VN Ren'Py Beyond Tomorrow [Ch.2] [Dream Games]

[jhonatanw]

"Hold me in the darkness, even when it's hard with you."

 

[Den1mo]

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So... Probably not surprising to anyone, but I'm still knee-deep in Ch1. Even though I've got the creation process done, there were still a few things that needed sorting out

• Some animations are still sitting in the render queue
• I keep going through the dialogues over and over. Sometimes I tweak something, rewrite, remove, or add. It's taking up most of my attention
• I did some post-work again on certain scenes, especially the very first ones. I found a few mistakes where, in some cases, I had to render some images again
• The longest part: still waiting on some artists and their music. There are only a few of them, but it's not the worst

I'll see how I am time-wise because I'm already quite behind, but I'd like there to be one more new scene at the beginning of Ch1 before the 'intro cinematic' starts. Besides that, everything's done, just gotta wait. Rendering speed really complicates things



Even though I'm still in Ch1, Ch2 is definitely not lagging behind. A big part of the chapter is written. I've changed my approach a bit, which could make the process of creating the next scenes much easier, and I'm confident it'll be smoother overall. With Ch1, I still had to upgrade characters, build environments, come up with a lot of things, write, etc. Now it'll be somewhat simpler and faster

For Ch2, I've completely written about 70% of the dialogue, although it's still in its basic form. As I mentioned, I've changed my workflow. That means when I write dialogues, I also make notes about what pose the character should have, how they should look, where the light should be, where effects should be used, etc. Usually, I used to come up with these things while creating scenes, so we'll see how it turns out in the end

To wrap up, here are a few previews as always. Hope you like them!




...and maybe something spicy as well



Enjoy the rest of your weekend and stay safe out there. Thanks for the support!

//Dream

 

[NebulousShooter]

On what iteration number of ch1 are we up to now?

Changed the nurse 3 times, made Olivia look like a gang member, changed the milf twice, changed the mom, changed the MC, changed the house, changed the young versions of characters, changed the story...
I thought its called development cycle, not development circle

I had so much hope for this game, but seems any hype and momentum has gone down the drain because Dream can't decide on a plan and stick to it.

 

[Aramintha]

On what iteration number of ch1 are we up to now?

Changed the nurse 3 times, made Olivia look like a gang member, changed the milf twice, changed the mom, changed the MC, changed the house, changed the young versions of characters, changed the story...
I thought its called development cycle, not development circle

I had so much hope for this game, but seems any hype and momentum has gone down the drain because Dream can't decide on a plan and stick to it.

Yea honestly feels like the game has been stuck in chapter 1 for ages now constantly getting reworked I much rather see the dev work on the next chapters instead of the old ones.

 

[Den1mo]

Yea honestly feels like the game has been stuck in chapter 1 for ages now constantly getting reworked I much rather see the dev work on the next chapters instead of the old ones.

That chapter is finished it's just stuck on rendering. When one image takes one hour and you render more than a thousand of them it's problem. No one can expect a guy with average hardware to shoot updates like dpc. Everything was completed in the middle of last month according to the dev logs and we have already seen almost all of the previews. It should not be forgotten that he started the rework around the end of november. It was pretty quick

Also don't forget that he is not only doing rework but also chapter 3

October 13 2023:

" The first scene from Chapter 3 has been fully rendered (112 images). The next 7 scenes are fully written and ready for creation."

October 26 2023:

"If I tally the images that have already been rendered and those currently in progress, it's approximately 450 images plus 7/8 animations (non-lewd scenes)."

 

[Hornyman2]

what a nice game

 

[jhonatanw]

"Are you okay?"
"No, I'm tired...of being scared all the time."

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

On what iteration number of ch1 are we up to now?

Changed the nurse 3 times, made Olivia look like a gang member, changed the milf twice, changed the mom, changed the MC, changed the house, changed the young versions of characters, changed the story...
I thought its called development cycle, not development circle

I had so much hope for this game, but seems any hype and momentum has gone down the drain because Dream can't decide on a plan and stick to it.

Yeah, so much changing...I liked it when it first came out, and now, who knows, it seems like the game isn't even going to go anywhere now.

Cut out the girl in the wheel chair and Megan (think name), cut out the scene in the living room many didn't like, really glad I kept the "old version", as it was the better version IMHO.

Things from the old version below that got removed in the new version.

 

[Dessolos]

yeah can hope this goes Somewhere cause I really do like the story so far tho it does seems like might be a pretty big change going by all these previews lately but for the better imo. I think this game might look better than alot of the bigger ones out there now.

 

[Den1mo]

Yeah, so much changing...I liked it when it first came out, and now, who knows, it seems like the game isn't even going to go anywhere now.

Cut out the girl in the wheel chair and Megan (think name), cut out the scene in the living room many didn't like, really glad I kept the "old version", as it was the better version IMHO.

Is it really that hard to understand that this is just a rework of the visuals and the addition of new scenes and not a change to the story? Also the scene with Jasmine and Megan is there. There are previews in the last dev log. I don't understand why anyone listens to people like NebulousShooter who does nothing just spread shit for the third time

The guy is playing a big trashtalker here but he praises the changes in the comments on patreon. After all he is one of those who claimed that the milf characters should change because they don't look like a milf and their skin looks "too smooth".This is the feedback he gave to dev but here he is complaining exactly about the same thing

It's just that some scenes are bigger and new ones have been added. Nothing changes in the story

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

Is it really that hard to understand that this is just a rework of the visuals and the addition of new scenes and not a change to the story? Also the scene with Jasmine and Megan is there. There are previews in the last dev log. I don't understand why anyone listens to people like NebulousShooter who does nothing just spread shit for the third time

The guy is playing a big trashtalker here but he praises the changes in the comments on patreon. After all he is one of those who claimed that the milf characters should change because they don't look like a milf and their skin looks "too smooth".This is the feedback he gave to dev but here he is complaining exactly about the same thing

It's just that some scenes are bigger and new ones have been added. Nothing changes in the story

I'm not listening to him; I have both versions.

I forgot Megan and the other one were on the other path, but it still doesn't change the fact the other scene is still cut out.

If it's a "rework" it needs to be in the title like every other game that has a "rework".

 

[Den1mo]

I forgot Megan and the other one were on the other path, but it still doesn't change the fact the other scene is still cut out.

And that's exactly what I'm talking about. When someone spreads lies about what a dev does and doesn't do and then the rest of the players here think the same

One scene is with Jasmine and Megan and the second choice was a scene with Kimi. Both scenes have been reworked and are there just like in the old chapter. The only thing that was removed is the choice and the scenes will happen in a different order because the second scene with Kimi was expanded several times. We have previews of both scenes

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

And that's exactly what I'm talking about. When someone spreads lies about what a dev does and doesn't do and then the rest of the players here think the same

One scene is with Jasmine and Megan and the second choice was a scene with Kimi. Both scenes have been reworked and are there just like in the old chapter. The only thing that was removed is the choice and the scenes will happen in a different order because the second scene with Kimi was expanded several times. We have previews of both scenes

I'm not talking about that scene; I'm talking about the living room scene. There are 2 scenes that happen but it is not there at all now.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Is it really that hard to understand that this is just a rework of the visuals and the addition of new scenes and not a change to the story?

just wanted to say that the rework isn't just about swapping out old images for new ones. I've thrown in a bunch of new scenes, introduced a handful of fresh characters, and there's more to come as I keep rolling with the rework. In the last devlog, I mentioned it's a bit bold to slap a final number on the images, but to give you an idea, the old Ch1 had around 661 images – the rework? Well, it's packing over 1,000, plus animations, and the writing is pushing between 18,000 and 20,000 words.

Also the scene with Jasmine and Megan is there. There are previews in the last dev log.

Didn't you say its now happening in ch3? How is introducing whole ass new characters(Chloe), switching timeline of events(Jaz and Megan intro), taking Kimi home I assume is now the default, reworking the college scenes, reworking Susan scenes, making Oliva's lebo scene skippable etc not changing the story? You can argue semantics all you want, none of the things I posted are wrong.

I don't understand why anyone listens to people like NebulousShooter who does nothing just spread shit for the third time

The guy is playing a big trashtalker here but he praises the changes in the comments on patreon. After all he is one of those who claimed that the milf characters should change because they don't look like a milf and their skin looks "too smooth".This is the feedback he gave to dev but here he is complaining exactly about the same thing

It's just that some scenes are bigger and new ones have been added. Nothing changes in the story

That was the only thing I praised AFTER you made the changes, I didn't say shit about what SHOULD change, its insignificant in the grand scheme of things since for me the 0.1 graphics were good enough, I would 1000x times rather you continue the story than rework inconsequential stuff.

You have no idea to how many of my friends I recommend this game and once they started doing a bit of research they all pretty much called you Ocean on crack, in terms of indecisiveness.

Just from this Friday.

And that's exactly what I'm talking about. When someone spreads lies about what a dev does and doesn't do and then the rest of the players here think the same

One scene is with Jasmine and Megan and the second choice was a scene with Kimi. Both scenes have been reworked and are there just like in the old chapter. The only thing that was removed is the choice and the scenes will happen in a different order because the second scene with Kimi was expanded several times. We have previews of both scenes

Do you want me to link every bit of info from my post, its all in your devlogs and some discord posts, so if your word means anything they are true, so you might want to walk back the 'spread lies' claims.

Btw, this lukewarm criticism got me banned for life from Patreon and Discord, lol. This reaches DPC levels of soft
Now thinking back this I took it as a joke, but if this


was what got me banned you have one of the most fragile egos I have ever seen and that wasn't you joking around, it was you being petty...

I'm not talking about that scene; I'm talking about the living room scene. There are 2 scenes that happen but it is not there at all now.

Sam scenes are not there anymore, changed because he felt it didn't fit the tone of MC's situation after coming from the hospital. Jasmine and Megan will happen at a later time, same, extended, different who knows. I am done shittalking and spreading lies ~

 

[xCalon]

Changed the nurse 3 times, made Olivia look like a gang member, changed the milf twice, changed the mom, changed the MC, changed the house, changed the young versions of characters, changed the story...

Here I can 100% agree with You, most of the changing was unnecessary. But for me, the most sad thing is the change of Olivia's appearance.

DevLog 6:

"...in my eyes, she was always a character who was dark, full of secrets, sad, depressed, and hard, but these things were never seen. It never got much attention from me, and it's safe to say that I never quite got around to the characters having any personality. There might be something to it because I've heard many times that all the characters are similar, either visually or in behavior.

This "explanation" is incomprehensible to me. Not because I don't understand Dream's intent, but because what he wrote simply doesn't cover reality. I think that if someone is dark, full of secrets, sad, depressed, and hard, it does not necessarily show in their appearance. I wouldn't have a problem with the tattoos themselves, if it weren't for the neck tattoo, because I think it's ugly, and we'd also throw away the nose ring. Olivia's previous appearance was much more likeable, and much more beautiful, but at the same time I felt that she was sad, depressed, and secretive.

 

[nobody0]

You have no idea to how many of my friends I recommend this game and once they started doing a bit of research they all pretty much called you Ocean on crack, in terms of indecisiveness.

Btw, this lukewarm criticism got me banned for life from Patreon and Discord, lol. This reaches DPC levels of soft
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was what got me banned you have one of the most fragile egos I have ever seen and that wasn't you joking around, it was you being petty...

Am I missing something here? Or do you think Den1mo is dream?

 

[NebulousShooter]

Am I missing something here? Or do you think Den1mo is dream?

 

[yossa999]

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Nah, I mean


Bro Den1mo is a little bitter after he got a taste of his own medicine which he used to treat people in the SG thread yesterday.

But I really hope it's just you being green. Devs attacking each other here is the most disgusting thing I can imagine. As if there aren't enough "constructive critics" for this job.

 

[Joshy92]

Nah, I mean


Bro Den1mo is a little bitter after he got a taste of his own medicine which he used to treat people in the SG thread yesterday.

But I really hope it's just you being green. Devs attacking each other here is the most disgusting thing I can imagine. As if there aren't enough "constructive critics" for this job.

Neb isn't a dev bro.

Or am I misreading things as usual?

 

[yossa999]

Neb isn't a dev bro.

Or am I misreading things as usual?

As usual bro
Just read this post https://f95zone.to/threads/beyond-tomorrow-ch-2-dream-games.161133/post-13082578
I didn't even noticed at first time he refers to Den1mo as Dream