VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[hakuna-matata]

It's more the guy who fooled his own daughter into being 'nice' and make her sign a paper where he basically owns her future, owns the key to her dorm, holds Derek accountable if Maya does anything 'out of line' and who visits her basically whenever he feels like it.

Granted, Maya could have read said paper, but, well, she's 18 and it's her father, so yeah...

And Patrick seems to believe what you mention.

Seems.

He just plays his game.

The whole scenario is just badly written because no bank with half a brain would let 18/19 co-sign for any loan. The father would have to be the co-signer because Maya doesn't even have two pennies to rub together. If Maya defaults on the loan or doesn't make payment, then the father is financially responsible as the co-signer. I can't wait for this stupid storyline to be over.

 

[cryhwks]

Add to that, that uhm... Maya is his friend? And we support our friends. Unless...


Even if the woman that you had feelings for rejected you, wouldn't those feelings push you to help her still? Even as a friend?

Hell no, not for me. I want to hang around with a woman I'm into, so I can see her be with other people? Oh this woman maybe likes to play games, and wants me to chase after her? Fuck that as well, if I'm having to chase you? That means you are actively running away from me. I want a woman, where we meet in the middle.

 

[shazba]

The whole scenario is just badly written because no bank with half a brain would let 18/19 co-sign for any loan. The father would have to be the co-signer because Maya doesn't even have two pennies to rub together. If Maya defaults on the loan or doesn't make payment, then the father is financially responsible as the co-signer. I can't wait for this stupid storyline to be over.

This has been discussed to death, but the false assumption here is that Maya knows what she's talking about. She doesn't. So specific details from her regarding a loan she doesn't understand are likely to be incorrect.

Just like Tybalt's blackmail of Jill was all bluff and no balls (while people insisted on debating the legality of it all, when it was as obvious as the dick between the mc's legs that he was bluffing to trick Jill), so too is Maya's dad bluffing.

As long as Maya believes in her dad's lies, he has control over her. She just needs some goof legal advice, from a pro bono lawyer, or pretty much anyone with half a brain, and she can stand up to her dad's bullshit.

And for the record, here's the back story to the loan (it's also possible that this is bullshit too...)

 

[Raziel_8]

It's more the guy who fooled his own daughter into being 'nice' and make her sign a paper where he basically owns her future, owns the key to her dorm, holds Derek accountable if Maya does anything 'out of line' and who visits her basically whenever he feels like it.

Well she could always do the most obvious thing and search for work, like others do.
If she wants a lot of money for less work, Lily has the answer for that, she could work in the Pink Rose.
But all she ever does is nothing, expecting others to solve her problem and that the money for tuition is given her for free.

And as hakuna-matata said, that whole scenario is just badly written, i can't wait for this to be over.

 

[Sasanid]

The whole scenario is just badly written because no bank with half a brain would let 18/19 co-sign for any loan. The father would have to be the co-signer because Maya doesn't even have two pennies to rub together. If Maya defaults on the loan or doesn't make payment, then the father is financially responsible as the co-signer. I can't wait for this stupid storyline to be over.

I think the scenario is alright, realism aside, Patrick is a control freak who hates what Maya represents, traumatized her since childhood with his bullshit 'religious' views and even worse til he learned she had a lesbian relationship. Perhaps he wants her well-being, but with his conditions, and he tortures her mentally and acts as a sadistic religious asshole cause that's what he is.

That's the plot, and I've seen worse.

BUT, that said, I can't wait til it's over too, Maya is stagnating because of this, Josy is stagnating because she's stuck with Maya (fortunately DPC finally developed her in the last 2 episodes, and she's clearly in love with the MC), the MC is kinda stagnating in the relationship cause, like they said a couple times, they don't know what they're doing, sure they're having fun and Maya finally had great moments in Ep8, but I went from her being my favorite til the 'This is my girlfriend, Josy' moment, to now being the one I care the less about cause she's 'meh'.

Something needs to happen with her, cause it's stretching, boring drama, and I can't wait til they go solo. OR they actually talk and wonder what the hell they're doing. I know I gave all my attention to Josy in my last 'throuple' playthrough...

 

[ffive]

Well she could always do the most obvious thing and search for work, like others do.

Oh please, like anyone in this game actually pays for their studies with the money they personally earned.

 

[shazba]

Oh please, like anyone in this game actually pays for their studies with the money they personally earned.

A lot of the HOTs do, they work very hard for their tuition money!

 

[ffive]

A lot of the HOTs do, they work very hard for their tuition money!

Pretty sure none of that money gets spent on tuition. It's not like they went to college knowing they'd be able to conveniently prostitute themselves, they must've secured their financing some way(s) beforehand.

Also, incidentally, "Maya never does anything about her situation" is pretty rich complaint considering all the simultaneous whining how she tases the MC as part of the very effort to do something about her situation :v

 

[Sasanid]

A lot of the HOTs do, they work very hard for their tuition money!

Heard they have an experimental band.

 

[Raziel_8]

Oh please, like anyone in this game actually pays for their studies with the money they personally earned.

Lily as example.

It's not like they went to college knowing they'd be able to conveniently prostitute themselves, they must've secured their financing some way(s) beforehand.

Well yeah, most likely a loan and they use the money to pay it back.
Or however the deal with Burke is handeled.

 

[ffive]

Lily as example.

What makes you think that? I wouldn't believe a single thing Lily herself says, it's pretty obvious she's way more than she lets on.

Well yeah, most likely a loan and they use the money to pay it back.
Or however the deal with Burke is handeled.

Well, no; again, they had no way of knowing they'd have such a way to pay back their loan. So they had to have some actual plans how to pay it, and reliable source of financing, in the first place.

 

[Sasanid]

What makes you think that? I wouldn't believe a single thing Lily herself says, it's pretty obvious she's way more than she lets on.

Lily is playing a dangerous game with dangerous people, with her trying to fleece drug dealers and all, but, what she said at the Pink Rose when she was alone with the MC, seems she just was genuine, she really is into him and seems she was just proud to get out of school without a loan to pay.

 

[Lumi6]

I've played the MayaJosy path but is there a solo Josy/solo Maya path? What would I have to do to focus on just one or the other?

 

[ChipLecsap]

I think the scenario is alright, realism aside, Patrick is a control freak who hates what Maya represents, traumatized her since childhood with his bullshit 'religious' views and even worse til he learned she had a lesbian relationship. Perhaps he wants her well-being, but with his conditions, and he tortures her mentally and acts as a sadistic religious asshole cause that's what he is.

That's the plot, and I've seen worse.

BUT, that said, I can't wait til it's over too, Maya is stagnating because of this, Josy is stagnating because she's stuck with Maya (fortunately DPC finally developed her in the last 2 episodes, and she's clearly in love with the MC), the MC is kinda stagnating in the relationship cause, like they said a couple times, they don't know what they're doing, sure they're having fun and Maya finally had great moments in Ep8, but I went from her being my favorite til the 'This is my girlfriend, Josy' moment, to now being the one I care the less about cause she's 'meh'.

Something needs to happen with her, cause it's stretching, boring drama, and I can't wait til they go solo. OR they actually talk and wonder what the hell they're doing. I know I gave all my attention to Josy in my last 'throuple' playthrough...

Can We stop demonizing of Patrick ? He just a concerned Father, who cares about his daughter well being, and dont want her to end up , someone like Quinn. Hard to argue with this one

 

[lipe2410]

I've played the MayaJosy path but is there a solo Josy/solo Maya path? What would I have to do to focus on just one or the other?

No solo path for them right now. Maybe the solo paths can happen down the line in MayaJosy branch and/or if you reject/was rejected by them in ep 4 but said to Derek that you still have fellings for one of them.

 

[Lostanddamned]

Can We stop demonizing of Patrick ? He just a concerned Father, who cares about his daughter well being, and dont want her to end up , someone like Quinn. Hard to argue with this one

There's a difference between being a concerned father and a despicable piece of shit.

 

[ffive]

what she said at the Pink Rose when she was alone with the MC, seems she just was genuine, she really is into him and seems she was just proud to get out of school without a loan to pay.

That's... really naive, i'd have to say. "Ohh she's into me so, unlike with anyone else, she'd only ever tell me the truth and be herself"... yeah.

Every single client Lily is stripping for and sucks off believes she's into them, too. That's part of her job, to make people think that.

 

[felicemastronzo]

She already paid that back in the first place by letting him stay over for days.

huh?

so if you host someone in your house then to repay you anything could happen to your guests?

anyway it has nothing to do with what we were talking about, the point was that Maya's hospitality constituted this bond of friendship that would survive anything including a rejection

for me it doesn't

yeah, they have a talk about it later and you can see she feels like shit about it
but if they end up in a throuple, I'd say she pays it off
even if they don't, MC can end up having sex with her so... eh, I'm good

Which are the premises of healthy friendship or less healthy simping....

It's more the guy who fooled his own daughter into being 'nice' and make her sign a paper where he basically owns her future, owns the key to her dorm, holds Derek accountable if Maya does anything 'out of line' and who visits her basically whenever he feels like it.

Granted, Maya could have read said paper, but, well, she's 18 and it's her father, so yeah...

And Patrick seems to believe what you mention.

Seems.

He just plays his game.

I'd say it's too late to imagine any twist on this, first of all because by now that lie has already been superseded by an even less credible new one

Maya is now in a single room, without roommates, and that's without even having had to physically change rooms

and it doesn't seem to me that Patrick showed any particular cunning in deceiving Maya, after preventing her from contacting Josy all summer he asked her to sign and she signed, he didn't use any Jedi tricks

This has been discussed to death, but the false assumption here is that Maya knows what she's talking about. She doesn't. So specific details from her regarding a loan she doesn't understand are likely to be incorrect.

Just like Tybalt's blackmail of Jill was all bluff and no balls (while people insisted on debating the legality of it all, when it was as obvious as the dick between the mc's legs that he was bluffing to trick Jill), so too is Maya's dad bluffing.

As long as Maya believes in her dad's lies, he has control over her. She just needs some goof legal advice, from a pro bono lawyer, or pretty much anyone with half a brain, and she can stand up to her dad's bullshit.

And for the record, here's the back story to the loan (it's also possible that this is bullshit too...)

awesome!!!

so is there any hope that they will still explain to us what Maya signed?!?!? maybe even with references of law and precedent!!!

better than d&g

 

[Lumi6]

No solo path for them right now. Maybe the solo paths can happen down the line in MayaJosy branch and/or if you reject/was rejected by them in ep 4 but said to Derek that you still have fellings for one of them.

Alright, how about the side girls? Are there certain affinities that only work on some of them? I'm interested in Jade and Nora but idk if it's possible to get both in one playthrough; I was searching the forum and saw a few mentions of CHICK for Nora and DIK for Jade.

 

[ChipLecsap]

There's a difference between being a concerned father and a despicable piece of shit.

We, don't really see him being a piece of shit did we. He dont want her daughter to be gay, big deal.
He dont want her daughter to dress like a slut, oh, the evil of him.
Derek seem to have no problem with him, in fact as a Brother he doesn't seem to supportive of Maya against their father , and I would love to see Derek face, when Maya participate in a cum-petition