Shirafune

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Yeah, for me the whole point of this remake is the potential NTR of Eric + Lisa, in the OG there was already Eric + Ann / Eric + Alice. MFM with those girls is nice and all, but what I really want is Eric + Lisa + Ann, and later MC + Lisa + Ann, maybe even MC + Eric + Lisa...
Couldn't have said it better, we never got any in OG game and now the remake made my Aleksey is denying the NTR too (which i don't get what would be the point of that remake but oh well)
 

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- **08.05.24**
Что-то в этом году одни только печальные новости. Все как-то и что-то не так. Завтра понесу материнскую плату в сервисный центр, точно не знаю, в ней ли проблема, но последний случай был с ней связан. Как долго буду без рабочего компьютера, не знаю.
Всем текущим платным подписчикам продлю доступ на 2 месяца. Так будет более менее справедливо, оценивая текущую работу.
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It's been nothing but sad news this year. Everything's wrong somehow. Tomorrow I will take the motherboard to the service centre, I don't know for sure if it's the problem, but the last case was related to it. I don't know how long I will be without a working computer.
All current paid subscribers will extend access for 2 months. This will be more or less fair, evaluating the current work.
 

S8tern

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hi there,
i am stuck a lil bit on the mentor quest line,
it is not reset, it is just not moving
i have a SC of the quest line so far,
so far i used the money cheat option, otherwise all gameplay is fair
Eric is out, i`m on the non NTR route, with detailed walkthrough
can anyone give me a solution? or advice?
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sampikinpax

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A game of no interest if you don't like NTR . when you fire Eric you have already finished the game at 70%. In addition the NTR version is much richer even in animation
 
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reidanota

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A game of no interest if you don't like NTR . when you fire Eric you have already finished the game at 70%. In addition the NTR version is much richer even in animation
I'm ok with NTR up to the point where the MC gets depicted as a loser or dumped by their LI. In fewer words, jealousy, yes, defeat by rival, no. Is there content here for me?

If there's the possibility of losing one or all of the LIs as a possible endgame, are there also other possible endings? It would be great to see a walkthrough, no matter how simplified, that pointed out the possible outcomes of your choices.

It depends on what your ideal is. In the original, you got rid of Eric and got all the girls, in this remake you have to share them with Eric and others
My ideal would be that the girls had their own agenda and had their fun regardless of the MC, including cheating after they'd "done things" with the MC. In other words, that NTR were not a just consequence of the MC playing a certain way, but unavoidable. However, the ultimate end-game should not feel like a defeat. The MC should not end a "third leg" in a relationship dominated by another party, nor lose their LI definitively to a rival. In the end, the rival would be put in their place, they could still be a prop but not the dominant element, or kicked altogether. So, would you say I'd prefer this version, or the original?
 

sampikinpax

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I'm ok with NTR up to the point where the MC gets depicted as a loser or dumped by their LI. In fewer words, jealousy, yes, defeat by rival, no. Is there content here for me?

If there's the possibility of losing one or all of the LIs as a possible endgame, are there also other possible endings? It would be great to see a walkthrough, no matter how simplified, that pointed out the possible outcomes of your choices.
I would just like the normal version to be as rich as the NTR version we feel that the developer is a cuckold :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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troube12345

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I would just like the normal version to be as rich as the NTR version we feel that the developer is a cuckold :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
I think the thing to discuss here is, are "NTR" and "Cuckolding" the same thing? Or are they different things? I think they are different. Because "Netorare" is a combination of two words, one of which means "stealing". As far as I know, there is no "stealing" in cuckolding. Moreover, there is mutual consent. That's why I think this game is not NTR but cuckolding. In this game, Eric does not steal, Max allows Eric. They make an agreement as if they were "shopping" on some issues. Max is not happy about this, but there is no stealing either. Actually, this game is stuck somewhere in between. It is not NTR, it is not cuckolding (of course, I am saying this assuming that they are two different things).
 
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I think the thing to discuss here is, are "NTR" and "Cuckolding" the same thing? Or are they different things? I think they are different. Because "Netorare" is a combination of two words, one of which means "stealing". As far as I know, there is no "stealing" in cuckolding. Moreover, there is mutual consent. That's why I think this game is not NTR but cuckolding. In this game, Eric does not steal, Max allows Eric. They make an agreement as if they were "shopping" on some issues. Max is not happy about this, but there is no stealing either. Actually, this game is stuck somewhere in between. It is not NTR, it is not cuckolding (of course, I am saying this assuming that they are two different things).
Cuckloading is where you willingly share someone you love to another person, here the NTR tag is for that you love someone and the villan (or Eric) takes that person away from you to then humiliate, share (based on different definitions). It kind of similar but cuckloading is where your partner will come back to you , but in this case of NTR she might not.
 

reidanota

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In this game, Eric does not steal, Max allows Eric. They make an agreement as if they were "shopping" on some issues. Max is not happy about this, but there is no stealing either.
here the NTR tag is for that you love someone and the villan (or Eric) takes that person away from you to then humiliate, share (based on different definitions). It kind of similar but cuckloading is where your partner will come back to you , but in this case of NTR she might not.
I'm a bit confused. Does your partner come back to you after what could be a chapter of humiliation, or does she not? Both your view points agree on that the MC isn't happy about sharing their LI with Eric. Does this mean he's portrayed as a pushover, or does he have reasons to do "business" with Eric? I don't mind spoilers. I can see there may be a fine line here between NTS and NTR and that's what appeals to me, but I'd like to know it there's some point where you can flip the game on Eric and either win back your LI exclusively, or at least end in a situation where you're in control (as in, not simply accepting because you find out you have a fetish for being humiliated). I think I read somewhere in this thread that the "deal" with Eric is one-sided, and you don't get anything out of it - is that the case, is it unavoidable if you take the sharing path, or can you play it to get some satisfaction from it in the end, come out on top, have your LI tell Eric she's yours even if you're sharing, something like that.
 

troube12345

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I'm a bit confused. Does your partner come back to you after what could be a chapter of humiliation, or does she not? Both your view points agree on that the MC isn't happy about sharing their LI with Eric. Does this mean he's portrayed as a pushover, or does he have reasons to do "business" with Eric? I don't mind spoilers. I can see there may be a fine line here between NTS and NTR and that's what appeals to me, but I'd like to know it there's some point where you can flip the game on Eric and either win back your LI exclusively, or at least end in a situation where you're in control (as in, not simply accepting because you find out you have a fetish for being humiliated). I think I read somewhere in this thread that the "deal" with Eric is one-sided, and you don't get anything out of it - is that the case, is it unavoidable if you take the sharing path, or can you play it to get some satisfaction from it in the end, come out on top, have your LI tell Eric she's yours even if you're sharing, something like that.
If you have never played/heard of it, this post will contain SPOILERS.

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It goes like this, Max (MC) learns Eric's secrets that could darken his life. The game then offers us 3 options (actually 2);

1- Report Eric to the mafia he had problems with before and have him leave the house and even the city.
2- Give Eric's secrets to the woman who runs the nightclub (Kate's mother) and have her use him as a slave there, thus preventing him from appearing before us.
3- Reaching an agreement with Eric.

While the first two options allow us to get rid of Eric, the third option opens the way for NTR. The real problem here is that MC is the strong side when making an agreement, MC is the one with the trump card, but Eric is the one who gets everything he wants in the game. Once you enter the NTR path, you cannot go back. You have to do what Eric wants to advance the game. However, MC is the one who blackmails. Before fully entering the NTR path, Eric, although it is known that he is in a relationship with Anna, is trying to get the women in the house, in other words, steal from the MC as the story requires (by force or by seducing). In other words, he can be called NTR. However, when you choose the NTR path (i.e. when you make a deal with Eric), there is no stealing anymore.

First, Max demands that Anna get close to him sexually. Eric says that Anna will not accept this, but he says that he can arrange sex lessons. In return, he demands to get close to Alice. Max invites Eric to the broadcasts with Alice as part of this agreement. Since Eric, Alice and Max being in the same room at home would attract suspicion, they go to Eric's house. Later on, Max allows Alice to give Eric a blowjob, but they are not allowed to have sex. Then Eric breaks this ban, and Max submits as if he is not the one blackmailing. (Maybe this part can be described as "stealing" but Max can say you broke the deal and stop Eric from broadcasting, after all Max has the trump card. Since he is in a position to blackmail Alice, it would be absurd for Alice to act as she pleases.) Later on, Eric starts not allowing Max to come to the broadcasts at his own house, but as I said Eric is the one who is threatened with death....

This is the main problem of the game, it creates the illusion of a choice but there is none. The blackmailer is MC but the one who acts as if he is being blackmailed is MC. The only place where we really make a choice is when we decide whether to get rid of Eric or not. Everything after that is an illusion. After making a deal with Eric, we are not allowed to break the deal. We have to fulfill every request or the game does not progress. The side opportunities (this is how the game is called) are not independent of each other. The game always gets stuck somewhere. The path without NTR does not continue and does not contain animation. If you like the in-game graphics etc. you can also try NTR but as I said it is a more forced path. I think we should be able to get rid of Eric whenever we want and go the non-NTR path. However the producer did not choose to do this. Since there is an agreement, it is debatable whether it is really NTR or Cuckolding.

I wrote too much. English is not my native language, so there may be mistakes. I used translation.
 
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