Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.05.02] [Aleksey90]

[dwalsh]

A bit yeah. I think a lot of NTR games are by first-time devs who are doing it because they want to see NTR. Which is great motivation, but I think it ends up being more than they can chew. Not to mention, money can make a struggling dev push through that learning curve, and NTR games bring less of it.

I'm actually trying to make one now with a NTR path and a Harem path. It is a lot of work. I have tons I want to do, but being real, I know for a first game I need to make it as barebones as possible or else it probably will get too complex. I think a lot of devs shoot too high that first time.

Thanks for digging those links up. For me personally, I now do recall seeing them. I passed because I kind of low-key hate the Max model lol

Try Demon Boy I'm a patron of that dev too. Not playing the NTR route but I hear it's going good.

 

[dwalsh]

A bit yeah. I think a lot of NTR games are by first-time devs who are doing it because they want to see NTR. Which is great motivation, but I think it ends up being more than they can chew. Not to mention, money can make a struggling dev push through that learning curve, and NTR games bring less of it.

I'm actually trying to make one now with a NTR path and a Harem path. It is a lot of work. I have tons I want to do, but being real, I know for a first game I need to make it as barebones as possible or else it probably will get too complex. I think a lot of devs shoot too high that first time.

Thanks for digging those links up. For me personally, I now do recall seeing them. I passed because I kind of low-key hate the Max model lol

I've had an Epic mystical world vn on my hands for two years now and still on the opening scene. That's why I don't knock devs.

 

[Nemo56]

[...] That's NTR.

Actually no, what you described is just a threat and motivational story plot, but for ntr it actually needs to happen. If you just threaten to murder someone, it's not murder. But I see where you are going.

I never cared much for Eric. He is a good plot device to get things rolling, but nothing more than that. If he was a more interesting character, his plots might have been worth something.
Once I tried the friendship path and it was boring as hell (well, except for all the neutral elements in which he plays no role in, these are identical on all paths). The only good path was the one where he would actually be a threat. But also that got old at some point and I got him kicked out. Since them I don't care to see anything of that char again. Good thing is that in BIBOAS you hardly notice him if you don't want to except for the scenes where you need to take a photo of him (or kick him out).

Btw, I now also played the Max' plot of Glamour and it was ok, just that constant control/submission/domination/punishment was really really annoying. I prefer better plots with a more natural progression. What saved it, was that massive self irony, with chars being fully aware that the whole situation is nuts.

 

[dwalsh]

Actually no, what you described is just a threat and motivational story plot, but for ntr it actually needs to happen. If you just threaten to murder someone, it's not murder. But I see where you are going.

I never cared much for Eric. He is a good plot device to get things rolling, but nothing more than that. If he was a more interesting character, his plots might have been worth something.
Once I tried the friendship path and it was boring as hell (well, except for all the neutral elements in which he plays no role in, these are identical on all paths). The only good path was the one where he would actually be a threat. But also that got old at some point and I got him kicked out. Since them I don't care to see anything of that char again. Good thing is that in BIBOAS you hardly notice him if you don't want to except for the scenes where you need to take a photo of him (or kick him out).

Btw, I now also played the Max' plot of Glamour and it was ok, just that constant control/submission/domination/punishment was really really annoying. I prefer better plots with a more natural progression. What saved it, was that massive self irony, with chars being fully aware that the whole situation is nuts.

that's universal with Big Brother games. And funny enough the plot starts at the beginning each and dies quickly. Where is his father, how could he afford this house, why is there a camera in the living, what is he doing now, why did he all of a sudden give them this house?

 

[dwalsh]

To me Eric only distracts you from realizing that there is pretty much no storyline being followed. On the war path he's gone so let's see what's Aleksey comes up with.

 

[kgirlffx]

Actually no, what you described is just a threat and motivational story plot, but for ntr it actually needs to happen. If you just threaten to murder someone, it's not murder. But I see where you are going.

I never cared much for Eric. He is a good plot device to get things rolling, but nothing more than that. If he was a more interesting character, his plots might have been worth something.
Once I tried the friendship path and it was boring as hell (well, except for all the neutral elements in which he plays no role in, these are identical on all paths). The only good path was the one where he would actually be a threat. But also that got old at some point and I got him kicked out. Since them I don't care to see anything of that char again. Good thing is that in BIBOAS you hardly notice him if you don't want to except for the scenes where you need to take a photo of him (or kick him out).

Btw, I now also played the Max' plot of Glamour and it was ok, just that constant control/submission/domination/punishment was really really annoying. I prefer better plots with a more natural progression. What saved it, was that massive self irony, with chars being fully aware that the whole situation is nuts.

Sure, but by that same logic, if you played a Sherlock Holmes-style mystery game following clues and piecing together a puzzle, for the dev cut the mystery before it is solved and pivot to something different, was the game never a mystery game in the first place or was it just never fulfilled because the dev changed his mind?

Similar to NTR, if you play a game with all the building elements of NTR, to have said NTR vanish before completion, it is still an NTR game, just one that never pans out.

This is a matter of semantics though to a degree.

Personality-wise I felt Eric was very weak, non-existent. I only liked his presence for the NTR element. Def think he was not a full realized character at all.

 

[foible]

SO much of NTR is the build. The slow corruption. It just never panned out. The competitive character of Eric alone made it NTR. A game set up with a stereotypically more alpha figure plotting and planning to take all the women the MC wants. And, to some degree, winning. That's NTR.

Netorare LITERALLY means “cuckoldry”. So, where is the cuckoldry? When Eric shows up, not one of the girls is your lover. Not a one. The game was meant to have two paths. Get rid of Eric before he garners too much influence, or be the submissive voyeur of his harem that gets sloppy seconds on the occasion that he feels like sharing.

OG “friend” path likely would have resulted in one of two endings. Either Max eventually gets shipped to military school anyway or Eric makes him leave of his volition by humiliating him with things like making Max eat the girls out after he creampies them or forcing him to let the girls peg him or some shit.

Without a mob-style option where Eric actually disappears/dies, eliminating his influence over Ann is tough. I saw some mention of the full-blown porn-making route, but it’s not necessary. Kira’s already a pornstar, Alice is doing the webcam stuff. Ann is clearly a bit a wild/exhibitionist kind of girl, it’s just been bottled up and tucked away what for raising three kids and being a responsible adult. Assuredly, once Eric is gone it shouldn’t be too difficult for Kira and Alice to help convince Ann to start her own webcam show and quit working for Eric, thereby removing the last vestige of control he has over the family. Thus providing opportunity for other antagonists in the story.

 

[foible]

This one
https://f95zone.to/threads/ways-of-life-v0-85-ralx-games-productions.11530/

Blech! That shit is garbage. Even if you disregard the suspicions that there’s some shady malware/keylogger-style shit going on, it takes ten days play ten minutes of content for all the lag on transitions and actions. It’s excruciating!

 

[dwalsh]

Blech! That shit is garbage. Even if you disregard the suspicions that there’s some shady malware/keylogger-style shit going on, it takes ten days play ten minutes of content for all the lag on transitions and actions. It’s excruciating!

Gracias amigo, kgirlffx disregard this one please.

 

[dwalsh]

Hey guys.Did someone of you still have the archive with all previes for entire game so far?Since the beginning.
Can you share it?

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Not sure how long this link will be active

 

[dwalsh]

Also it's not current. Not sure up to what update this is anymore

 

[armion82]

Mega
Not sure how long this link will be active

Thanks.1 more minute will be enougt to download it.

 

[troll822]

Yes. And it's been tried and failed more than once.

Eh? It has been tried and failed more than once? But there are a lot of games where the MC tries to fuck the mother of his girlfriend, and some are very successful. I know, cause I like MILFs.
Furthermore, on the not-a-teen protag, there are also games that come to mind where a not-teen guy tries to fuck the daughters of his girlfriend / employee.

Also, in the original BB, Max has shown interest in Olivia's mother as well.

 

[dwalsh]

Eh? It has been tried and failed more than once? But there are a lot of games where the MC tries to fuck the mother of his girlfriend, and some are very successful. I know, cause I like MILFs.
Furthermore, on the not-a-teen protag, there are also games that come to mind where a not-teen guy tries to fuck the daughters of his girlfriend / employee.

Also, in the original BB, Max has shown interest in Olivia's mother as well.

Sorry friend, I'm not talking about other games/vn's just specifically Big Brother remakes.

 

[troll822]

Sorry friend, I'm not talking about other games/vn's just specially Big Brother remakes.

Meh, those games are in for a bad start with lots of the community early on. Sure, good writing could have overcome those problems, like with the Joker movie that focused on the antagonist, but it is an uphill battle.

 

[ToshinRaizen]

so i finished play remake story renpy - good game.
about this another story tho. in remake eric path i got to see insane scene with ann, but not much in expose eric path.. ( can bang ann anywhere in the house .. tho)
aunt kira scene also insanely hot in eric path but nothing much in expose eric path..

i like porn path but... nothing much special in it... with ann like in eric path
will this another story follow the same?

 

[soubhagya2800]

Any one plz share new pic of Patreon

 

[dwalsh]

Meh, those games are in for a bad start with lots of the community early on. Sure, good writing could have overcome those problems, like with the Joker movie that focused on the antagonist, but it is an uphill battle.

I can agree to that, a version of Big Brother that breaks the mold from the beginning would be something to take a look at.

 

[dwalsh]

That's fair. And though I don't want to admit it, games based around NTR do get less money than a standard harem. My only rebuttal would be that a game with Eric as the PoV would not be NTR, it would be a corruption/dom game, which people do love ;p

Reading this over "My Employee's family" comes to mind.

 

[foible]

Speaking of similar games/alternate versions, which one’s the one where you learn that your family is witches and it turns out you’re some rarely occurring part of the male bloodline that can fuel all the women’s powers?