Asstrreader74

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So what was you backup plan now that there is no hope on patreon? About making crypto website. Maybe you can look at they accept bitcoin and some other kinds of payment. (Content much wilder than BB, consentual) maybe follow their path. @DarkSilver
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i really do hope that DarkSilver will read your post
 

AkitoH

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Man, you really HAD to know that patreon was going to come after you, they came after EVERYONE but you, EVERYONE took measures to prevent patreon stick, some even took preemptive measures, I just can't believe you thought everything was gonna be hunky dory forever with you being one of the biggest creators on all patreon, and having a game that literally says in the title "Incest story of your life".

this subject has already been widely debated by users and devs, the measures are already on the table, I really hope you took the time to change the game while patreon was after DMD and DoD and everyone else, otherwise it was really stupid of you
Kind of a brutal way to put it, but it's not wrong. Necessary precautions should have been taken before the game was condemned by Patreon. It was never a matter of "if" in this situation. It was a matter of "when", and the fact it went under Patreon's radar this long is a "miracle" in itself.
 

JohnPonn

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Ok so this is from Patreons guidline rules. Read what they say here and give it a moments thought ..

For example, survivor stories or fiction such as Game of Thrones or Lolita are allowed on Patreon.
Ok. So according to Patreon it's totally ok to feature a story where a brother and sisters spend 7 seasons fucking eachother because this is fiction! Good to know. Now how the hell do they expain games like BB.. DmD.. DoD.. Wicked Choices.. MOTH and so on. Not fiction?? Do they mean to say these are all REAL stories made from REAL people??
Maby we should just tag these games with the label "fiction" and if Patreon whines we hire a laywer and sew there ass to hell and back again because they openly admit fictional incest is ok. It's right there in black and white ..

I just don't fucking get it. And every person working at Patreon probably have a web browser. They can ban a game from there site because it mentions incest and then go out to any of the thousands of porn tube sites and watsh free, legal and never debated material where people have incest sex in a hundred diffrent ways. But a naked boob if it's drawn or animated is a terrible moral panik offence?

I'm sorry for my dystopian outbreak but i really had it with all the religious bullshit that still cramps mankind from evolving beyond caveman stage. I hope a revolution will happen soon on the net because they way we're going the Trumps and capitalists of the world will soon dictate everything, and you can bet all forms of free speach will be a thing of the past when it happens.
Sorry.. Just had to vent. Have a good one all.
 

AkitoH

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Can't say I'm sad to see this go but it is unfortunate. Still though, if measures were taken prior to this, we'd probably be looking at the last preview pics for the month right now and debating the fuck outta it. Instead, it's 4 or 5 pages of Patreon/political/religious talk that will likely be wiped later.

There are some good second/third options among the clusterfuck of ideas and raging, so DS should take advantage if he still has that opportunity.

But if it is the end of BB, then I cautiously look forward to Glamour's reboot(?)
 

rockaducka

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@DarkSilver paypal might not accept people paying for adult content, but you can make a CS go server, so people can pay from there and you can resume with that income.
 

Corambis

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Ok. So according to Patreon it's totally ok to feature a story where a brother and sisters spend 7 seasons fucking eachother because this is fiction! Good to know. Now how the hell do they expain games like BB.. DmD.. DoD.. Wicked Choices.. MOTH and so on. Not fiction?? Do they mean to say these are all REAL stories made from REAL people??
Maby we should just tag these games with the label "fiction" and if Patreon whines we hire a laywer and sew there ass to hell and back again because they openly admit fictional incest is ok. It's right there in back and white ..
It's context, and even then it's not always enough to protect you. People have complained about the incest and rape in Game of Thrones, although it gets a pass because for the most part it's not glorified at all or fetishized, other than in the last season, but that's more distant incest than is normally portrayed.

I'm sorry for my dystopian outbreak but i really had it with all the religious bullshit that still cramps mankind from evolving beyond caveman stage. I hope a revolution will happen soon on the net because they way we're going the Trumps and capitalists of the world will soon dictate everything, and you can bet all forms of free speach will be a thing of the past when it happens.
Sorry.. Just had to vent. Have a good one all.
I've said this before, but it's hardly just the conservatives causing stuff like this to happen. The conservatives would be more than likely to try to block any adult content, or try to target gay content. I don't see them taking such a hard line against rape, incest, or underage characters alone. Opposing those last three are solidly and very prominently goals of the left, and it's become even more aggressive lately. It doesn't take too much thought to draw connections between the #metoo movement and Patreon cracking down on anything that even hints at rape. A conservative wouldn't define rape as broadly as a liberal would, or as broadly as Patreon does.
 

Walt Dee

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Chin up, if there is a will there is a way. :D Maybe if you could change the mom, sis and bro etc to them using their names. And do a rewrite of the intro explaining that you are all students at a home owned by Ann. Then have a patch, that revers it back to how it's original with mom, sis etc. That might be the easiest way? I don't know. Or have it locked behind a password that the players can type inn when they are in the menu.

Maybe you should take a look at what @a1fox3 said. it might be something.
Just found out MakerSupport requires real names. Prolly a no-go, then.
 

Walt Dee

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It's context, and even then it's not always enough to protect you. People have complained about the incest and rape in Game of Thrones, although it gets a pass because for the most part it's not glorified at all or fetishized, other than in the last season, but that's more distant incest than is normally portrayed.



I've said this before, but it's hardly just the conservatives causing stuff like this to happen. The conservatives would be more than likely to try to block any adult content, or try to target gay content. I don't see them taking such a hard line against rape, incest, or underage characters alone. Opposing those last three are solidly and very prominently goals of the left, and it's become even more aggressive lately. It doesn't take too much thought to draw connections between the #metoo movement and Patreon cracking down on anything that even hints at rape. A conservative wouldn't define rape as broadly as a liberal would, or as broadly as Patreon does.
As a former conservative myself, most of you fear that mindset without understanding it. Except for the more Jerry Falwell types, most conservatives I talk to understand the war against porn is lost, and tend to take a more libertarian view on it anyway. As long as you don’t try to use their tax money to pay for incest training or incest plays or something, most of them couldn’t care less what you spend your money on.
 
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pot123

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I know how this can be fixed.
______
From wherever point you are, continue through the day and sleep.

Then you wake up, but you're not Max, you look in front of you in the mirror. You're Eric.

Then you look to your left and see Anne and Kira.

You look to your right and see Lisa and Alice, all sleeping in your bed.

"Phew, it was all just a bad dream"

And then go back to sleep and continue from you left off.
______
It's not incest if Max doesn't exist and it's all just a dream.
 

Madbadbutajoytoknow

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Ok so this is from Patreons guidline rules. Read what they say here and give it a moments thought ..



Ok. So according to Patreon it's totally ok to feature a story where a brother and sisters spend 7 seasons fucking eachother because this is fiction! Good to know. Now how the hell do they expain games like BB.. DmD.. DoD.. Wicked Choices.. MOTH and so on. Not fiction?? Do they mean to say these are all REAL stories made from REAL people??
Maby we should just tag these games with the label "fiction" and if Patreon whines we hire a laywer and sew there ass to hell and back again because they openly admit fictional incest is ok. It's right there in back and white ..

I just don't fucking get it. And every person working at Patreon probably have a web browser. They can ban a game from there site because it mentions incest and then go out to any of the thousands of porn tube sites and watsh free, legal and never debated material where people have incest sex in a hundred diffrent ways. But a naked boob if it's drawn or animated is a terrible moral panik offence?

I'm sorry for my dystopian outbreak but i really had it with all the religious bullshit that still cramps mankind from evolving beyond caveman stage. I hope a revolution will happen soon on the net because they way we're going the Trumps and capitalists of the world will soon dictate everything, and you can bet all forms of free speach will be a thing of the past when it happens.
Sorry.. Just had to vent. Have a good one all.

Hear Hear!
 

malekisaman

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I know how this can be fixed.
______
From wherever point you are, continue through the day and sleep.

Then you wake up, but you're not Max, you look in front of you in the mirror. You're Eric.

Then you look to your left and see Anne and Kira.

You look to your right and see Lisa and Alice, all sleeping in your bed.

"Phew, it was all just a bad dream"

And then go back to sleep and continue from you left off.
______
It's not incest if Max doesn't exist and it's all just a dream.
LoL I hate you :D
everyone hates Erik now you want to turn us into him.
 
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DarkSilver

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Ok guys.
I want to say big "thank you" for all your comments. They give me some useful info.

Will provide more details about my next actions later today.
Next release will happens anyway, but looks like it will not happens on Patreon. Probably it will happens here. (It's not a promise btw)
 

Shiva0067

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Ok guys.
I want to say big "thank you" for all your comments. They give me some useful info.

Will provide more details about my next actions later today.
Next release will happens anyway, but looks like it will not happens on Patreon. Probably it will happens here. (It's not a promise btw)
TY for informing us about what is happening. Looking forward to the update and learning about what happens next.

Just some thoughts.
 
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TheKyu

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@DarkSilver
To be honest, you don't have to change a thing in the game at all. I don't know what state in development Glamour is, but you guys should really get a working release available on patreon asap. Next, set up a webpage for your studio and move Big Brother completly to it, providing your patrons with an access code or something like that.

You should still be able to do polls and progress reports about Big Brother on patreon, though releasing the teaser images could be a little more tricky.

It would be the easiest way to get going without having to butcher up the game.
This might work, you can make the patreon to support you instead of the game, then put a link to your website that would require some login or password, then you can grant acess to your patreons
 

strenif

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Thanks DS.

You might want talk with SR7 the creator of Something unlimited who had copyright issues. He didn't have to change the game at all and has sort of bypassed the patreon review process but just not putting any content or download links on his patreon page, keeping it all on a discord channel.
 
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