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kelvinll

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Naive, your delusional, do you think your the dev, are something. I get my info from the real dev. Aleksey90 is making this game, his way, not yours.

You got me wrong, I'm not saying that the developer has to do it the way I mentioned, but I wanted to explain why Eric is in the game. Just to prolong Max's development with the girls, and give more and more spicy scenes. So that the game is fun when you've got it all for yourself!
Do not mix things up and pay attention to what is written!
 

maxbishup

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You got me wrong, I'm not saying that the developer has to do it the way I mentioned, but I wanted to explain why Eric is in the game. Just to prolong Max's development with the girls, and give more and more spicy scenes. So that the game is fun when you've got it all for yourself!
Do not mix things up and pay attention to what is written!
Oh ok, I see, so you know more about why Eric's in the game, than the Dev. Yeah that's not delusional at all. :unsure:

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I certainly can not do the development of Eric in the direction of Alice and Lisa (and I would not do it with joy), but this will mean that the player and Max, with any of his actions, will have nothing to lose and nothing to worry about, which is not right. Max's actions or omissions must have consequences, so Eric's development towards Alice and Lisa, as well as towards Ann and Kira, will be whatever you allow him to be.
 
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Nemo56

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There are so many ways to make things happen in a way that has a lot of spicy and horny scenes at the same time!
... and so little time to actually implement it. This is not a big production company. If you want all these options, you might not have to wait for months, but for years to the next major update.

Maxbishop Thanks for the reminder. I DID read about the bad friendship ending, I just completely forgot about it.
 
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Nemo56

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What I didn't like was knowing that Eric and Ann were educating Lisa without me being able to see what was going on, didn't you have that thrill of frustration? With this version I see what happens with the family :)
You could actually use the hidden cameras to see. That will also unlock memories in the extra-Section (for the extra-version of the game)
 
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Seraphi23

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A game without antagonist is boring, it's as simple as that. Imagine Lord of the Rings without Sauron. Or Mario with the castle & princess just a screen away from starting the level. Or anything Marvel without all of the supervillains, what would heroes even be doing in that case? Doesn't mean that Eric must stay, since defeating him is half of the fun. But frankly original game became boring quick after Eric was gone. Thus I hope Max will get some new challenges and enemies after Eric.
 

tcotn

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You could actually use the hidden cameras to see. That will also unlock memories in the extra-Section (for the extra-version of the game)
i already knows for the hidden camera and use it, thanks
The thing I wanted to highlight is the fact that with the other versions of this game, we do NOT see what was happening in Ann's room
 

kelvinll

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You could actually use the hidden cameras to see. That will also unlock memories in the extra-Section (for the extra-version of the game)

I was going to waste my time answering maxbishup, but apparently he didn't understand anything I was trying to convey. And even in the 2 messages he replied to me, he put phrases that I didn't even mention!

And yes friend Nemo56 you are absolutely right, it is no accident that I gave 5 stars to this game. For the simple fact that you can see what's happening on camera. It was already a huge step forward, something that everyone would love to witness. Even dying of jealousy hahaha
 

Nemo56

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i already knows for the hidden camera and use it, thanks
The thing I wanted to highlight is the fact that with the other versions of this game, we do NOT see what was happening in Ann's room
I see. I misunderstood that then.

Seraphi23 Right now I am trying really really hard NOT to compare Big Brother to Lord of the Rings :ROFLMAO:
 
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Shiva0067

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Alright.... since the discussion seems to be turning towards (EVIL Scum) Eric again I will throw out some thoughts (then go scrub my brain with Bleach and a wire brush). Again I'll use Spoilers because this is going to be LONG.

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Now that I have given a brief description of my thought on the original we will move on to THIS version. :)

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At this point I feel that Aleksey90 has taken the original idea and GREATLY improved it. For now I accept that (EVIL Scum) Eric is a part of this game, but look forward to him slipping on a Banana peel while crossing the road and being removed by a car. :) I like that I can avoid almost all of the parts I do not enjoy, while other people can enjoy content they like (that I do NOT).

I hope this wasn't to confusing or rambling. I hope that we can agree that this (while developing a bit slower) is a good game.

Just a thought.

P.S. Please join and support your local chapter of CCCBW (Chocolate Chip Cookies for a Better WORLD) today. :)
 

kelvinll

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Alright.... since the discussion seems to be turning towards (EVIL Scum) Eric again I will throw out some thoughts (then go scrub my brain with Bleach and a wire brush). Again I'll use Spoilers because this is going to be LONG.

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Now that I have given a brief description of my thought on the original we will move on to THIS version. :)

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At this point I feel that Aleksey90 has taken the original idea and GREATLY improved it. For now I accept that (EVIL Scum) Eric is a part of this game, but look forward to him slipping on a Banana peel while crossing the road and being removed by a car. :) I like that I can avoid almost all of the parts I do not enjoy, while other people can enjoy content they like (that I do NOT).

I hope this wasn't to confusing or rambling. I hope that we can agree that this (while developing a bit slower) is a good game.

Just a thought.

P.S. Please join and support your local chapter of CCCBW (Chocolate Chip Cookies for a Better WORLD) today. :)


Maybe other people misunderstand me. But Eric is a resource with a purpose. It's very easy to understand what I tried to convey in my messages and most of them managed to understand I'm sure!

In no time did I say that the producer had to do it the way I was talking. Much less that I know more than the producer. However, the reason Eric exists for the producer!

All characters in the game are a Resource for the producer, which he explores very well!

It's even good for him to get to know the players' feelings, to understand how we feel. Because believe it or not, people get so jealous when they click on the camera and see Eric trying something with girls or getting something with girls!

Eric, for the producer, is obviously a resource!
It doesn't take a lot of intellect to discover something simple!
If Eric weren't a resource, he wouldn't put him in the game, it's that simple!

With him in the game opens the way to see spicy scenes and leave everyone with that jealousy inside you. But it's up to the producer to put the paths he thinks best for your game!

Everyone has their opinion and the cool thing would be if people would stop putting words where they don't understand and understand simple things like that!

And yes, it would be awesome if there were all possible paths inside this game. It would be something really amazing!

Just to complement the text!
 

maxbishup

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Alright.... since the discussion seems to be turning towards (EVIL Scum) Eric again I will throw out some thoughts (then go scrub my brain with Bleach and a wire brush). Again I'll use Spoilers because this is going to be LONG.

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Now that I have given a brief description of my thought on the original we will move on to THIS version. :)

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At this point I feel that Aleksey90 has taken the original idea and GREATLY improved it. For now I accept that (EVIL Scum) Eric is a part of this game, but look forward to him slipping on a Banana peel while crossing the road and being removed by a car. :) I like that I can avoid almost all of the parts I do not enjoy, while other people can enjoy content they like (that I do NOT).

I hope this wasn't to confusing or rambling. I hope that we can agree that this (while developing a bit slower) is a good game.

Just a thought.

P.S. Please join and support your local chapter of CCCBW (Chocolate Chip Cookies for a Better WORLD) today. :)
Yeah, I like toying with Eric, as much as the next guy. You know like, throwing a stick, and watch him fetch it. Then take the stick back and beat him side the head with it. But all good things must come to an end, and like any rabid dog I'll put him down. Now, where did I put that double barrel. :)
 

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Shiva0067 I think you're embellishing the original game too much. Dark Silver can't write for shit, doesn't know how to tell a story, keep things interesting or make erotic situations which are the whole point of the game. Some would argue he doesn't even care, and i agree. Playing Glamour is attrocious, the characters just do leaps in logic that don't make any sense, and Max whole attitude is stomach turning even for incest lovers.
Would it be better with the character Eric? I'm sure it wouldn't because the author is the same. It would just be another shitty character.

Aleksey's version is way better in every way possible. I agree with you, being able to avoid parts that i'm not interested is a big plus. IMO i still think Eric is just an expendable character. The game would work in the same way if he wasn't in the game, since the focus is the progressively corruption of the girls. There's no need for a challenger for that. It's a porn game folks.
But i do understand that there is a significant base os supporters that like Eric, and i can accept that without any problem, as long as me -as the player- can keep avoiding to see parts that i don't want to see.
I think Aleksey has done a good job so far in that aspect.
 

Nemo56

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Shiva0067 ... Aleksey's version is way better in every way possible...
I sure hope the new movie storyline will be very different from the old one because that one was boring as hell, only leading from one lewd scene to the next. Maybe that was because Ann is one of the most uninspiring and dumb characters I have ever seen in one of these games. While the other chars had some kind of agenda, for Ann there was nothing but: "It's a bad thing, I'm a bad mom, but our family needs the money and everyone else seems to be fine with it so let's do it.". There was nothing she actually wanted to achieve.
edit: corrected some typos.
 
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Krugger

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I'm laughing a lot when I see people fighting because of Eric. Is it serious that there are still people who stay all day talking about it? I don't understand how people get mad at a porn game. Can't be see another male NPC that many already started raging and get twisted. With almost 2 years of production, is it still on version 0.06? original BB had only 1 year and a half or two years to be abandoned and stopped at version 0.13 and in this game here, it looks like things aren't moving forward. Before it was bimonthly updates, now it's taking almost 6 months and with lots of bugs (not to mention the unnecessary grind).
I now see why so many games fail, because it is difficult to build an erotic and pornographic story with people who are complaining about having seen a male NPC and saying "it has NTR, I don't want it anymore". The BB's story was never really good, Max's character was never good either. What made this game attractive is because of the incest, and not because of the gameplay, the story, the character dialogues, the characters' personalities, none of that. It was because of the incest, the renderings, sex scenes, it gives form in which the erotic corruption was shown. Yes, Big Brother is a different game, a perverted boy who tries to seduce, flirt, corrupt and fuck his family at home, but at some point you're going to say, fuck this story, it sucks, I just want to see the scenes. Of course there's also the fact of the gameplay, which makes it fun, because it's a porn game, so whoever downloads a game just wants to play and not just see CG's. For fuck sake, fight over Eric? I think it's better to bury it, as it seems to take a long time for this game to move forward with updates.
 
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kelvinll

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I'm laughing a lot when I see people fighting because of Eric. Is it serious that there are still people who stay all day talking about it? I don't understand how people get mad at a porn game. Can't be see another male NPC that many already started raging and get twisted. With almost 2 years of production, is it still on version 0.06? original BB had only 1 year and a half or two years to be abandoned and stopped at version 0.13 and in this game here, it looks like things aren't moving forward. Before it was bimonthly updates, now it's taking almost 6 months and with lots of bugs (not to mention the unnecessary grind).
I now see why so many games fail, because it is difficult to build an erotic and pornographic story with people who are complaining about having seen a male NPC and saying "it has NTR, I don't want it anymore". The BB's story was never really good, Max's character was never good either. What made this game attractive is because of the incest, and not because of the gameplay, the story, the character dialogues, the characters' personalities, none of that. It was because of the incest, the renderings, sex scenes, it gives form in which the erotic corruption was shown. Yes, Big Brother is a different game, a perverted boy who tries to seduce, flirt, corrupt and fuck his family at home, but at some point you're going to say, fuck this story, it sucks, I just want to see the scenes. Of course there's also the fact of the gameplay, which makes it fun, because it's a porn game, so whoever downloads a game just wants to play and not just see CG's. For fuck sake, fight over Eric? I think it's better to bury it, as it seems to take a long time for this game to move forward with updates.

The question on my part was not discussed. I just wanted to express my opinion that Eric exists only to prolong Max's involvement with the girls.
With the time consumed by Eric causing him to present more erotic scenes leaving the game with that flavor of revenge or not depends on the person. But from what I've seen, some people don't respect other people's opinions and want to put words where they don't! Assuming something that didn't happen at any time!
The fact that without Eric or with Eric this game is very good, because in my opinion it is, and always will be, one of the best games created, not by the story but by the images!

I understood that the reason he was mad at me is that in my country the word Naive has a different meaning than his country. In what is a quality here, in yours it can be interpreted as a defect!

For those who do not know the naive here in my country, it means being simple, frank and sincere!
But he misinterpreted me because of the different meanings of both countries!

However Eric is something necessary in or anyone else, to give time and development to the game. It's a feature as I've explained it many times!
 

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I was going to waste my time answering maxbishup, but apparently he didn't understand anything I was trying to convey. And even in the 2 messages he replied to me, he put phrases that I didn't even mention!

And yes friend Nemo56 you are absolutely right, it is no accident that I gave 5 stars to this game. For the simple fact that you can see what's happening on camera. It was already a huge step forward, something that everyone would love to witness. Even dying of jealousy hahaha
No point trying to communicate with that person. They spend way too much time on this forum RP'ing and talking about killing fictional in game characters as if they are real. Only thing he is good for is leaking patreon images.
 
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Shiva0067

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The question on my part was not discussed. I just wanted to express my opinion that Eric exists only to prolong Max's involvement with the girls.
With the time consumed by Eric causing him to present more erotic scenes leaving the game with that flavor of revenge or not depends on the person. But from what I've seen, some people don't respect other people's opinions and want to put words where they don't! Assuming something that didn't happen at any time!
The fact that without Eric or with Eric this game is very good, because in my opinion it is, and always will be, one of the best games created, not by the story but by the images!
You say that The purpose of (EVIL Scum) Eric is to PROLONG the involvement of Max with the ladies. I will have to disagree with you on that. My position is that in the original version of this game the PRIMARY purpose of the outside characters (Eric, Kate, Olivia and the characters in her story) were to delay or even PREVENT the involvement of Max with the ladies (beyond peeking). A secondary purpose of these characters was to allow LEWD scenes to be added, WITHOUT Max doing anything beyond watching. This resulted in an 'INCEST' game with NO incest, until MAJOR changes were made (Removing Eric and Olivia's boyfriend, as well as shifts in the relationship with Alice (and Kate) to allow Max to participate).

In this version these characters seem to be a path to allow some variety that would be difficult (or impossible) to provide with the limited 'Resources' the 5 people living in the house present. How could Max peek on some guy doing naughty things with Ann/Mom if we didn't have some other guy?? Which is harder to develop, Olivia the nudist/naturist influencing Lisa (and maybe others), or spending a LONG time getting Max to do it?? BDSM with Alice would need a LOT of work and time, or you have her in a relationship that already has this (and has the bonus of Lesbian content). Yes, (EVIL Scum) Eric IS a resource. Was he NEEDED in the original or this version?? I feel that he was (and is) NOT needed. Other people think he was (and is). This version provides BOTH options with limited overlap, so I feel it is MUCH better than the original.

You say that (EVIL Scum) Eric was (and is) a resource, well yes ALL the characters in a story are resources to be used in telling a story. Bilbo was a resource used to give a point of view in the Hobbit. Connor Macleod (and the Kurgan) were resources used to show a battle between good and evil in the original Highlander movie. Heck the origins of 'Transporters' in Star Trek was the LACK of resources (The Shuttle Craft models were LATE, and characters needed to be sent to a planet). Also, Mary Poppins was a resource to tell whatever that story was telling us. :) If we use your point of characters as resources then MY point is dealing with how GOOD or BAD those resources have been (and are being) used. My posts (I hope) are NOT a failure to respect the opinions of others, rather they are an attempt so show other possible points of view. Do I agree with your views.. not really. Do I accept that they are your opinions (that others might share).. YES.

As I posted above the original game was in many ways a MESS. Yes greenymph I do agree with you that the writing by DS was NOT good. I will even go further to again point out how inconsistent the focus of the story was with changes from incest, to peeking, to 'Saving the ladies from outsiders', bac to incest, to peeking, to making Porn movies, and more. Heck, there is the confusing part with Alice being a BITCH that becomes more friendly (and almost loving), then suddenly becoming the bitch again and Max almost needing to start over.

The original game DID have something compelling at it's core (that was poorly expressed) which is why so many people are still looking for a better version (and conclusion). THIS game is taking that foundation or core and I feel doing a MUCH better job of presenting it. Have I embellished the original somewhat??? Maybe yes, since it was the game that brought me here. :)

Ok, this (as many of my posts) has gotten VERY long. I hope that this has presented my ideas and will NOT be seen by others as ignoring theirs. Unless you are an EVIL Oatmeal Raisin lover.. then I say.. Neener-neener. :)

Just some thoughts.
 
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kelvinll

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You say that The purpose of (EVIL Scum) Eric is to PROLONG the involvement of Max with the ladies. I will have to disagree with you on that. My position is that in the original version of this game the PRIMARY purpose of the outside characters (Eric, Kate, Olivia and the characters in her story) were to delay or even PREVENT the involvement of Max with the ladies (beyond peeking). A secondary purpose of these characters was to allow LEWD scenes to be added, WITHOUT Max doing anything beyond watching. This resulted in an 'INCEST' game with NO incest, until MAJOR changes were made (Removing Eric and Olivia's boyfriend, as well as shifts in the relationship with Alice (and Kate) to allow Max to participate).

In this version these characters seem to be a path to allow some variety that would be difficult (or impossible) to provide with the limited 'Resources' the 5 people living in the house present. How could Max peek on some guy doing naughty things with Ann/Mom if we didn't have some other guy?? Which is harder to develop, Olivia the nudist/naturist influencing Lisa (and maybe others), or spending a LONG time getting Max to do it?? BDSM with Alice would need a LOT of work and time, or you have her in a relationship that already has this (and has the bonus of Lesbian content). Yes, (EVIL Scum) Eric IS a resource. Was he NEEDED in the original or this version?? I feel that he was (and is) NOT needed. Other people think he was (and is). This version provides BOTH options with limited overlap, so I feel it is MUCH better than the original.

You say that (EVIL Scum) Eric was (and is) a resource, well yes ALL the characters in a story are resources to be used in telling a story. Bilbo was a resource used to give a point of view in the Hobbit. Connor Macleod (and the Kurgan) were resources used to show a battle between good and evil in the original Highlander movie. Heck the origins of 'Transporters' in Star Trek was the LACK of resources (The Shuttle Craft models were LATE, and characters needed to be sent to a planet). Also, Mary Poppins was a resource to tell whatever that story was telling us. :) If we use your point of characters as resources then MY point is dealing with how GOOD or BAD those resources have been (and are being) used. My posts (I hope) are NOT a failure to respect the opinions of others, rather they are an attempt so show other possible points of view. Do I agree with your views.. not really. Do I accept that they are your opinions (that others might share).. YES.

As I posted above the original game was in many ways a MESS. Yes greenymph I do agree with you that the writing by DS was NOT good. I will even go further to again point out how inconsistent the focus of the story was with changes from incest, to peeking, to 'Saving the ladies from outsiders', bac to incest, to peeking, to making Porn movies, and more. Heck, there is the confusing part with Alice being a BITCH that becomes more friendly (and almost loving), then suddenly becoming the bitch again and Max almost needing to start over.

The original game DID have something compelling at it's core (that was poorly expressed) which is why so many people are still looking for a better version (and conclusion). THIS game is taking that foundation or core and I feel doing a MUCH better job of presenting it. Have I embellished the original somewhat??? Maybe yes, since it was the game that brought me here. :)

Ok, this (as many of my posts) has gotten VERY long. I hope that this has presented my ideas and will NOT be seen by others as ignoring theirs. Unless you are an EVIL Oatmeal Raisin lover.. then I say.. Neener-neener. :)

Just some thoughts.

You said exactly what I said!
Prolonging is taking Max's time and giving him only erotic scenes!

When you prevent Max from getting close to the girls, you prolong the time and development of the game. That's exactly my opinion!


I really think Eric was just needed to come up with a few stories that could be several times better!
Where a decent backstory could make life and decisions more compact!
Maybe with Eric you could get to a point where many people wouldn't dream!
But that's just my opinion. Since the last developer put a greedy man where he wanted everything for him!

And you are absolutely right, your opinion is very similar to my point of view, with more details and perceptions!
 
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