Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.07.01] [Aleksey90]

[maxbishup]

The original had Eric in it. And the game plots ARE already different, so no ... with or without Eric it's a different game.

I can respect that you want that conflict, ok. Still ... you asked someone who wanted him gone, why he would not play the original instead. It remains unanswered why you don't do that. Eric has a much larger role in that game already, the conflict between Max and Eric is more elaborated there.

Anyway, according to some posts here, there WILL be a option to get rid of Eric, but of course you don't have to. So everyone gets what he wants and no one needs to be told to play the original instead, for whatever reason.

About the father plot ... that would make sense, we already have the premisse that he planted a cam in the house. But no, so far I didn't read anything about that.

Yeah, your right, the dev has never said anything about the father. I'm on his patreon, discord, and communicate by PM.
It's well known that I don't like Eric, and there will be a way to get rid of him in 0.07. But it may be best to wait until later to do it. As for keeping Eric in the game permanently, I don't think that will be possible. The dev has never said one way other. We do know however that there will be family porn movies. And the dev has said that friendship with Eric will end badly for Max or Eric. A bad ending for Max = game over.

 

[kelvinll]

Yeah, your right, the dev has never said anything about the father. I'm on his patreon, discord, and communicate by PM.
It's well known that I don't like Eric, and there will be a way to get rid of him in 0.07. But it may be best to wait until later to do it. As for keeping Eric in the game permanently, I don't think that will be possible. The dev has never said one way other. We do know however that there will be family porn movies. And the dev has said that friendship with Eric will end badly for Max or Eric. A bad ending for Max = game over.

Don't be naive, Eric is only in the game to prolong Max's involvement with the girls. The longer it takes and the more spicy scenes, the more the game is enjoyable when it comes to pleasure.
Nothing more, nothing less!

Want to make a game where you turn people upside down?
More and more spicy scenes, when you get there let it hit the beam. Give him something even spicier, let someone else do the drama behind it, and then take it all away from him. And when all seems to be lost give it to him again!

Eric is only there for that + saucy scenes, more horny for things you don't have, and more attempts to get it for yourself!

And when more time and more spicy scenes more horny for things, but tries and tries to get everything for you!

Now the game's producer needs to fit these saucy scenes and directions that people want.

1- I want Eric
2- I want Eric out.
3- I want Eric as a slave
4- I want to blackmail everyone.

There are so many ways to make things happen in a way that has a lot of spicy and horny scenes at the same time!

 

[maxbishup]

Don't be naive, Eric is only in the game to prolong Max's involvement with the girls. The longer it takes and the more spicy scenes, the more the game is enjoyable when it comes to pleasure.
Nothing more, nothing less!

Want to make a game where you turn people upside down?
More and more spicy scenes, when you get there let it hit the beam. Give him something even spicier, let someone else do the drama behind it, and then take it all away from him. And when all seems to be lost give it to him again!

Eric is only there for that + saucy scenes, more horny for things you don't have, and more attempts to get it for yourself!

And when more time and more spicy scenes more horny for things, but tries and tries to get everything for you!

Now the game's producer needs to fit these saucy scenes and directions that people want.

1- I want Eric
2- I want Eric out.
3- I want Eric as a slave
4- I want to blackmail everyone.

There are so many ways to make things happen in a way that has a lot of spicy and horny scenes at the same time!

Naive, your delusional, do you think your the dev, are something. I get my info from the real dev. Aleksey90 is making this game, his way, not yours.

 

[kelvinll]

Naive, your delusional, do you think your the dev, are something. I get my info from the real dev. Aleksey90 is making this game, his way, not yours.

You got me wrong, I'm not saying that the developer has to do it the way I mentioned, but I wanted to explain why Eric is in the game. Just to prolong Max's development with the girls, and give more and more spicy scenes. So that the game is fun when you've got it all for yourself!
Do not mix things up and pay attention to what is written!

 

[maxbishup]

You got me wrong, I'm not saying that the developer has to do it the way I mentioned, but I wanted to explain why Eric is in the game. Just to prolong Max's development with the girls, and give more and more spicy scenes. So that the game is fun when you've got it all for yourself!
Do not mix things up and pay attention to what is written!

Oh ok, I see, so you know more about why Eric's in the game, than the Dev. Yeah that's not delusional at all.

From PM April 25 2020

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12:02 AM
I certainly can not do the development of Eric in the direction of Alice and Lisa (and I would not do it with joy), but this will mean that the player and Max, with any of his actions, will have nothing to lose and nothing to worry about, which is not right. Max's actions or omissions must have consequences, so Eric's development towards Alice and Lisa, as well as towards Ann and Kira, will be whatever you allow him to be.

 

[Nemo56]

There are so many ways to make things happen in a way that has a lot of spicy and horny scenes at the same time!

... and so little time to actually implement it. This is not a big production company. If you want all these options, you might not have to wait for months, but for years to the next major update.

Maxbishop Thanks for the reminder. I DID read about the bad friendship ending, I just completely forgot about it.

 

[Nemo56]

What I didn't like was knowing that Eric and Ann were educating Lisa without me being able to see what was going on, didn't you have that thrill of frustration? With this version I see what happens with the family

You could actually use the hidden cameras to see. That will also unlock memories in the extra-Section (for the extra-version of the game)

 

[fortuman]

So... october 0.7 january 0.7.1 my guess.

 

[maxbishup]

So... october 0.7 january 0.7.1 my guess.

aleksey90artimages — 09/05/2021
The second half of September, if the translation and testing do not delay us too much.

 

[Seraphi23]

A game without antagonist is boring, it's as simple as that. Imagine Lord of the Rings without Sauron. Or Mario with the castle & princess just a screen away from starting the level. Or anything Marvel without all of the supervillains, what would heroes even be doing in that case? Doesn't mean that Eric must stay, since defeating him is half of the fun. But frankly original game became boring quick after Eric was gone. Thus I hope Max will get some new challenges and enemies after Eric.

 

[tcotn]

You could actually use the hidden cameras to see. That will also unlock memories in the extra-Section (for the extra-version of the game)

i already knows for the hidden camera and use it, thanks
The thing I wanted to highlight is the fact that with the other versions of this game, we do NOT see what was happening in Ann's room

 

[kelvinll]

You could actually use the hidden cameras to see. That will also unlock memories in the extra-Section (for the extra-version of the game)

I was going to waste my time answering maxbishup, but apparently he didn't understand anything I was trying to convey. And even in the 2 messages he replied to me, he put phrases that I didn't even mention!

And yes friend Nemo56 you are absolutely right, it is no accident that I gave 5 stars to this game. For the simple fact that you can see what's happening on camera. It was already a huge step forward, something that everyone would love to witness. Even dying of jealousy hahaha

 

[Nemo56]

i already knows for the hidden camera and use it, thanks
The thing I wanted to highlight is the fact that with the other versions of this game, we do NOT see what was happening in Ann's room

I see. I misunderstood that then.

Seraphi23 Right now I am trying really really hard NOT to compare Big Brother to Lord of the Rings

 

[Shiva0067]

Alright.... since the discussion seems to be turning towards (EVIL Scum) Eric again I will throw out some thoughts (then go scrub my brain with Bleach and a wire brush). Again I'll use Spoilers because this is going to be LONG.

Spoiler: Views on the Original version

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Now that I have given a brief description of my thought on the original we will move on to THIS version.

Spoiler: Evil Scum Eric in 'Another Story' :)

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At this point I feel that Aleksey90 has taken the original idea and GREATLY improved it. For now I accept that (EVIL Scum) Eric is a part of this game, but look forward to him slipping on a Banana peel while crossing the road and being removed by a car. I like that I can avoid almost all of the parts I do not enjoy, while other people can enjoy content they like (that I do NOT).

I hope this wasn't to confusing or rambling. I hope that we can agree that this (while developing a bit slower) is a good game.

Just a thought.

P.S. Please join and support your local chapter of CCCBW (Chocolate Chip Cookies for a Better WORLD) today.

 

[kelvinll]

Alright.... since the discussion seems to be turning towards (EVIL Scum) Eric again I will throw out some thoughts (then go scrub my brain with Bleach and a wire brush). Again I'll use Spoilers because this is going to be LONG.

Spoiler: Views on the Original version

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Now that I have given a brief description of my thought on the original we will move on to THIS version.

Spoiler: Evil Scum Eric in 'Another Story' :)

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At this point I feel that Aleksey90 has taken the original idea and GREATLY improved it. For now I accept that (EVIL Scum) Eric is a part of this game, but look forward to him slipping on a Banana peel while crossing the road and being removed by a car. I like that I can avoid almost all of the parts I do not enjoy, while other people can enjoy content they like (that I do NOT).

I hope this wasn't to confusing or rambling. I hope that we can agree that this (while developing a bit slower) is a good game.

Just a thought.

P.S. Please join and support your local chapter of CCCBW (Chocolate Chip Cookies for a Better WORLD) today.

Maybe other people misunderstand me. But Eric is a resource with a purpose. It's very easy to understand what I tried to convey in my messages and most of them managed to understand I'm sure!

In no time did I say that the producer had to do it the way I was talking. Much less that I know more than the producer. However, the reason Eric exists for the producer!

All characters in the game are a Resource for the producer, which he explores very well!

It's even good for him to get to know the players' feelings, to understand how we feel. Because believe it or not, people get so jealous when they click on the camera and see Eric trying something with girls or getting something with girls!

Eric, for the producer, is obviously a resource!
It doesn't take a lot of intellect to discover something simple!
If Eric weren't a resource, he wouldn't put him in the game, it's that simple!

With him in the game opens the way to see spicy scenes and leave everyone with that jealousy inside you. But it's up to the producer to put the paths he thinks best for your game!

Everyone has their opinion and the cool thing would be if people would stop putting words where they don't understand and understand simple things like that!

And yes, it would be awesome if there were all possible paths inside this game. It would be something really amazing!

Just to complement the text!

 

[maxbishup]

Alright.... since the discussion seems to be turning towards (EVIL Scum) Eric again I will throw out some thoughts (then go scrub my brain with Bleach and a wire brush). Again I'll use Spoilers because this is going to be LONG.

Spoiler: Views on the Original version

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Now that I have given a brief description of my thought on the original we will move on to THIS version.

Spoiler: Evil Scum Eric in 'Another Story' :)

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At this point I feel that Aleksey90 has taken the original idea and GREATLY improved it. For now I accept that (EVIL Scum) Eric is a part of this game, but look forward to him slipping on a Banana peel while crossing the road and being removed by a car. I like that I can avoid almost all of the parts I do not enjoy, while other people can enjoy content they like (that I do NOT).

I hope this wasn't to confusing or rambling. I hope that we can agree that this (while developing a bit slower) is a good game.

Just a thought.

P.S. Please join and support your local chapter of CCCBW (Chocolate Chip Cookies for a Better WORLD) today.

Yeah, I like toying with Eric, as much as the next guy. You know like, throwing a stick, and watch him fetch it. Then take the stick back and beat him side the head with it. But all good things must come to an end, and like any rabid dog I'll put him down. Now, where did I put that double barrel.

 

[greenymph]

Shiva0067 I think you're embellishing the original game too much. Dark Silver can't write for shit, doesn't know how to tell a story, keep things interesting or make erotic situations which are the whole point of the game. Some would argue he doesn't even care, and i agree. Playing Glamour is attrocious, the characters just do leaps in logic that don't make any sense, and Max whole attitude is stomach turning even for incest lovers.
Would it be better with the character Eric? I'm sure it wouldn't because the author is the same. It would just be another shitty character.

Aleksey's version is way better in every way possible. I agree with you, being able to avoid parts that i'm not interested is a big plus. IMO i still think Eric is just an expendable character. The game would work in the same way if he wasn't in the game, since the focus is the progressively corruption of the girls. There's no need for a challenger for that. It's a porn game folks.
But i do understand that there is a significant base os supporters that like Eric, and i can accept that without any problem, as long as me -as the player- can keep avoiding to see parts that i don't want to see.
I think Aleksey has done a good job so far in that aspect.

 

[Nemo56]

Shiva0067 ... Aleksey's version is way better in every way possible...

I sure hope the new movie storyline will be very different from the old one because that one was boring as hell, only leading from one lewd scene to the next. Maybe that was because Ann is one of the most uninspiring and dumb characters I have ever seen in one of these games. While the other chars had some kind of agenda, for Ann there was nothing but: "It's a bad thing, I'm a bad mom, but our family needs the money and everyone else seems to be fine with it so let's do it.". There was nothing she actually wanted to achieve.
edit: corrected some typos.

 

[Krugger]

I'm laughing a lot when I see people fighting because of Eric. Is it serious that there are still people who stay all day talking about it? I don't understand how people get mad at a porn game. Can't be see another male NPC that many already started raging and get twisted. With almost 2 years of production, is it still on version 0.06? original BB had only 1 year and a half or two years to be abandoned and stopped at version 0.13 and in this game here, it looks like things aren't moving forward. Before it was bimonthly updates, now it's taking almost 6 months and with lots of bugs (not to mention the unnecessary grind).
I now see why so many games fail, because it is difficult to build an erotic and pornographic story with people who are complaining about having seen a male NPC and saying "it has NTR, I don't want it anymore". The BB's story was never really good, Max's character was never good either. What made this game attractive is because of the incest, and not because of the gameplay, the story, the character dialogues, the characters' personalities, none of that. It was because of the incest, the renderings, sex scenes, it gives form in which the erotic corruption was shown. Yes, Big Brother is a different game, a perverted boy who tries to seduce, flirt, corrupt and fuck his family at home, but at some point you're going to say, fuck this story, it sucks, I just want to see the scenes. Of course there's also the fact of the gameplay, which makes it fun, because it's a porn game, so whoever downloads a game just wants to play and not just see CG's. For fuck sake, fight over Eric? I think it's better to bury it, as it seems to take a long time for this game to move forward with updates.

 

[kelvinll]

I'm laughing a lot when I see people fighting because of Eric. Is it serious that there are still people who stay all day talking about it? I don't understand how people get mad at a porn game. Can't be see another male NPC that many already started raging and get twisted. With almost 2 years of production, is it still on version 0.06? original BB had only 1 year and a half or two years to be abandoned and stopped at version 0.13 and in this game here, it looks like things aren't moving forward. Before it was bimonthly updates, now it's taking almost 6 months and with lots of bugs (not to mention the unnecessary grind).
I now see why so many games fail, because it is difficult to build an erotic and pornographic story with people who are complaining about having seen a male NPC and saying "it has NTR, I don't want it anymore". The BB's story was never really good, Max's character was never good either. What made this game attractive is because of the incest, and not because of the gameplay, the story, the character dialogues, the characters' personalities, none of that. It was because of the incest, the renderings, sex scenes, it gives form in which the erotic corruption was shown. Yes, Big Brother is a different game, a perverted boy who tries to seduce, flirt, corrupt and fuck his family at home, but at some point you're going to say, fuck this story, it sucks, I just want to see the scenes. Of course there's also the fact of the gameplay, which makes it fun, because it's a porn game, so whoever downloads a game just wants to play and not just see CG's. For fuck sake, fight over Eric? I think it's better to bury it, as it seems to take a long time for this game to move forward with updates.

The question on my part was not discussed. I just wanted to express my opinion that Eric exists only to prolong Max's involvement with the girls.
With the time consumed by Eric causing him to present more erotic scenes leaving the game with that flavor of revenge or not depends on the person. But from what I've seen, some people don't respect other people's opinions and want to put words where they don't! Assuming something that didn't happen at any time!
The fact that without Eric or with Eric this game is very good, because in my opinion it is, and always will be, one of the best games created, not by the story but by the images!

I understood that the reason he was mad at me is that in my country the word Naive has a different meaning than his country. In what is a quality here, in yours it can be interpreted as a defect!

For those who do not know the naive here in my country, it means being simple, frank and sincere!
But he misinterpreted me because of the different meanings of both countries!

However Eric is something necessary in or anyone else, to give time and development to the game. It's a feature as I've explained it many times!