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StrongEpsilon

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Okay...please...someone help me out here...----> MC is literally SWIMMING in a kind of erotic Bouillabaisse of Victoria Secret Models. Everyone of them is a solid 11 (out of 10 :LOL:)....soo...and appearently everyone of them is fond of the MC. How...i am asking HOW...can someone be so unbelievable stupid and NOT trying to score at anyone of them? MC has really managed to be friendzoned by EVERY woman. Can he not reading the room?? Can he not reading body language? Congrats, he is the World Champion of Douches. I mean...how...and why didn t he try anthing with some girl?? Is he secretly gay and in love with Martin?? :unsure: That would explain a lot.... I really feel the need to punch him...:LOL:

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You want him to notice so early? It's chapter two, he just woke up. He needs some aromatherapy with fragrant sticks for the slow burning, then we'll see... maybe after chapters 7-8, eventually. Hmm, too much all at once.
 
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Lorenz1

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Not throwing stones at Dream, but I can't say that I'm hyped for Ch. 3.

Fair. Ocean, for all the shade thrown at him, and all his arguing that his games are not dating simulators, actually work as pretty decent dating simulators. Slow in development, but at least you can see the love interests, paths and go on dates from the getgo.

Dream is... not that.
 

Klaes Ashford

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Fair. Ocean, for all the shade thrown at him, and all his arguing that his games are not dating simulators, actually work as pretty decent dating simulators. Slow in development, but at least you can see the love interests, paths and go on dates from the getgo.

Dream is... not that.
First thought upon giving this a try was "Is this Ocean's burner persona?"
Ridiculous renders, similar music, zero sex, lonely divorcee cougar or two, 'artsy pg-13' nudity, very similar looking girls...like are these Ocean's dufs..... and majority of them have gigantic fucking tits, two or three underlying dark conspiracies, oblivious MC...
 

MiltonPowers

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I don't really care if people like a game or not. You don't like it, delete it and put it on ignore, you don't throw death threats and hope he dies of cancer at the dev. I know people here were not doing that (unless they were deleted before I saw them), but that is just bullshit behavior and good chance, dev will just chuck it all in now (I wouldn't blame him).

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I don't really care if people like a game or not. You don't like it, delete it and put it on ignore, you don't throw death threats and hope he dies of cancer at the dev. I know people here were not doing that (unless they were deleted before I saw them), but that is just bullshit behavior and good chance, dev will just chuck it all in now (I wouldn't blame him).

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Don't know about reddit but no-one has been threatening dev here. It more feels like dev cannot take criticism from this forum.
 

ItsNotUs

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I don't really care if people like a game or not. You don't like it, delete it and put it on ignore, you don't throw death threats and hope he dies of cancer at the dev. I know people here were not doing that (unless they were deleted before I saw them), but that is just bullshit behavior and good chance, dev will just chuck it all in now (I wouldn't blame him).

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Let me start with something serious.
It is very low and rude to wish death on someone, etc.
I think that you can argue in different ways, even say that your game is crap, well, you can even say that the dev themselves are crap, but crossing such a line is unnecessary!

Now let's skip the essence of the matter, the moments of wishing him death, etc., but what did he want to get by releasing a remake of the first part and the second part, where it was already mentioned above, just MC moves around all day and bla bla bla? I didn't replay from the very beginning, because my saves worked fine. My complaint criticism was that there is no "sex scenes", i was not even talking about MC, but about Olivia's overnight stay. Future tags indicate fisting, lesbians etc. i.e. she will romance, but not with MC.
But not only does he not show anything, he also cuts out and mentions a big dev who consoles him, well damn, that's for sure Ocean - remade remade remade, steam cutting out content, the update not coming out for over a year!

You shouldn't act under the influence of the crowd, that's why i said that even at the very beginning there was a scene of girlfriend manstruating, now he cut it out and wants to be praised!
For what?
Yes, he has a beautiful quality picture and he lie that he has a bad PC!
I can't afford such image on my 3060 i5, especially in dark tones with deep shadows!
No need to look up to top devs like Ocean, who has several top PCs! Do your job, reduce the quality, lower the resolution, the game has only two parts and already weighs more than seven gigabytes!
And we probably should also praise him for this, that despite the huge size, there is almost nothing in the game!
There is drama, ok, but that is already in other projects and again we return to his comforter, remembers the scene with the cat and the mouse, again reference to the Ocean!
Works 16 hours?
Don't work 16 hours, reduce the number of unnecessary renders, especially since there's nothing else in the game except conversations. What's the point of making 5k renders just for bla bla bla?

Personally, my criticism was aimed at the lack of sex scenes, even minimal teasing, after learning that he also cut out the previous scenes. Lol, of course, I won't wish him death, etc., but I won't say thank you either! What did he expect?
I don't know, let him ignore the negative reviews and do everything at his own pace, even if the next update comes out in a year, there still won't be sex in it! This is a project for Ocean fans who have caught Zen!
I can understand him as an artist who tried hard on something and expected to see a different reaction, yes, it can go wrong, but he does it for money, he should have more motivation and not pay attention to comments.
Learn from Ocean, he has trained his fans so much, even those who sit on this forum, who are ready to rip a person's throat out for any criticism, saying that he is a troll, etc!
Relax, take a break, breathe and work a couple of hours a day. Otherwise, what's the point of putting so much effort into a story that doesn't even have sex scenes, so you don't even see your friends!? Lol
 
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Geralt From Rivia

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I don't really care if people like a game or not. You don't like it, delete it and put it on ignore, you don't throw death threats and hope he dies of cancer at the dev. I know people here were not doing that (unless they were deleted before I saw them), but that is just bullshit behavior and good chance, dev will just chuck it all in now (I wouldn't blame him).

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The same post Dream is talking about, OP is ballistic, but not extreme, something like "remember - never pre-order".

But he is right. Moreover, all these screaming about sex and incest, threating the dev, they are ignoring the actual game problems with writing. That how constructive criticism is drowning in the wave of stupid hate.

Don't know about reddit but no-one has been threatening dev here. It more feels like dev cannot take criticism from this forum.
This is real, threats was send in DM
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Don't know about reddit but no-one has been threatening dev here. It more feels like dev cannot take criticism from this forum.
Honestly, people who do shit like that (death threats and shit), always send them in DMs. It's not uncommon unfortunately and there's really no stopping it.

I agree with some of the criticism in this case. I think this VN does need to shift toward focusing on romantic relationships because the drama and plutonic dialogue gets boring as fuck. And yeah, I think good lewds in an AVN is pretty fucking important especially in a game with so much fine tits and ass like this one. A porn game without porn is like a version of King Kong that never gets to the fucking monkey. (fuck you peter jackson. Yeah i'm still bitter).

But the death threats and insults are extremely inappropriate but there's nothing to do except to block those people and tune them out. Report them if they get out of hand. The dev should always stick to his vision. Be open to criticism (which this dev has a reputation for not taking very well) but ultimately make his own decisions about the direction of his own project and if we don't like where it's going, we can leave. But there's never a good reason to insult or attack the dev or supporters... ever.
 

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this dev had two meltdowns already, one of them resulting in him deleting his f95 account. i'd advise people to take what he says with a grain of salt. it is also pretty evident that he labels any form of criticism as "hate" from that post.
I wouldn't doubt that he's gotten some death threats and nasty shit sent to his DMs. Literally every dev gets those in their DMs whether it's F95, Patreon, or Discord. It sucks, but part of being a content creator is dealing with that shit and not letting it affect you. Either close DMs or laugh them off.

But yeah, I just read that reddit post that was referenced and if he's calling that "hate" then I'm beginning to get skeptical of how the dev is portraying all of this. The reddit post was pointing out some legit criticisms but there was no insults, attacks, or hate at all. The only thing I didn't particularly like about it was the part where he told people not to give the dev their money (people can support who they fucking want), but that was NOT a hateful post by any stretch. The dev blatantly mischaracterized that. Seems more like he's bitching about getting criticism at all.
 
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I don't really care if people like a game or not. You don't like it, delete it and put it on ignore, you don't throw death threats and hope he dies of cancer at the dev. I know people here were not doing that (unless they were deleted before I saw them), but that is just bullshit behavior and good chance, dev will just chuck it all in now (I wouldn't blame him).

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I don't like the game and gave it a 2-star review, but I do feel bad for the dev. Imo, players let him down by demanding changes that ultimately made his game worse. Now, he should just focus on continuing the game as he sees fit and only paying attention to those who like the game, ignoring people who dropped it (they aren't his audience). Yep, that includes me ;)
 
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Overlord070

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I don't doubt that he received some fucked up messages, unfortunately that's the world we live in these days, too many internet warriors getting off on anonymity. Getting these and taking it on the chin isn't easy, and not everyone can "hack it". Best thing is blocking and reporting these retards.

Having said that, other criticisms are spot on. Game is lacking a lot of things especially the Adult part of AVN and each rework has made the VN worse imo.
 
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I haven't played the original version, and this probably puts me firmly in the minority here, but I actually really like the current version of the game. Most of the AVNs I play, and this again probably puts me firmly in the minority here, I'm not really playing for the sex scenes, but I can understand why that would turn a lot of people off to the project. If a game has engaging characters and is well written, that's absolutely my cup of tea. I liked the way the relationships were written here. MC and Olivia's relationship, I think, is really well done along with a lot of other things. The strain on the family because of their mom's health issues, Sam being the one to keep the siblings from basically killing each other, the hints at their father playing a large role in the overarching narrative and in how Megan views the MC are all things that are drawing me in to the story.

Again, I understand that this game and it's story aren't delivering on what a lot of people want out of these types of games, but I also really don't think it's a bad game in the slightest.
 

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What was the reason for the rework and removal of the scenes? Was it because the sister was a LI at first and they're avoiding the patreon banhammer with the rework?
 

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What was the reason for the rework and removal of the scenes? Was it because the sister was a LI at first and they're avoiding the patreon banhammer with the rework?
No, sister has never been an LI. Sam was the girlfriend in the original and had a sex scene, but 'people' complained and bitched and moaned. So Dev took it out, as well as a scene between sister and her girlfriend (Sasha).

IMO, the renders are a lot better in the remake and the girls are even hotter (especially Sarah for me - went from a 'meh' to a 'wow'). And dev removed the forced girlfriend and the lesbian scene that people complained about.

But now we have complaints that there is no sex scene in the first 2 chapters. :unsure:
 

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No, sister has never been an LI. Sam was the girlfriend in the original and had a sex scene, but 'people' complained and bitched and moaned. So Dev took it out, as well as a scene between sister and her girlfriend (Sasha).
I have literally zero problem with Olivia never being an LI. If I remember correctly that was clear on day one what tags want the dev avoid, and one of them was incest. And the same is true with Sam as a girlfriend. She could have easily stayed as a girlfriend, and then at some point they could have chosen to remain LI, or break up, but remain good friends.

IMO, the renders are a lot better in the remake and the girls are even hotter (especially Sarah for me - went from a 'meh' to a 'wow'). And dev removed the forced girlfriend and the lesbian scene that people complained about.
I completely agree with you. The renders are really much better, the difference between before and now is spectacular. Basically, the story may be interesting, but it's obviously not perfect, and I don't think it needs to be, I can easily get over any flaws and shortcomings.
And anyone can complain to me about how similar the characters are to each other, but those bodies... goddamn! :love::love::love:
I could mention all of them, because - at least for me - they are all a pleasant sight.

But now we have complaints that there is no sex scene in the first 2 chapters. :unsure:
"Fortunately" the so many had to tell the dev what and how to do it. This is not the first time, and it will not be the last, but the dev should have stuck to his vision.
 
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