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Mayahd

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You know the funny part is, Bega81 is actually Kink shaming here.
He just hides it under the Guise of "Realism".
Its all good, sometimes we all get a little frustrated when a cool art set dosent go the way we hoped or dosent have what we like kink wise. I'm just happy that belethor dosent go to the extreme with thier sets as so many seem to do now. Its also very cool that they chat here as well many creators would hate this place, so I hope they continue to do what appeals to them rather then go to extremes. Anyway always fun chatting with members, cheers.
PS: Just incase Belethor reads this just puting it out there a set with Jen from Primal on the PS2 would be neat, its got a gargyle sidekick, vampires and demons. Hell I recommend it as game its an underated PS2 gem, but you know just saying...
 
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Belethor's Smut Thanks for your kind and reasonable response. :giggle:

I appreciate your openness to receiving feedback and criticism.

Gotta agree on the "detail" point as well, bulges can't really be categorized as that, my mistake.
However I disagree bulges aren't a matter of mere "personal taste", they are much more than that.
Stomach bulges are a logical consequence to the dualities of fiction/reality and action/reaction.
Understanding and implementing those dualities/concepts play a critical role in creating truly great porn and/or cinema in general.

I do however stand by what I pointed out in the Glock 9mm vs the Barrett M82 50cal example.
I still feel like they are absolutely mandatory in sets that include such absolutely humongous dick models.
To me their exclusion completely undermines the reasons for using such ridiculously sized dicks in the first place.
The reasons not only being that they obviously look bigger and are easier for the viewer to locate, but especially because they impact the whole scene.
An unreasonable large dick has and impact on a multitude of things, it basically forces you as an artist to make sure everything changes accordingly.
Everything needs to fit to not look out of order or absurd, to the point where it's not enjoyable anymore.
As a 3dx-artist you're walking a fine line between fiction and reality.
Theoretically you can do whatever you'd like (make the dicks as big as trees and the boobs as huge as water melons) but if you do that it'll turn out to be grotesque.
You need to walk the line.
Even the wildest fiction still needs to be based on something that's real, there always needs to be a foundation of reason so to speak.
You for example, can amplify the stretch-ability of the vagina to a certain extend.
You can introduce various dick shapes belonging to various fantasy creatures.
However just like those creatures, who usually posse some form of sensory ability, mostly in the form of some sort of eyes, ears and noses or legs and skin, there are limits as to how far you can deviate from reality.

While your female models vagina might be unnaturally "stretchy" it still remains to be just that, a vagina.
It should also behave like one.
A giant for example, is still a humanoid creature.
It might have increased strength, reach etc., compared to other humanoid monsters but it still has 2 hand, 2 legs and vertebras, otherwise it couldn't move at all.
I'm assuming that you get the point.

In case of Ciri's vagina that'd mean that even though it's incredibly stretchy it still needs to be warmed up and most importantly, actually STRETCHED.
Warming up would take some time which means that there's no way that the monster could just "stick it in" after Ciri gave him a quick blowjob.
Ciri would need to work her way up to that size which is why this specific scene would require a whole different setting.
Something like a gangbang where Ciri has to work her way up, size by size, with different monsters.

Said stretching would however ultimately and consequently, as you stretch the vagina further and further, to fully accommodate such a giant cock, lead to what's called a tummy/stomach bulge.
As I've already said, this also happens IRL (mostly with extreme anal play though).
The vagina does what it's made to do (it stretches) just like human skin, you simply raise both organs capability by a bit.
This is what "walking the line" between fiction and reality means.
But by instead simply introducing an endless black whole at the entrance of Ciri's vagina you're not walking one.
Instead you're actually completely out of it!

There's obviously way more to this, like Ciri's emotional/physical reaction to the size and penetration itself.
If Ciri acts like taking a 12 foot dong is normal it's once again ruined for the simple fact that it's simply not.
That's like watching Steph Curry hit a buzzer beating half court shot at 1 sec game-time left, just to get absolutely 0 reaction from the crowd. It simply doesn't add up.

It's just like a very grate movie director (can't recall his name right now) once said.
"If it comes to the actor hitting the stuntman with his sword, most people think that the actors strike is what's most important.
However the stuntman's reaction to said strike is actually just as important."
Get it?
If the stuntman doesn't react accordingly the shot will be totally off no matter how well the actors strike was acted out.
This also applies to 3dx, be it animations or render sets.

People will obviously look at this and say "wdym dude it's just porn, it's not that deep" or "dafuq are you writing all this for" etc.

However to someone who wants to create the best possible version of erotic cinema/art it does matter quite a bit.
I'd even go as far to say that understand this concept is crucial to delivering top quality erotic cinema/art.
When I was referring to a "lack of detail" in your sets, that's part of what I meant with it btw.

I've also taken a look at the set in which you've reportedly included tummy bulges "Witchers Contract The Drunken Troll" and I gotta say, looking at the trolls dick, the bulge is definitely way too subtle, it's honestly barely noticeable.
Just like you I'm surprised that people gave you negative feedback regarding it, very surprised actually.
I do gotta say, bulges have to be done well to work, if they're done lazily or poorly they definitely take away from the experience or rather, lead to an unwanted, grotesque outcome.

You could just make 2 different versions, one with and one without tummy bulges. I know it's extra work but I believe you'd benefit from it artistically + also gain a bunch of new subscribers. Also working on all the other stuff I've mentioned will obviously also help a ton. (y)


Well it's time, my supervisor is telling me to get off the pc.
Time for my meds + the padded cell again... :KEK:


Kind regards my dude!!!(y):giggle:


TLDR: Making great, high quality porn is a lot more nuanced than people think it is.
It's about the dualities of fiction/reality and action/reaction.
Bulges are less of a fetish and more of a logical consequence of the above mentioned dualities.
To clarify, I meant the bulges in the latest Witcher set where the troll, Bark, is finishing off inside Ciri. You can see that she's holding on to her stomach. That's the section I was referring to.

In relation to some of your other points. I get what you mean, but I think you're reading a bit too much into my smut. When I'm making something I want it to look good - that's my main goal first and foremost. I like to think that my smut is more...hmm...what's the word - sophisticated or erotic than some others as I put a lot of time and effort into crafting a story and atmosphere to a set than just straight up sex. So I try to give my stuff a cinematic feel to it.

It's almost like a video game. We accept things that aren't possible IRL for the sake of fun and gameplay. Like easier movement, health that regenerates etc. Even in realistic games there are things that aren't accurate to real life for the sake of gameplay. I se my smut as similar to that. I try to make look realistic, but I'll bend the rulesslightly for better smut.

At the end of the day, this isn't real life, therefore I don't have to abide by real life rules. Nothing I make is crazy extreme as that's not my style. So, yes, in real life, Ciri would not be able to take the Fiend. But it's not real life so we can use our imagination to fill in the parts of the image I'm not showing.

On a technical side, yes I made the Fiend's schlong too big. So to counter act that I use creative poses and camera angles to hide the clipping and let viewers fill in the blanks with their own minds. That was why I added the part with Bark to give me the oppotunity to do some different poses that were not possible with the Fiend.

Cheers,

Belethor
 
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Its all good, sometimes we all get a little frustrated when a cool art set dosent go the way we hoped or dosent have what we like kink wise. I'm just happy that belethor dosent go to the extreme with thier sets as so many seem to do now. Its also very cool that they chat here as well many creators would hate this place, so I hope they continue to do what appeals to them rather then go to extremes. Anyway always fun chatting with members, cheers.
PS: Just incase Belethor reads this just puting it out there a set with Jen from Primal on the PS2 would be neat, its got a gargyle sidekick, vampires and demons. Hell I recommend it as game its an underated PS2 gem, but you know just saying...
Thanks man. I don't mind this place as people are pretty cool about sharing my stuff. As in you don't share a set the day that I release it. It's usually a few months between updates here, which I can live with. At the end of the day, everything gets leaked on the internet. You've gotta accept that and a lot of artists are too protective of their stuff imo.

If someone's willing to wait 2 or 3 months for an update here, they'd never sub to me anyway. In an ideal world, no one would share anything anywhere. But the world isn't ideal and we all have to adapt to it.

I'll be homest with you boss. I have no idea who that character is and as far as I'm aware, there's no model out for her. At least nothing I've seen.
 

Mayahd

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Thanks man. I don't mind this place as people are pretty cool about sharing my stuff. As in you don't share a set the day that I release it. It's usually a few months between updates here, which I can live with. At the end of the day, everything gets leaked on the internet. You've gotta accept that and a lot of artists are too protective of their stuff imo.

If someone's willing to wait 2 or 3 months for an update here, they'd never sub to me anyway. In an ideal world, no one would share anything anywhere. But the world isn't ideal and we all have to adapt to it.

I'll be homest with you boss. I have no idea who that character is and as far as I'm aware, there's no model out for her. At least nothing I've seen.
Yeah I figured a model probably dosent exist given the age of the game. Heres a few pics of her, the games a lot of fun and its up on the PSN store as a classic ps2 game so if nothing else maybe a few will try the game lol. Fingers crossed maybe stellar blades eve becomes a set one day. Regards
MayaHD
 

_dudu_

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Good day, I have couple of things to say noone cares about :KEK:
When I'm making something I want it to look good - that's my main goal first and foremost. I like to think that my smut is more...hmm...what's the word - sophisticated or erotic than some others as I put a lot of time and effort into crafting a story and atmosphere to a set than just straight up sex. So I try to give my stuff a cinematic feel to it.
I'd you do great job, one of my favourite sets is Radio Silence for those reasons, even though it's "boring" humanoid and character of Alyx from Half-Life, to whom I have no relationship. I thing you are very good at what you're doing, if not great. (y)
It's almost like a video game. We accept things that aren't possible IRL for the sake of fun and gameplay. Like easier movement, health that regenerates etc. Even in realistic games there are things that aren't accurate to real life for the sake of gameplay. I se my smut as similar to that. I try to make look realistic, but I'll bend the rulesslightly for better smut.
This is balanced and logical approach. But the next part...
At the end of the day, this isn't real life, therefore I don't have to abide by real life rules. Nothing I make is crazy extreme as that's not my style. So, yes, in real life, Ciri would not be able to take the Fiend. But it's not real life so we can use our imagination to fill in the parts of the image I'm not showing.
This (here Ciri-Fiend, but applies to other works) is unreal times two to begin with. It isn't real life plus these creatures/monsters are enemies, who attack/kill you, not make love with characters. That doesn't happen in porn, everyone accepts and understands that (to be fair, it not being rape is good by me, but also unreal :unsure:).

Problem is: you didn't abide by "real life rules" at all (what I wrote above + giant shlong), which doesn't break "realism", only to break "realism" to kinda soften it by following "the rules".

Why use creatures bigger than human and give them enormous cocks, only to then have no impact? Pointless. Use bigger "enemies" and have them pack 6 inches...? :LUL:
Do what you want do to do. With the Witcher it's easy, there are monsters of almost all sizes. But damn, if you want have elephant schlong time to time, please use some bulges. I guess you fans would get over it; might lose some, sure, but also gain some.
Have a nice day, effing off now. :geek:
 
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Problem is: you didn't abide by "real life rules" at all (what I wrote above + giant shlong), which doesn't break "realism", only to break "realism" to kinda soften it by following "the rules".

Why use creatures bigger than human and give them enormous cocks, only to then have no impact? Pointless. Use bigger "enemies" and have them pack 6 inches...? :LUL:
Do what you want do to do. With the Witcher it's easy, there are monsters of almost all sizes. But damn, if you want have elephant schlong time to time, please use some bulges. I guess you fans would get over it; might lose some, sure, but also gain some.
Have a nice day, effing off now. :geek:
Wait a second, could it be that I'm perhaps not alone?! :PogChamp:
Greetings fellow tummy bulge enjoyer. :D

As for what you've pointed out, I couldn't agree more.

What's the point of having blue whale sized dick models if they change absolutely nothing when being used compared to averagely sized dicks?
Like sure, they look cool in the intro/early phases of the set but during the hardcore parts they just vanish.

In these kinds of sets the "huge dick"-fetish is literally one of the main selling points.
So why would you hide said selling point from the audience for the majority of the set?!
That's another advantage of tummy bulges, they make it so the huge dick is always visible so you maximize "huge dick"-fetish-time exposure.
Sounds absolutely ridiculous, but think about it! It's true!

But as _dudu_ already pointed out Belethor's Smut you can obviously do whatever you want, it's your 3dx-art after all. (y)

That being said, why not just switch out the dick model to a normal one after the intro?
That would save you quite some effort of hiding the clipping/posing etc.
After all it seems like that to you and your supporters the dick size only matters during the intro scenes. :unsure:
 

satoharn

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Hey Belethor's Smut, I remember you asking for ideas sometime before, here is an area not explored enough by anyone:

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Annette's lab adventures.

You could use medical processes like flexibility tests, enema or sperm extraction in naughty ways, maybe some while recording like upper picture or handicams:

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You could use medical or "medical" outfits like nurse outfit or maskini:

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Plus medical tools like stethoscope or seats that used to check sexual organs or on birth.

You could make other characters get captured:

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Maybe more than one captured by her at the same time. Or herself by her husband. You could even use Sherry if you feel like it. (I'm sure there are pictures of her on the internet due to the infamous rule but not gonna use any here to avoid getting banned.)

All could be done on lab or some as "on the field" tests. It allows everything from eggs to bondage too:

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Captured characters being bound all the time is a lot less fun though.

You don't have to make anything reasonable lore-wise with dialogs or something, not worth your effort thinking too much about it, just throw it away.

And with tons of different enemies like zombies, dogs, lickers, Tyrant, Nemesis, those egg planting giant bugs, Dimitrescu and the other three ladies...

...endless possibility. Love your work by the way.
 
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lookyout

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Hey Belethor's Smut, I remember you asking for ideas sometime before, here is an area not explored enough by anyone:

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Annette's lab adventures.

You could use medical processes like flexibility tests, enema or sperm extraction in naughty ways, maybe some while recording like upper picture or handicams:

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You could use medical or "medical" outfits like nurse outfit or maskini:

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Plus medical tools like stethoscope or seats that used to check sexual organs or on birth.

You could make other characters get captured:

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Maybe more than one captured by her at the same time. Or herself by her husband. You could even use Sherry if you feel like it. (I'm sure there are pictures of her on the internet due to the infamous rule but not gonna use any here to avoid getting banned.)

All could be done on lab or some as "on the field" tests. It allows everything from eggs to bondage too:

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Captured characters being bound all the time is a lot less fun though.

You don't have to make anything reasonable lore-wise with dialogs or something, not worth your effort thinking too much about it, just throw it away.

And with tons of different enemies like zombies, dogs, lickers, Tyrant, Nemesis, those egg planting giant bugs, Dimitrescu and the other three ladies...

...endless possibility. Love your work by the way.
I like this idea (I believe bluelight did something similar with annette and MrX).
Do you know the artist for the first annette image and the two nurse images?
 

DJTEMPAH

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Maybe. Which ones are we talking about?
I think it's the last 2 witcher sets one was called sleeping giant they did and the last mass effect set which was a part one. Also I think there was a resident evil one with Ashley but I can't remember. If your able to share any of these I would be entirely grateful.
 
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