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Dzeris

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i will just upload my save if someone wants to tell me what i am doing wrong.totally stuck
Make sure that Max gets punished in private to avoid penalties in authority. If you know that Max will be punished at 9:00, talk to Ann at 8:00 and get that sorted out.
Don't miss two yogas per week. Why would you want to create problems with Lisa.
Pay 350 now to cover remaining bills. Pay 500 every Monday to help Ann with bills. You must keep Ann and Lisa happy while advancing the game or you disable some events.
Talk to Ann ("I know what I want") and get Max to do punishments. First public, then private. Max must punish both sisters at least two times in public. All "I know what I want" dialogs excluding the ones about Max punishment or not punishment must be done.
Punish Lisa in private several times until something happens.
After you learn something about Lisa and Kira does night lesson about it, practice with Lisa these new things
Try romantic relationship with Lisa.
Start putting spiders in Alice bed and invite Lisa to watch. Alice's behavior in spider killing changed after movies.
 
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Please help! I can not advance in a few points although i think i am advanced enough in others. I don't remember from the original version in what order things happen..

At this time i am with Lisa (as girlfriend) on the romantic part, going to coffee and fucking Lisa in the ass allover the house, the "hand" appears at night, advancing with Vicky, repeated fucking Alice during cam show, sex scenes with Alice, Lisa and Ann in the bathroom, friday comming from club repeated some 5 times (with fuck Alice), Eric is gone since a long time ( I used the cheat for that) Kira's second photo session also long time ago..

BUT:
- No photo sessions with Lisa, no porn movies, no filming for porn scenes..
- when i sit with Ann and watch TV i have always only the option to just watch some movie not a porn or other options. Since the beginning of the game and does not change.
- the foot massage at TV on Alice does not advance also since the beginning. It's stuck at Alice touching Max's dick with her foot. If i remember well i should have her without pants but at this time in the story I don't get the smoking by the pool thing anymore where i can punish her to not wear panties.. Also not more the massage of Alice by the pool so also the story with Ann doesn't advance because Alice can't tell her how good Max is with massages..
- in all dialogues with Ann i have the option "Want to have some fun". Whenever i click it i get a single answer: "Sorry I'd better go" and this also since quite a while.
- the spider scenes at night with Alice also don't advance anymore after they reached the handjob scene which now repeats again and again.

Now it may be that i somehow jumped quicker on some quests and slower on others but i am really stuck.. scenes repeat all the time and apart from Lisa's romantic path nothing else advances.. I don't know in what version i am now (or should be). I know that kicking Eric with a cheat can create some problems but .. there must be also something else, and .. i could not stand Eric in my harem..

Is there a walkthrough somewhere with ALL the versions, from the beginning till this 0.21.017? I need some kind of plan an ORDER of what happens after what and what should be reached first in order to reach more.
 

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Please help! I can not advance in a few points although i think i am advanced enough in others. I don't remember from the original version in what order things happen..
"Want to have some fun?" option shows up before you have any events possible there. You need to reach 0.13 content with Ann working in the evening to get some events activated in that dialog. There is no story in those events. They only replay some events between 10:00 and 17:00.

Alice behavior with spiders in bed changes after movies with Alice.

What events you had with Kate and Alice?
 

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"Want to have some fun?" option shows up before you have any events possible there. You need to reach 0.13 content with Ann working in the evening to get some events activated in that dialog. There is no story in those events. They only replay some events between 10:00 and 17:00.

Alice behavior with spiders in bed changes after movies with Alice.

What events you had with Kate and Alice?
With Kate and Alice i have a repeated event where Alice sucks Max (on the chair) while being fucked by Kate with a dildo. I must give Kate weed to be allowed in. Although the weed opportunity shows as finished.. Olivia opportunity also started meanwhile and i can visit her home. Her mother also appeared.

How (or when) does Ann start to work in the evenings? What triggers that?
By "movies with Alice" do you mean watching movies with her or making porn movies with her? None of those happen for the moment..
Kira's last night visit to teach Lisa repeats. If i ask her to come.

Thanks for answering
 

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With Kate and Alice i have a repeated event where Alice sucks Max (on the chair) while being fucked by Kate with a dildo. I must give Kate weed to be allowed in. Although the weed opportunity shows as finished.. Olivia opportunity also started meanwhile and i can visit her home. Her mother also appeared.

How (or when) does Ann start to work in the evenings? What triggers that?
By "movies with Alice" do you mean watching movies with her or making porn movies with her? None of those happen for the moment..
Kira's last night visit to teach Lisa repeats. If i ask her to come.

Thanks for answering
Your descriptions do not add up. You are likely ignoring some talks with Kira or Ann and do not progress Ann's career.

Key places would be
* "I know what I want" dialog with Ann. All dialog options should be checked, except "Don't punish me anymore" and "You can punish me"
* 10:00-12:00 near the pool
* 3:00 on Friday in Ann's room and then talk with Kira about it at 10:00-11:00.

"movies with Alice" is making porn with her and Ann. You need to do movie about Alice skipping sex ed at school to change her behavior in spider killing.
 

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Your descriptions do not add up. You are likely ignoring some talks with Kira or Ann and do not progress Ann's career.

Key places would be
* "I know what I want" dialog with Ann. All dialog options should be checked, except "Don't punish me anymore" and "You can punish me"
* 10:00-12:00 near the pool
* 3:00 on Friday in Ann's room and then talk with Kira about it at 10:00-11:00.

"movies with Alice" is making porn with her and Ann. You need to do movie about Alice skipping sex ed at school to change her behavior in spider killing.
- I didn't get those talks with Kira and Ann.. would not have ignored them.
- By "I know what I want" i have only one option: "I don't want you to punish me. Ever!" Punishments are on and Max pays for private punishments and can punish the girls being "the man in the house".
- At 3:00 on Friday, Ann sleeps, I can't enter the room.
- Making porn with any of the women never came up. What triggers that?

I did use some cheats (get spider, get money, kill Eric, increase mood and relationships) and that may have made me not get some dialogues. Looks like I must replay it from the beginning and let Eric stay and touch them all and fuck Ann and Kira.

Unless you or someone else knows how to fix my game play at this moment and get those dialogues that I did not get.. Maybe push all relationships down in the cheat? Coz it seems i missed options from the time when the girls were not "Lovers" or "Advances".

I would need some advice from whoever used the cheat mode and had such problems.
 

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I would need some advice from whoever used the cheat mode and had such problems.
We had two talks so far without resolving progress. If you read other posts, you would see them being resolved in a single response. Post your save. I don't want to be debugging your problem with limited feedback as I would have to replay game again and deliberately use cheat which can mess up progress.
 

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Is there a Walkthrough for v 0.21.017 from the beginning of the game? Because i obviously missed some important dialogues and therefore some opportunities that come later are open and others that were supposed to come before are not shown.
 

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We had two talks so far without resolving progress. If you read other posts, you would see them being resolved in a single response. Post your save. I don't want to be debugging your problem with limited feedback as I would have to replay game again and deliberately use cheat which can mess up progress.
OK here is my last save. View attachment save185.zip
 

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OK here is my last save. View attachment 1040793
Your save is fubared. It had far more changes than just getting rid of Eric. Flags are not for relationship level. They are for tracking story progress. Changing poss. flags or momlust will break your game. You have progress flags that are pointing at events from 0.18 while having other related flag not set to same level. At the same time events from 0.17 are not done. Getting your save into consistent state will take too much time as some flags are not visible in menu. I probably would have to downgrade those flags into some sane 0.6-0.10 version state and hope that it is good enough.

Replay game from the start and do not mess with flags. You could try getting rid of Eric with cheats or just declare war with him from the start. Other parameter changes in cheat menu should not be used. Only money boost is safe enough.
 
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Yes that's what i feared.. Would it help if I downgrade now in cheats all flags to 0.6-0.10 and go on?
Or maybe you have a clean save from after Eric is gone in a normal way and before the porn movies start when Ann works in the evening? I just don't want to see that guy touching the girls and fucking Ann and Kira.
 

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Yes that's what i feared.. Would it help if I downgrade now in cheats all flags to 0.6-0.10 and go on?
Or maybe you have a clean save from after Eric is gone in a normal way and before the porn movies start when Ann works in the evening? I just don't want to see that guy touching the girls and fucking Ann and Kira.
Eric does not touch Kira, if Max goes to sleep before 3:00 am when Eric is in the house. He needs to stay awake past 0:00 only if you want to collect info against Eric and that happens around 1:00-2:00.

Attached two autosaves. Not in yoga path. On Day 132 Kira is already sleeping in Ann's bedroom and Max is about to discover what Lisa likes about private punishments. Your unmolested playthrough was probably before Max massaged Ann, but my saves in that stage usually have Eric.

Original game walkthroughs are at https://f95zone.to/threads/big-brother-walkthrough-faq-thread.2613/
 
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I can only see 1 autosave not 2.. I will try that one. But maybe they are both in 1 zip..

Yes, I have never seen Ann massages in my game play and yes the not yoga path should fit coz i am on Lisa GF path via jewelry which excludes yoga as far as i know.

Do I still have to eliminate Eric in your save?
I hope the porn movies, watching as also making them will appear..

Thanks a lot.
 

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I can only see 1 autosave not 2.. I will try that one. But maybe they are both in 1 zip..

Yes, I have never seen Ann massages in my game play and yes the not yoga path should fit coz i am on Lisa GF path via jewelry which excludes yoga as far as i know.

Do I still have to eliminate Eric in your save?
I hope the porn movies, watching as also making them will appear..

Thanks a lot.
There are two save files in a single zip. Eric is gone in those saves. Sold to his enemies. I go through massages before Eric is gone. I think in this playthrough Eric was busy in bathroom trying to figure out what is wrong with his friend, while Max was massaging Ann. If I look up autosaves from first 100 days with massages, you will find Eric and it takes less than one real day to get to day 100 in this game.
 

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There are two save files in a single zip. Eric is gone in those saves. Sold to his enemies. I go through massages before Eric is gone. I think in this playthrough Eric was busy in bathroom trying to figure out what is wrong with his friend, while Max was massaging Ann. If I look up autosaves from first 100 days with massages, you will find Eric and it takes less than one real day to get to day 100 in this game.
I started to play from your "start" save. Looks good.. I only don't know how far I am with Lisa in this save. Looks like i can do BJs and eat pussy with her but i can't fuck her in the ass yet.. And i can't go out to meet her at the school. Seems Lisa didn't ask for "romance" yet. Did she catch Max fucking Alice on webcam? However Vicky shows as "acquainted" which is a little strange if Max can't go out.

Are there any requirements at this time like for instance make Lisa's homework with or without mistakes, or others? Kira comes at night for sex lessons (if Max asks her to come) but it's already the last lesson repeated so I don't know where i am exactly on this topic. In which version of the game am I here so I can check the respective WT?

Thanks again
 

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I started to play from your "start" save. Looks good.. I only don't know how far I am with Lisa in this save. Looks like i can do BJs and eat pussy with her but i can't fuck her in the ass yet.. And i can't go out to meet her at the school. Seems Lisa didn't ask for "romance" yet. Did she catch Max fucking Alice on webcam? However Vicky shows as "acquainted" which is a little strange if Max can't go out.

Are there any requirements at this time like for instance make Lisa's homework with or without mistakes, or others? Kira comes at night for sex lessons (if Max asks her to come) but it's already the last lesson repeated so I don't know where i am exactly on this topic. In which version of the game am I here so I can check the respective WT?

Thanks again
Vicky is "acquainted" from day 1 in game. Max meets her after trying romantic relationship with Lisa. Lisa suggests romantic stuff after Kira teaches them how to use handcuffs.

You need mistakes in homework to do private punishments and learn things about Lisa. You also need homeworks without mistakes to keep her happy.

You are around 0.6.
0.7 got photo sessions and first movie
0.8 more movies
0.9 more movies
0.10 movie with Monica unlocks Side effects and Changing roles opportunities
0.11 changing roles opportunity events
0.12 lessons with Lisa and Ann
0.13 Ann works in the evening.
 
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Vicky is "acquainted" from day 1 in game. Max meets her after trying romantic relationship with Lisa. Lisa suggests romantic stuff after Kira teaches them how to use handcuffs.

You need mistakes in homework to do private punishments and learn things about Lisa. You also need homeworks without mistakes to keep her happy.

You are around 0.6.
0.7 got photo sessions and first movie
0.8 more movies
0.9 more movies
0.10 movie with Monica unlocks Side effects and Changing roles opportunities
0.11 changing roles opportunity events
0.12 lessons with Lisa and Ann
0.13 Ann works in the evening.
Thanks,
I finished "Hot Coffee" (Vicky fuck repeats), working on Olivia now.

Can I risk to raise the moods in the cheat menu or does that fuck up things again?

In what versions do these things happen:
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Thanks,
I finished "Hot Coffee" (Vicky fuck repeats), working on Olivia now.

Can I risk to raise the moods in the cheat menu or does that fuck up things again?

In what versions do these things happen:
- Olivia starts visiting and being naked at the pool - 0.17-0.19
- Porn movie with Alice that triggers fucking her in her bed - "0.10 movie with Monica unlocks Side effects and Changing roles opportunities"
- Advancing with Kira at 03.00 AM - 0.21
- Fucking Alice and Ann while watching TV or movies - 0.13. Once Ann does more than BJ keep doing it next to TV with "What are you watching -> I want something else" dialog.
- Ann in the kitchen in Apron - 0.13 as Max pushes Ann to do something after work on BDSM in the evening.
- Alice in the club and cheating - end of 0.18
 
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Heck, I'm stuck again..

I used Dzeris's save and everything went good till now.
BUT
After the porn shooting when Max fucks Ann's mouth, Kira says we should meet on Friday at 9 PM to watch the movie together.. but there are now 3 weeks since she said that and nothing happens at 9PM on Friday. All I got in these 3 weeks were repeated scenes with a small advance only on Alice+Kate in the night and on Olivia till this also stopped coz Diane has some problems with Max's dick size.

I make mistakes in Lisa's homework every day and let Ann punish me for that but that handjob by punishments also never evolves into a blowjob. And everything repeats and repeats and repeats..

Is this maybe a known issue? Is there a way out?
What triggers that 9PM meeting on Friday to watch the porn movie together with Ann and Kira? Kira is never in the house at that time on Friday..

This is what should happen:
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And here is my save on Friday evening, 3 weeks after Kira said that and it didn't and doesn't happen
View attachment save243.zip

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Oh shit, ignore the above.. after I ziped the save and loaded it again in the game.. now Kira does come hehehe.. after 3 weeks but .. she comes:)
I should delete this post but maybe someone else has the same problem so i let it here unless i'm asked to delete it.
 
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The Olivia quest shows as "to be continued" since quite a few game weeks. When will it continue (at Olivia's home)?
Also when does Lisa's photoshooting begin and when does Max fuck Lisa in the pussy? In what version? I saw the images and can hardly wait :)
 
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