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I said it many times already. 0.13 will be finished and will be given to everyone as gift from me at next will
why not make Max's mother barren and all her children adopted? So do with Aunt Kira, well, or make her a childhood friend. Does not this solve all the problems? (Yes, we'll have to work, but it's better than shutting us all of our favorite game)
 

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DS has said that he doesn't want to risk that, since he doesn't want a permanent ban.
Does ban on 1 account matters? He can easily create another one and migrate his fans. Some (money-grubbing) creators use 2 accounts without any problems.
(Patreon wants to leech off Creators so they will never pernamently ban IP. Everybody can start with 2nd account)


why not make Max's mother barren and all her children adopted? So do with Aunt Kira, well, or make her a childhood friend. Does not this solve all the problems? (Yes, we'll have to work, but it's better than shutting us all of our favorite game)
Max's mother barren still doesnt solve the problem of her being his mother...
Though I dont see any problem in girls being his step-sisters and Kira childhood friend of mother.
 

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why not make Max's mother barren and all her children adopted? So do with Aunt Kira, well, or make her a childhood friend. Does not this solve all the problems? (Yes, we'll have to work, but it's better than shutting us all of our favorite game)
Max's mother barren still doesnt solve the problem of her being his mother...
Though I dont see any problem in girls being his step-sisters and Kira childhood friend of mother.
Step and foster relations are also banned.
 
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Does ban on 1 account matters? He can easily create another one and migrate his fans. Some (money-grubbing) creators use 2 accounts without any problems.
(Patreon wants to leech off Creators so they will never pernamently ban IP. Everybody can start with 2nd account)



Max's mother barren still doesnt solve the problem of her being his mother...
Though I dont see any problem in girls being his step-sisters and Kira childhood friend of mother.
Sex with an adopted son is not an incest, in fact
 

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People should read previous posts a bit. There is no real alternative to Patreon because of Paypal. If he'll leave Patreon he will lost everything. He can't mod or alter BB cuz Patreon is being harder to deal with and they don't want anything related to BB on their site. He can't put an empty site and develop BB elsewhere as he might be perma banned and he can't risk it. People should understand that BB is dead until real alternative for patreon will come. And it might be years for that. Glamour looks more than decent and I see no reason to blame DS for anything as it's clearly not his fault.
 

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People should read previous posts a bit. There is no real alternative to Patreon because of Paypal. If he'll leave Patreon he will lost everything. He can't mod or alter BB cuz Patreon is being harder to deal with and they don't want anything related to BB on their site. He can't put an empty site and develop BB elsewhere as he might be perma banned and he can't risk it. People should understand that BB is dead until real alternative for patreon will come. And it might be years for that. Glamour looks more than decent and I see no reason to blame DS for anything as it's clearly not his fault.
Donations can be set up through Stripe (paypal alternative)
 

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People should read previous posts a bit. There is no real alternative to Patreon because of Paypal. If he'll leave Patreon he will lost everything. He can't mod or alter BB cuz Patreon is being harder to deal with and they don't want anything related to BB on their site. He can't put an empty site and develop BB elsewhere as he might be perma banned and he can't risk it.
Why cant @DarkSilver continue releasing BB on different site?? Patreon doesnt forbid that... as long as he doesnt share it on Patreon.
(In real life its similar, your employer cant forbid you to take some part-time job on the side)

On surface his account on Patreon can be "doing nothing" or he can be doing part-time that Glamour thingy. Patreon cant forbid him to release some additional stuff in his private blog. Everybody is happy.
 

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Why cant @DarkSilver continue releasing BB on different site?? Patreon doesnt forbid that... as long as he doesnt share it on Patreon.
(In real life its similar, your employer cant forbid you to take some part-time job on the side)

On surface his account on Patreon can be "doing nothing" or he can be doing part-time that Glamour thingy. Patreon cant forbid him to release some additional stuff in his private blog. Everybody is happy.
Most important issue is perma ban he can't risk. They could easily call it violation of TOS if he would gather funds on their site for BB. Even without links. They said so in their message to him that he can't gather funds for BB on their site. Another thing is marketing. Majority of people wouldn't know about it sooner or later. This forum isn't as huge as people think. Most players aren't on forums and they pledge what they find.
 
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[/QUOTE]Not really, if anyone dies a virgin I tend to find that more sad than anything.[/QUOTE]

"de gustibus non est disputandum".
 

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Hello this is my first time here ... :) i really like this game ... for my small and inexperience opinion .. may be add another scene that prove Max not related by blood or change the introduction ... ha ha but maybe not that simple right ... Great job Dark Silver ... for me this is the best game i ever played ... :)
 

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Most important issue is perma ban he can't risk. They could easily call it violation of TOS if he would gather funds on their site for BB. Even without links. They said so in their message to him that he can't gather funds for BB on their site. Another thing is marketing. Majority of people wouldn't know about it sooner or later. This forum isn't as huge as people think. Most players aren't on forums and they pledge what they find.
You think that "not mentioning it on Patreon" will make people lose way to their porn? Seriously?!

As far as ban is concerned: His work on Patreon will (officially) be for that new game Glamour (or whatever). There is no hole in that. As far as his private blog or another (payment) site is concerned, thats none of Patreon business.

(Like I have said earlier, in real life no employer cant forbid you to get 2nd part-time job to earn more money. So there is no conflict in ToS.)
 
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People should read previous posts a bit. There is no real alternative to Patreon because of Paypal. If he'll leave Patreon he will lost everything. He can't mod or alter BB cuz Patreon is being harder to deal with and they don't want anything related to BB on their site. He can't put an empty site and develop BB elsewhere as he might be perma banned and he can't risk it. People should understand that BB is dead until real alternative for patreon will come. And it might be years for that. Glamour looks more than decent and I see no reason to blame DS for anything as it's clearly not his fault.
DMD's Dev won't go with the dummy project either. Too many haters waiting for them to make this mistake I'm afraid. And those who think DS will lose all of his supporters because of the incest removal are wrong. Sure, he might lose a good amount of patrons (the die-hard incest fans) but a lot will stay too, and he'll gain more in the long run (the non-incest crowd) and he'll be able to promote his game on different websites that support adult content but not necessarily incest. In conclusion, I think the removal of incest will benefit the devs in the long term giving them access to a broader audience.

Dating Ariadne has a huge following but the graphics are horrendous. Imagine if Ds or Mr.Dots would make a similar game. I'd like to remain optimistic and believe that there's a huge opportunity for the devs here.
 
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0.13 will be released without updater, with decrypted texts and images
it should make modders life much much better
Today is January 27, one year anniversary of Big Brother on Patreon. We had very productive year, our game has earned a lot of followers and we had a lot of plans for it in the future. But, unfortunately, Patreon has decided it doesn't want incest content on their website anymore. First we couldn't mention it in the description, then we couldn't have any adult content on our page for non-subscribers and now our game is banned altogether. And we can't cut out incest out of the game to unlock our page either, so here's what's going to happen in the near future:
1. We're still going to finish 0.13. We won't get any money for it and it's going to be free (you'll find it on the torrent sites, there will be links on discord and telegram, etc.). 0.13 is going to be released on time because a lot of players are waiting for it.
2. Big Brother is going to be frozen and 0.13 is going to be considered a final version of the game for now. We may continue BB development if we find an alternative to Patreon.
3. Our Patreon page is going to be completely reworked and restarted without Big Brother.
4. Our team is going to start working on our new project Glamour full time. You'll know more about it on our new updated Patreon page.
5. We're going to continue giving you regular updates. New screenshots, gameplay mechanics description, interface, etc. We love making adult games and we're going to continue making them, regardless of the temporary setbacks. Stay tuned!
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Well after 0.13 version RIP BB, they plan to make another game call "Glamour"
 

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You think that "not mentioning it on Patreon" will make people lose way to their porn? Seriously?!

As far as ban is concerned: His work on Patreon will (officially) be for that new game Glamour (or whatever). There is no hole in that. As far as his private blog or another (payment) site is concerned, thats none of Patreon business.

(Like I have said earlier, in real life no employer cant forbid you to get 2nd part-time job to earn more money. So there is no conflict in ToS.)
Not mentioning it on Patreon will make those who will visit Patreon unsure. Playerbase is on Patreon. If they will see a page for a different thing they wanted they won't pledge.
Patreon can do anything. As I said they specifically forbidden gathering funds for BB. Risk is too high. I know people are horny but when it comes to your life income you can't risk. If he would do so he would be most likely banned sooner or later and no game would be developed fo us.
DMD's Dev won't go with the dummy project either. Too many haters waiting for them to make this mistake I'm afraid. And those who think DS will lose all of his supporters because of the incest removal are wrong. Sure, he might lose a good amount of patrons (the die-hard incest fans) but a lot will stay too, and he'll gain more in the long run (the non-incest crowd) and he'll be able to promote his game on different websites that support adult content but not necessarily incest. In conclusion, I think the removal of incest will benefit the devs in the long term giving them access to a broader audience.

Dating Ariadne has a huge following but the graphics are horrendous. Imagine if Ds or Mr.Dots would make a similar game. I'd like to remain optimistic and believe that there's a huge opportunity for the devs here.
That's just how it is. If DoD will go down (I think it will soon) dev will most likely do the same thing. Dots said he'll develop 2 projects but it means more or less that he will dump DMD at some point when his playerbase switch entirely to new project. Business is a bitch and there is no place for emotions.
 

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0.13 will be released without updater, with decrypted texts and images
it should make modders life much much better
Today is January 27, one year anniversary of Big Brother on Patreon. We had very productive year, our game has earned a lot of followers and we had a lot of plans for it in the future. But, unfortunately, Patreon has decided it doesn't want incest content on their website anymore. First we couldn't mention it in the description, then we couldn't have any adult content on our page for non-subscribers and now our game is banned altogether. And we can't cut out incest out of the game to unlock our page either, so here's what's going to happen in the near future:
1. We're still going to finish 0.13. We won't get any money for it and it's going to be free (you'll find it on the torrent sites, there will be links on discord and telegram, etc.). 0.13 is going to be released on time because a lot of players are waiting for it.
2. Big Brother is going to be frozen and 0.13 is going to be considered a final version of the game for now. We may continue BB development if we find an alternative to Patreon.
3. Our Patreon page is going to be completely reworked and restarted without Big Brother.
4. Our team is going to start working on our new project Glamour full time. You'll know more about it on our new updated Patreon page.
5. We're going to continue giving you regular updates. New screenshots, gameplay mechanics description, interface, etc. We love making adult games and we're going to continue making them, regardless of the temporary setbacks. Stay tuned!
"
R.I.P. Big Brother

I am not really die-hard fan of any specific theme at all (incest, ...etc.), but I hate when some mind police tells me what can I play and what I cant. I am removing my funding to all guys who abandon their project just because Patreon said so.
 

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Hello this is my first time here ... :) i really like this game ... for my small and inexperience opinion .. may be add another scene that prove Max not related by blood or change the introduction ... ha ha but maybe not that simple right ... Great job Dark Silver ... for me this is the best game i ever played ... :)
I do not remember how many times such a or a similar proposal has been made.
It seems that the proposals are still repeating and not making a new one.
I think that you just have to wait for the development of events.
 

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You think that "not mentioning it on Patreon" will make people lose way to their porn? Seriously?!

As far as ban is concerned: His work on Patreon will (officially) be for that new game Glamour (or whatever). There is no hole in that. As far as his private blog or another (payment) site is concerned, thats none of Patreon business.

(Like I have said earlier, in real life no employer cant forbid you to get 2nd part-time job to earn more money. So there is no conflict in ToS.)
Patreon is not his employer, so employment law isn't relevant (and it varies from place to place in any case; see "at-will" states in the US). In theory, the setup you're describing is possible, but it seems like in practice, DS considers it too great a risk. We all thought the DoD/DMD unofficial patch approach would work, too, but it seems like Patreon are serious about this.
 
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