Speak for yourself, plenty of people like that sort of thing far more than a no-difficulty no logic beta boy harem. To each their own, but Eric was the only thing good about this game to me. ;p
Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.05.02] [Aleksey90]
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Don't fully agree on the Eric part, but the rest I feel right there with you. It's a shame, if Max did not look like kid it might be more interesting. As it stands, I can't take any Max path seriously since he looks like a doofy kid and, to me at least, has literally no appeal.
Also not really into any of the other characters for the reasons you state. The aunt is boring, too easy, the mother seems legit drugged levels of out to lunch, and Alice is cheap.
I seem to be in the minority tho, as this is one of the more popular games. I don't get it tho.
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He didn't say that there are not many people willing to support it financially. I take it you are one of those who payed for games with Eric as main character then?
There is no shame in being part of a minotiry, btw.
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I did speak for myself (my opinion). Also my argument was not a case of how many people like Eric.
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idk, Big Brother was my first newish Western 3d porn game and I was allured by Ann's model. But after Eric showed up it was my personal mission to eradicate this asshole off the face of the Earth and motivated me to play further through the grinding sludge and nevercomming Ann content. So, the role Eric has in this game worked on me perfectly.
I won't be against deepening Eric's content and influence onto the game as it was pretty flat in the original, but in the end he must go. It's not an NTR game and remake shouldn't and wouldn't change it.
I won't be against deepening Eric's content and influence onto the game as it was pretty flat in the original, but in the end he must go. It's not an NTR game and remake shouldn't and wouldn't change it.
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Solid points, for me I'm glad he's no longer in the house. But unfortunately he's not gone yet, looking at Ann's influence you'll see he's still around in the darkness somewhere. Nothing a flamethrower can't fix.
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That's because he's still Ann's boss. If the original game is anything to speculate by, he's going to get her fired at some point pushing the story to the porn movie making arc. If that's going to happen or not in Aleksey's version, we don't know.
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Yup, nearing the "Another Story" partThat's because he's still Ann's boss. If the original game is anything to speculate by, he's going to get her fired at some point pushing the story to the porn movie making arc. If that's going to happen or not in Aleksey's version, we don't know.
I honestly never even seen a BB game from the Eric PoV. If any existed, must have been a while back or the dev time was very short.
My comment mostly was meant to be taken light-hearted so don't want to dig into too much, but he literally said " Yes. And it's been tried and failed more than once. This may hit a few people in the feelings but a lot Eric supporters don't back up all their words with currency."
This exactly means that he is saying not many people are willing to support it financially. That's fine if that's his opinion, I was just disagreeing.
Not a big deal, but that is 100% what he said. Not sure why the push back on it tbh.
I am always confused when people say "It's not an NTR game." What do you think an NTR game is?
I've given up on this game personally, but just wanted to be clear on something.
The base game was 100% a split harem/NTR game. I'm not sure why the push on that. One path was harem, the other was NTR. If people want to argue they don't like NTR and would like it removed, I don't agree with that, but whatever floats your boat, or not, is up to you.
Arguments like this have always smacked of people simply not understanding what NTR even is. It is the same argument as the "MAX IS THE MAIN CHARACTER," point people like to shout to justify NTR hate. My response is, uhh, yeah, that's the point of NTR. The main character is the one being NTR'ed. It would not be NTR if Max was not the main character.
Totally unsure why this is so confusing. I'm guessing, not saying you are, it's just antis who want to justify their stance tbh
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Nah I caught the jest and gist of what you were saying. My correction was directed to the point of I was not speaking about the how many people are Eric fans. I kept my point to financial support in relation to a previous comment about a version where Eric is the protagonist. Your comments was "Speak for yourself, plenty of people like that sort of thing far more than a no-difficulty no logic beta boy harem. To each their own, but Eric was the only thing good about this game to me. ;p" which is another debate that I'm fine with btw. But at best it tethered very weakly to what I said, no pushback, no ill will, just a simple correction.
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The only one I have seen that comes close is "my girlfriend's amnesia" and even that is not ntr in the sense of the words. Some guy sometimes enters at night to have abuse the players girlfriend who can't remember anything from the day before, but only if the player chooses so. The MC does not see, so it's tecnically not ntr.
If you say that it was a 100% split harem/ntr game, who was taken from the mc? I remember that the original BB always had that ntr shadow over it, but it actually never happened. It was the danger that Max would face if he didn't succeed. All I can think of are a few scenes with Alice on war path if the player didn't buy her outfit and lost influence. Is that what you mean? Or what else was there? The abusive pics with Lisa were fan made.
And no, I have never seen a Eric game myself, but I believe it if someone says that there were attempts to make one.
I am actually not sure if there are ANY non ntr games apart maybe from some hentai VNs (if you call VNs games ...). It's a narrative aspect but for it's nature it's very difficult to include it in a game where the player is meant to do something and maybe succeed.
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That's fair. And though I don't want to admit it, games based around NTR do get less money than a standard harem. My only rebuttal would be that a game with Eric as the PoV would not be NTR, it would be a corruption/dom game, which people do love ;p
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I've never played thie myself
https://f95zone.to/threads/torrid-affairs-v0-01-noesisandnoema.10838/
Plus there's another one that was recently brought out from abandonment, can't remember the name but I'll look it up.
https://f95zone.to/threads/torrid-affairs-v0-01-noesisandnoema.10838/
Plus there's another one that was recently brought out from abandonment, can't remember the name but I'll look it up.
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I personally think that model is cursed. I've been looking and have not found a completed game with it yet.
I think it is fair to say that the NTR in the original was never fully developed. I think it was there though, and you could say the original was an NTR/Harem split route game.
SO much of NTR is the build. The slow corruption. It just never panned out. The competitive character of Eric alone made it NTR. A game set up with a stereotypically more alpha figure plotting and planning to take all the women the MC wants. And, to some degree, winning. That's NTR.
But, on reflection, on some level, I guess you could argue it was never really an NTR game since that plot line was never taken to its payoff. But, I think it was intended to at first, the concept was present, I mean, hell, that's what drew me to it in the first place.
On the other hand, that's kind of mixing causations. NTR was planned, people pushed against NTR, NTR dropped, so never NTR. See what I mean? The push against NTR is what killed NTR, so to use that NTR never panned out to say it was never NTR is a bit circular.
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A bit yeah. I think a lot of NTR games are by first-time devs who are doing it because they want to see NTR. Which is great motivation, but I think it ends up being more than they can chew. Not to mention, money can make a struggling dev push through that learning curve, and NTR games bring less of it.
I'm actually trying to make one now with a NTR path and a Harem path. It is a lot of work. I have tons I want to do, but being real, I know for a first game I need to make it as barebones as possible or else it probably will get too complex. I think a lot of devs shoot too high that first time.
Thanks for digging those links up. For me personally, I now do recall seeing them. I passed because I kind of low-key hate the Max model lol
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