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Shiva0067

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i bought the step ladder but was never given an option to use it.
Do you have the camera? The ladder is used to install the camera. Do this when NO ONE else is at the house OR when ONLY Alice is home and reading in the area where you eat. When you have those conditions go to the Bathroom and you should have the option to install the camera.

Hope that helps.
 
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Dracconic Evolution

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Then it is possible that due to how you potentially used the mod may have caused the save/playthrough to become corrupt. I know that if when using the mod that IF you use the rush delivery the moment you buy the ladder and camera that it will break the game, so it is possible that something similar happened to you as well.
 
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DarkEnergy

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Then it is possible that due to how you potentially used the mod may have caused the save/playthrough to become corrupt. I know that if when using the mod that IF you use the rush delivery the moment you buy the ladder and camera that it will break the game, so it is possible that something similar happened to you as well.
Seems to be correct. Replay with cheat mod, but didn't use the quick delivery. Stepladder available in shop at day 3.
 

MR-XS

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Does this version include ntr?
Is there a plan from the developers for how the story will evolve?
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Nemo56

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What is NTR?
A abbrevation for a japanese term that describes a story mechanic: The protagonist catches another guy stealing his love interest(s) and suffers.

Many people oversimplify it to "other guy than the MC having sex". Some even include scenes not visible on screen.

There is also a story mechanic where the protagonist steals someone elses love interest which could be abbrevated the same way, but that's usually not, what people mean.
 
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MR-XS

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I don't understand the complaints about the NTR. There are thousands and thousands of games where it is not present, why complain about a game where it is present and even optional as a choice? In this case, Eric is the real star of the game, without him the story would be flat and uninvolving.
 

Nemo56

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Probably for the same reason why people ask for it and think a badly designed side character can add anything of value to the game, despite there being thousands and thousands of games with NTR in them and one game almost exclusively focused on that side character.
Some like it and some don't.
 

MR-XS

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But this game was born with the idea of ntr, or am I wrong?
People know that this is how it was designed and so they would like to continue the story.

I can't understand why choose a product where the ntr is explicit and clear, and then complain about it. It was enough to simply choose something else.
 

Nemo56

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But this game was born with the idea of ntr, or am I wrong?
No. It's about corrupting the family and of course the cameras ("big brother").

Eric wasn't there in the beginning. He was added at some point because some annoyingly loud people demanded NTR. But his content was always kinda weak. Most story arcs didn't include him at all and once he was removed from the house (on two paths) he didn't have any influence on anything of course. But even if you kept him around on the third path, he would not take part in the upcoming story arcs. He was just there for the sake of it.
 

Ntwaidumella

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I don't understand the complaints about the NTR. There are thousands and thousands of games where it is not present, why complain about a game where it is present and even optional as a choice? In this case, Eric is the real star of the game, without him the story would be flat and uninvolving.
It's always the noisy minority complaining about NTR... if Eric leaves the game ends like it happened in 100 % of cases in BB games around the world

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firevoodoo

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No. It's about corrupting the family and of course the cameras ("big brother").

Eric wasn't there in the beginning. He was added at some point because some annoyingly loud people demanded NTR. But his content was always kinda weak. Most story arcs didn't include him at all and once he was removed from the house (on two paths) he didn't have any influence on anything of course. But even if you kept him around on the third path, he would not take part in the upcoming story arcs. He was just there for the sake of it.
That’s factually incorrect. Kira (NPC #4) and Eric (NPC#5) were both considered to be introduced in the demo.

Dark Silver is an early Telegram app enthusiast, his channel is dated to July 2016 when he was developing original Glamour. Later that year he put Glamour on hold and introduced Big Brother.

Here is the entry from 2016, Dec 10, 2.37 PM:

“The fourth character will be Kira, Max's aunt, his mother's younger sister. She will not be introduced immediately and she won't spend every night in the house but she’ll greatly affect family’s life when she is. She is almost without brakes but seems to understand the ultimate boundaries. Or so I hope. Family loves her very much but mother doubts Kira will be positive influence on her kids. You’ll learn about this and more from the game in due time. She plans to sleep in the living room, closer to the refrigerator and the TV (or projector to be precise). Did I mention she is almost without brakes? :D

I haven't decided yet whether she ‘ll be in demo or not. I'll make either 3 NPCs from the start or 5 (I’ll tell you about Eric another time). At the moment, all 3 NPC’s images are already in the game (both rendered and photoshoped). Max’s various activities still lack a number of images but that’s a separate issue. I'm going to start working with files and localization now. It is better to lay it all down in the initial stage than to redesign the entire system later on. I'll make the first build for testers after that.”

Original text in Russian:

Четвёртым персонажем в игре станет Кира, родная тётя Макса, младшая сестра его мамы. Появится она не сразу, но сильно повлияет на жизнь семьи. Комплексов почти нет, но границы разумного вроде бы представляет. Надеюсь. Вся семья очень её любит и лишь мать сомневается, что Кира может научить её детей чему-то хорошему. Но об этом и многом другом вы узнаете из игры, конечно. Ночевать в доме она будет не каждый день. Спать планирует в гостиной. Поближе к холодильнику и телевизору (а точнее, проектору). Да, я говорил, что она без комплексов? :D

Пока не решил, будет она в техно-демо или нет. Либо сделаю на старте 3 NPC, либо 5 (об Эрике расскажу в другой раз). На данный момент готовы (отрендерены, обработаны в фотошопе и вставлены в игру) все изображения для 3-х персонажей в игровых локациях. Ещё потребуется ряд изображений для различных действий Макса, но это отдельный вопрос. Сейчас займусь работой с файлами и локализацией. Лучше заложить её на начальном этапе, чем потом перекраивать всю систему. После этого сделаю первый билд для тестеров, а там посмотрим.

Btw, I remember back in the original Big Brother thread there was a link to Literotica story where MC was jealous of Mom's boyfriend, Eric… Sadly, I didn’t preserve that link and wasn't able to find it ever since. That short story (which I vaguely remember ended in a bisex trio or …worse) remarkably resembled Big Brother’s basic plot.

I still have that demo on my old NB but I’m too lazy to check out if Eric was there. Kira, obviously, was not, but they both were envisioned as major plot devices to move story forward.

In short: Eric was there from the very beginning.
 
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firevoodoo

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P.S. I always found all this NTR Holly War amazing up to the point when I realized some people associate themselves with MCs. Which blew my mind. I never ever did that even when I was little kid reading all those novels. Which I did like most Soviet kids before I went to school. I never associated myself with MCs, I always observed.

As for porn it is ultimately "NTR" anyway ether way you see it. Whatever story is, you sit with the cock in your hand (in an empty room, hopefully) while someone else does the girl, not you.
 
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