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Bega81Froa

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Is anybody else extremely annoyed by the fact that this artist refuses to add tummy bulges or is it just me?

He's charging a minimum of $8 a month, I feel like such details should definitely be included when charging this much.

I get that some dislike tummy bulges + they definitely don't always make sense but come on...

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Belethor's Smut How can you use such ridiculously sized dick-models and then not make the extra effort of including stomach bulges? :WutFace: :WaitWhat:
This thing is bigger than her torso?! Like? Are you kidding me???

This guy's work is definitely solid, don't get me wrong but his lack of attention to detail is the main reason I'll probably never be supporting him.

Artists like "Pleasuree3DX" should definitely be the new benchmark when it comes to over all quantity/quality and attention to detail.
It's a shame that most 3dx-Render artist simply refuse to evolve. :cautious:
 
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Is anybody else extremely annoyed by the fact that this artist refuses to add tummy bulges or is it just me?

He's charging a minimum of $8 a month, I feel like such details should definitely be included when charging this much.

I get that some dislike tummy bulges + they definitely don't always make sense but come on...

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Belethor's Smut How can you use such ridiculously sized dick-models and then not make the extra effort of including stomach bulges? :WutFace: :WaitWhat:
This thing is bigger than her torso?! Like? Are you kidding me???

This guy's work is definitely solid, don't get me wrong but his lack of attention to detail is the main reason I'll probably never be supporting him.

Artists like "Pleasuree3DX" should definitely be the new benchmark when it comes to over all quantity/quality and attention to detail.
It's a shame that most 3dx-Render artist simply refuse to evolve. :cautious:
It's only you.
 

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Is anybody else extremely annoyed by the fact that this artist refuses to add tummy bulges or is it just me?

He's charging a minimum of $8 a month, I feel like such details should definitely be included when charging this much.

I get that some dislike tummy bulges + they definitely don't always make sense but come on...

View attachment 4281004

Belethor's Smut How can you use such ridiculously sized dick-models and then not make the extra effort of including stomach bulges? :WutFace: :WaitWhat:
This thing is bigger than her torso?! Like? Are you kidding me???

This guy's work is definitely solid, don't get me wrong but his lack of attention to detail is the main reason I'll probably never be supporting him.

Artists like "Pleasuree3DX" should definitely be the new benchmark when it comes to over all quantity/quality and attention to detail.
It's a shame that most 3dx-Render artist simply refuse to evolve. :cautious:
Ciri has time/space travel magic, that giant cock its just teleported away inside her pussy. Please learn Witcher lore :LOL:
 

Mayahd

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Is anybody else extremely annoyed by the fact that this artist refuses to add tummy bulges or is it just me?

He's charging a minimum of $8 a month, I feel like such details should definitely be included when charging this much.

I get that some dislike tummy bulges + they definitely don't always make sense but come on...

View attachment 4281004

Belethor's Smut How can you use such ridiculously sized dick-models and then not make the extra effort of including stomach bulges? :WutFace: :WaitWhat:
This thing is bigger than her torso?! Like? Are you kidding me???

This guy's work is definitely solid, don't get me wrong but his lack of attention to detail is the main reason I'll probably never be supporting him.

Artists like "Pleasuree3DX" should definitely be the new benchmark when it comes to over all quantity/quality and attention to detail.
It's a shame that most 3dx-Render artist simply refuse to evolve. :cautious:
I hate bulge or stomach streching stuff. Go to far and it boders on toture IMO, so I'm happy they dont do it.
 

Bega81Froa

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I hate bulge or stomach streching stuff. Go to far and it boders on toture IMO, so I'm happy they dont do it.
Because putting a blue-whale sized dick with spikes into a vagina isn't "bordering torture" and/or "going to far"??? :WaitWhat::WaitWhat::WaitWhat:

Stomach bulges/distention is actually quite normal if it comes to sexual acts involving super large dicks (mostly toys).
It happens mostly during anal penetration but can definitely also happen during vaginal penetration.

I guess you simply prefer your female 3d-models to have a black hole inside their vagina/ass. :unsure:

Why even make use of such ridiculously sized dicks then though?
If there's no consequence to using them, if they don't change anything as soon as they enter the vagina why not use a normal dick then?
That literally doesn't make any sense.

It's like playing a shooter and having the option between a Glock 9mm and a Barrett M82 50cal but then, when you shoot at enemies both guns have the exact same impact, recoil, sound and deal the same dmg.
Then why is there a 50cal in the first place?!
Just to look cool?
Come on man, there's gotta be continuity, things gotta make some sort of sense.
Please don't try to argue "it's porn it doesn't need to make sense" that's complete BS and not an argument at all.

That being said, he could easily just make 2 versions, one with and one without bulges like many 3dx-render artist do nowadays...
 
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Is anybody else extremely annoyed by the fact that this artist refuses to add tummy bulges or is it just me?

He's charging a minimum of $8 a month, I feel like such details should definitely be included when charging this much.

I get that some dislike tummy bulges + they definitely don't always make sense but come on...

View attachment 4281004

Belethor's Smut How can you use such ridiculously sized dick-models and then not make the extra effort of including stomach bulges? :WutFace: :WaitWhat:
This thing is bigger than her torso?! Like? Are you kidding me???

This guy's work is definitely solid, don't get me wrong but his lack of attention to detail is the main reason I'll probably never be supporting him.

Artists like "Pleasuree3DX" should definitely be the new benchmark when it comes to over all quantity/quality and attention to detail.
It's a shame that most 3dx-Render artist simply refuse to evolve. :cautious:
Hey boss. I appreciate the feedback. Even though you were disappointed, I appreciate it nonetheless.

In regards to bulges. I’m personally not a fan of them myself. However I did include some in this set with the Troll. But I got A LOT of criticism for including a bit. I was surprised myself at the amount of people who didn’t like it

I disagree personally about your argument in relation to lack of detail. I think bulges are a personal taste so if someone doesn’t include it, I wouldn't see it as a lack of attention but an artistic decision. But, regardless of that, I appreciate you taking the time to write this out and offer feedback.

Cheers,
Belethor
 

simonmcKEY

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I like stomach bulge effect when it is subtle - or as far subtle as it can be with a metre long dick as wide as her body is. What I hate is when somebody does something that some people are calling Sparrow insertion, after that artist who allways draws them. What is even more important is when somebody post an update here.
 

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I like stomach bulge effect when it is subtle - or as far subtle as it can be with a metre long dick as wide as her body is. What I hate is when somebody does something that some people are calling Sparrow insertion, after that artist who allways draws them. What is even more important is when somebody post an update here.
AMEN!
 

Bega81Froa

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Hey boss. I appreciate the feedback. Even though you were disappointed, I appreciate it nonetheless.

In regards to bulges. I’m personally not a fan of them myself. However I did include some in this set with the Troll. But I got A LOT of criticism for including a bit. I was surprised myself at the amount of people who didn’t like it

I disagree personally about your argument in relation to lack of detail. I think bulges are a personal taste so if someone doesn’t include it, I wouldn't see it as a lack of attention but an artistic decision. But, regardless of that, I appreciate you taking the time to write this out and offer feedback.

Cheers,
Belethor
Belethor's Smut Thanks for your kind and reasonable response. :giggle:

I appreciate your openness to receiving feedback and criticism.

Gotta agree on the "detail" point as well, bulges can't really be categorized as that, my mistake.
However I disagree bulges aren't a matter of mere "personal taste", they are much more than that.
Stomach bulges are a logical consequence to the dualities of fiction/reality and action/reaction.
Understanding and implementing those dualities/concepts play a critical role in creating truly great porn and/or cinema in general.

I do however stand by what I pointed out in the Glock 9mm vs the Barrett M82 50cal example.
I still feel like they are absolutely mandatory in sets that include such absolutely humongous dick models.
To me their exclusion completely undermines the reasons for using such ridiculously sized dicks in the first place.
The reasons not only being that they obviously look bigger and are easier for the viewer to locate, but especially because they impact the whole scene.
An unreasonable large dick has and impact on a multitude of things, it basically forces you as an artist to make sure everything changes accordingly.
Everything needs to fit to not look out of order or absurd, to the point where it's not enjoyable anymore.
As a 3dx-artist you're walking a fine line between fiction and reality.
Theoretically you can do whatever you'd like (make the dicks as big as trees and the boobs as huge as water melons) but if you do that it'll turn out to be grotesque.
You need to walk the line.
Even the wildest fiction still needs to be based on something that's real, there always needs to be a foundation of reason so to speak.
You for example, can amplify the stretch-ability of the vagina to a certain extend.
You can introduce various dick shapes belonging to various fantasy creatures.
However just like those creatures, who usually posse some form of sensory ability, mostly in the form of some sort of eyes, ears and noses or legs and skin, there are limits as to how far you can deviate from reality.

While your female models vagina might be unnaturally "stretchy" it still remains to be just that, a vagina.
It should also behave like one.
A giant for example, is still a humanoid creature.
It might have increased strength, reach etc., compared to other humanoid monsters but it still has 2 hand, 2 legs and vertebras, otherwise it couldn't move at all.
I'm assuming that you get the point.

In case of Ciri's vagina that'd mean that even though it's incredibly stretchy it still needs to be warmed up and most importantly, actually STRETCHED.
Warming up would take some time which means that there's no way that the monster could just "stick it in" after Ciri gave him a quick blowjob.
Ciri would need to work her way up to that size which is why this specific scene would require a whole different setting.
Something like a gangbang where Ciri has to work her way up, size by size, with different monsters.

Said stretching would however ultimately and consequently, as you stretch the vagina further and further, to fully accommodate such a giant cock, lead to what's called a tummy/stomach bulge.
As I've already said, this also happens IRL (mostly with extreme anal play though).
The vagina does what it's made to do (it stretches) just like human skin, you simply raise both organs capability by a bit.
This is what "walking the line" between fiction and reality means.
But by instead simply introducing an endless black whole at the entrance of Ciri's vagina you're not walking one.
Instead you're actually completely out of it!

There's obviously way more to this, like Ciri's emotional/physical reaction to the size and penetration itself.
If Ciri acts like taking a 12 foot dong is normal it's once again ruined for the simple fact that it's simply not.
That's like watching Steph Curry hit a buzzer beating half court shot at 1 sec game-time left, just to get absolutely 0 reaction from the crowd. It simply doesn't add up.

It's just like a very grate movie director (can't recall his name right now) once said.
"If it comes to the actor hitting the stuntman with his sword, most people think that the actors strike is what's most important.
However the stuntman's reaction to said strike is actually just as important."
Get it?
If the stuntman doesn't react accordingly the shot will be totally off no matter how well the actors strike was acted out.
This also applies to 3dx, be it animations or render sets.

People will obviously look at this and say "wdym dude it's just porn, it's not that deep" or "dafuq are you writing all this for" etc.

However to someone who wants to create the best possible version of erotic cinema/art it does matter quite a bit.
I'd even go as far to say that understand this concept is crucial to delivering top quality erotic cinema/art.
When I was referring to a "lack of detail" in your sets, that's part of what I meant with it btw.

I've also taken a look at the set in which you've reportedly included tummy bulges "Witchers Contract The Drunken Troll" and I gotta say, looking at the trolls dick, the bulge is definitely way too subtle, it's honestly barely noticeable.
Just like you I'm surprised that people gave you negative feedback regarding it, very surprised actually.
I do gotta say, bulges have to be done well to work, if they're done lazily or poorly they definitely take away from the experience or rather, lead to an unwanted, grotesque outcome.

You could just make 2 different versions, one with and one without tummy bulges. I know it's extra work but I believe you'd benefit from it artistically + also gain a bunch of new subscribers. Also working on all the other stuff I've mentioned will obviously also help a ton. (y)


Well it's time, my supervisor is telling me to get off the pc.
Time for my meds + the padded cell again... :KEK:


Kind regards my dude!!!(y):giggle:


TLDR: Making great, high quality porn is a lot more nuanced than people think it is.
It's about the dualities of fiction/reality and action/reaction.
Bulges are less of a fetish and more of a logical consequence of the above mentioned dualities.
 
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luCk3r123

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Belethor's Smut Thanks for your kind and reasonable response. :giggle:

I appreciate your openness to feedback and criticism.
I respect your personal taste and if bulges are not your thing, it's obviously your right not to include them.

Gotta agree on the "detail" point as well, bulges can't really be categorized as that, my mistake.
I do however stand by what I pointed out in the Glock 9mm vs the Barrett M82 50cal example.
I still feel like they are absolutely mandatory in sets that include such absolutely humongous dick models.
To me their exclusion completely undermines the reasons for using such ridiculously sized dicks in the first place.
The reasons not only being that they obviously look bigger and are easier for the viewer to locate, but especially because they impact the whole scene.
An unreasonable large dick has and impact on a multitude of things, it basically forces you as an artist to make sure everything changes accordingly.
Everything needs to fit to not look out of order or absurd, to the point where it's not enjoyable anymore.
As a 3dx-artist you're walking a fine line between fiction and reality.
Theoretically you can do whatever you'd like (make the dicks as big as trees and the boobs as huge as water melons) but if you do that it'll turn out to be grotesque.
You need to walk the line.
Even the wildest fiction still needs to be based on something that's real, there always needs to be a foundation of reason so to speak.
You for example, can amplify the stretch-ability of the vagina to a certain extend.
You can introduce various dick shapes belonging to various fantasy creatures.
However just like those creatures, who usually posse some form of sensory ability, mostly in the form of some sort of eyes, ears and noses or legs and skin, there are limits as to how far you can deviate from reality.

While your female models vagina might be unnaturally "stretchy" it still remains to be just that, a vagina.
It should also behave like one.
A giant for example, is still a humanoid creature.
It might have increased strength, reach etc., compared to other humanoid monsters but it still has 2 hand, 2 legs and vertebras, otherwise it couldn't move at all.
I'm assuming that you get the point.

In case of Ciri's vagina that'd mean that even though it's incredibly stretchy it still needs to be warmed up and most importantly, actually STRETCHED.
Warming up would take some time which means that there's no way that the monster could just "stick it in" after Ciri gave him a quick blowjob.
Ciri would need to work her way up to that size which is why this specific scene would require a whole different setting.
Something like a gangbang where Ciri has to work her way up, size by size, with different monsters.

Said stretching would however ultimately and consequently, as you stretch the vagina further and further, to fully accommodate such a giant cock, lead to what's called a tummy/stomach bulge.
As I've already said, this also happens IRL (mostly with extreme anal play though).
The vagina does what it's made to do (it stretches) just like human skin, you simply raise both organs capability by a bit.
This is what "walking the line" between fiction and reality means.
But by instead simply introducing an endless black whole at the entrance of Ciri's vagina you're not walking one.
Instead you're actually completely out of it!

There's obviously way more to this, like Ciri's emotional/physical reaction to the size and penetration itself.
If Ciri acts like taking a 12 foot dong is normal it's once again ruined for the simple fact that it's simply not.
That's like watching Steph Curry hit a buzzer beating half court shot at 1 sec game-time left, just to get absolutely 0 reaction from the crowd. It simply doesn't add up.

It's just like a very grate movie director (can't recall his name right now) once said.
"If it comes to the actor hitting the stuntman with his sword, most people think that the actors strike is what's most important.
However the stuntman's reaction to said strike is actually just as important."
Get it?
If the stuntman doesn't react accordingly the shot will be totally off no matter how well the actors strike was acted out.
This also applies to 3dx, be it animations or render sets.

People will obviously look at this and say "wdym dude it's just porn, it's not that deep" or "dafuq are you writing all this for" etc.

However to someone who wants to create the best possible version of erotic cinema/art it does matter quite a bit.
I'd even go as far to say that understand this concept is crucial to delivering top quality erotic cinema/art.
When I was referring to a "lack of detail" in your sets, that's part of what I meant with it btw.

I've also taken a look at the set in which you've reportedly included tummy bulges "Witchers Contract The Drunken Troll" and I gotta say, looking at the trolls dick, the bulge is definitely way too subtle, it's honestly barely noticeable.
Just like you I'm surprised that people gave you negative feedback regarding it, very surprised actually.
I do gotta say, bulges have to be done well to work, if they're done lazily or poorly they definitely take away from the experience or rather, lead to an unwanted, grotesque outcome.


TLDR: You could just make 2 different versions, one with and one without tummy bulges. I know it's extra work but I believe you'd benefit from it artistically + also gain a bunch of new subscribers. Also working on all the other stuff I've mentioned will obviously also help a ton. (y)


Well it's time, my supervisor is telling me to get off the pc.
Time for my meds + the padded cell again... :KEK:

Kind regards my dude!!!(y):giggle:
Anyone got a TLDR for this guys book ?
 

Bega81Froa

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Anyone got a TLDR for this guys book ?
TLDR: Making great, high quality porn is a lot more nuanced than people think it is.
It's about the dualities of fiction/reality and action/reaction.
Bulges are less of a fetish and more of a logical consequence of the above mentioned dualities.

You're welcome my dude! :giggle: (y)
 
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Hey boss. I appreciate the feedback. Even though you were disappointed, I appreciate it nonetheless.

In regards to bulges. I’m personally not a fan of them myself. However I did include some in this set with the Troll. But I got A LOT of criticism for including a bit. I was surprised myself at the amount of people who didn’t like it

I disagree personally about your argument in relation to lack of detail. I think bulges are a personal taste so if someone doesn’t include it, I wouldn't see it as a lack of attention but an artistic decision. But, regardless of that, I appreciate you taking the time to write this out and offer feedback.

Cheers,
Belethor
Bulges with troll? One might think that when there is Fiend with dick almost as big as her whole torso, then, after Ciri WORKS HARD for it, she might be able to stretch herself enough for it, with little magic help (And his precum, serving as lube. Lots of lube).
I like concept someone wrote, that Ciri would need work on in, and her psychological reaction to fucking herself on such oversized dick☺
However, I still don't know how it will look like for troll to scare Fiend away. Maybe one day I will find out, when this amazing set drops in to public space...
 
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Bulges with troll? One might think that when there is Fiend with dick almost as big as her whole torso, then, after Ciri WORKS HARD for it, she might be able to stretch herself enough for it, with little magic help (And his precum, serving as lube. Lots of lube).
I like concept someone wrote, that Ciri would need work on in, and her psychological reaction to fucking herself on such oversized dick☺
However, I still don't know how it will look like for troll to scare Fiend away. Maybe one day I will find out, when this amazing set drops in to public space...
True logic with the fiend was that after it had finished its business with Ciri, it was in a weakened state hence why a rock troll could scare it off in that brief moment
 
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Mayahd

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Because putting a blue-whale sized dick with spikes into a vagina isn't "bordering torture" and/or "going to far"??? :WaitWhat::WaitWhat::WaitWhat:

Stomach bulges/distention is actually quite normal if it comes to sexual acts involving super large dicks (mostly toys).
It happens mostly during anal penetration but can definitely also happen during vaginal penetration.

I guess you simply prefer your female 3d-models to have a black hole inside their vagina/ass. :unsure:

Why even make use of such ridiculously sized dicks then though?
If there's no consequence to using them, if they don't change anything as soon as they enter the vagina why not use a normal dick then?
That literally doesn't make any sense.

It's like playing a shooter and having the option between a Glock 9mm and a Barrett M82 50cal but then, when you shoot at enemies both guns have the exact same impact, recoil, sound and deal the same dmg.
Then why is there a 50cal in the first place?!
Just to look cool?
Come on man, there's gotta be continuity, things gotta make some sort of sense.
Please don't try to argue "it's porn it doesn't need to make sense" that's complete BS and not an argument at all.

That being said, he could easily just make 2 versions, one with and one without bulges like many 3dx-render artist do nowadays...
I'm not kink shaming here, just not my thing and it was just IMO. Dont personaly need the reality of what a super dick would do because taken to its logical conclusion it would kill the reciver painfully, it just looks like torture to me. Again not kink shaming anyone, Belethors art is great and they do characters that others dont, really hoping they do a Stellar blade someday or Jen from the PS2 game Primal but I think that one my be to obscure lol I'm personally happy they havent drifted into the more intense logic of whats going on as it would just lead it to looking rapey, all just my opinion. Thanks for the debate

Edit: I quoted twice
 
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Reaper9988

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I'm not kink shaming here, just not my thing and it was just IMO. Dont personaly need the reality of what a super dick would do because taken to its logical conclusion it would kill the reciver painfully, it just looks like torture to me. Again not kink shaming anyone, Belethors art is great and they do characters that others dont, really hoping they do a Stellar blade someday or Jen from the PS2 game Primal but I think that one my be to obscure lol I'm personally happy they havent drifted into the more intense logic of whats going on as it would just lead it to looking rapey, all just my opinion. Thanks for the debate

Edit: I quoted twice
You know the funny part is, Bega81 is actually Kink shaming here.
He just hides it under the Guise of "Realism".
 
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