gestved

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I'm not saying it isn't normal, in fact if you get those feelings the creator is doing a good job, however you shouldn't be blinded by every feeling you receive abandoning logic.

That's the only point i'm saying, and I was editing my message a bit to show a bit more what I'm pointing to.
I get what you are saying, if you look at the story eric is only really wrong for wanting to cheat on Ann (is cheating even wrong in a porn game?) and because he is actually a con artist (which makes him really wrong). If you remove the fact he is a con artist he would be a MC better than Max

just for max be earning money exposing his sisters and mother and aunt makes him a complete scumbag in my eyes, there is also him not protecting lisa from alex and his drugged drink, if alex got to fuck lisa I would lose my shit at that point
 

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Out of pure curiousity, what is that porgram so many people seem to try that bugs there game? I see that question again and again about the screen looking weird and off center.
I think it is this one but was only up to v9.6 and the new one is for v.13
the screen looking weird and off center has nothing to do with Big Brother Image Tools.
 
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I get what you are saying, if you look at the story eric is only really wrong for wanting to cheat on Ann (is cheating even wrong in a porn game?) and because he is actually a con artist (which makes him really wrong). If you remove the fact he is a con artist he would be a MC better than Max

just for max be earning money exposing his sisters and mother and aunt makes him a complete scumbag in my eyes, there is also him not protecting lisa from alex and his drugged drink, if alex got to fuck lisa I would lose my shit at that point
One of the things that I have always liked is to try to see the same story but with the eyes of every different character, it gives a better view of the whole story and I find it quite interesting.

For example in most eroges that you follow the route of one character those are more painful for me to play rather than a game like this one.

In most games with multiple routes (one per female character usually) you will find that every single one needs help, however you can only enter one route and you leave the rest with their traumas and insecurities, I would truly have liked a secondary male character for each one that would give her happiness if you don't choose her. Just thinking about all the drama that leaves uncovered when you choose one route is kind of painful for me.
 

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Really your response seems that it needs more logic...

If you say that no one should hate Max because that's the way DS made him to be and didn't give us more options then what about Eric?, he made him a douchebag just so the player would find it easy in their hearts to kick him out, if he truly loved your mother and didn't want to fuck your family, being a good person would you want to kick him out?.
I think you are missing @a1fox3 point....
Both characters are nothing but complete scum...
And if that is an issue for someone perhaps their angst should be towards the person who made them both that way. Instead of trying to pick on and say he is better because he is less of a dbag.

As for the difference between Eric and Max, Max does love his family...Eric is a con artist and doesn't love anyone in that family just wants to fuck them while he cons them out of their house. He wouldn't even tell them his real name.

Max maybe a perv but the other is a crook. And it would seem you think wanting incest is more evil than being a crook.
I would disagree.

The entire game was mostly creep sex with very little love and no romance to be found.
DS has said many times he found it hard to put romance or love into these relationships.
 

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One question : I have seen that a picture of version 0.13 shows Lisa used a sex toys with Kira. Do we seen Max deflower his little sister before ?
 

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One question : I have seen that a picture of version 0.13 shows Lisa used a sex toys with Kira. Do we seen Max deflower his little sister before ?
That is not in the vanilla game and must be a mod.
 

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We don't know yet and I hope it will continue some time soon.
DS said that this is the end...... Big Brother's development is now officially over. We've finished 0.13 and now we are moving to our next project. I won't link 0.13 in here, you'll have to look for it yourselves.
 

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DS said that this is the end...... Big Brother's development is now officially over. We've finished 0.13 and now we are moving to our next project. I won't link 0.13 in here, you'll have to look for it yourselves.
I will take @TCMS word over yours any day.
 
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I think you are missing @a1fox3 point....
Both characters are nothing but complete scum...
And if that is an issue for someone perhaps their angst should be towards the person who made them both that way. Instead of trying to pick on and say he is better because he is less of a dbag.

As for the difference between Eric and Max, Max does love his family...Eric is a con artist and doesn't love anyone in that family just wants to fuck them while he cons them out of their house. He wouldn't even tell them his real name.

Max maybe a perv but the other is a crook. And it would seem you think wanting incest is more evil than being a crook.
I would disagree.

The entire game was mostly creep sex with very little love and no romance to be found.
DS has said many times he found it hard to put romance or love into these relationships.
Personally the feeling that I got while playing the game is that making Eric a con artist was just to generate an easy way to kick him out, mainly because fighting of his influence over your family until he is out of the house would have been quite a bit of work.

I would have liked more of a war between the MC and him and a bit of negotiating along the way, for example being able to limit him to only your mother by having him in a situation that he feels that your mother may kick him out of the house.
 

gestved

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I think you are missing @a1fox3 point....
Both characters are nothing but complete scum...
And if that is an issue for someone perhaps their angst should be towards the person who made them both that way. Instead of trying to pick on and say he is better because he is less of a dbag.

As for the difference between Eric and Max, Max does love his family...Eric is a con artist and doesn't love anyone in that family just wants to fuck them while he cons them out of their house. He wouldn't even tell them his real name.

Max maybe a perv but the other is a crook. And it would seem you think wanting incest is more evil than being a crook.
I would disagree.

The entire game was mostly creep sex with very little love and no romance to be found.
DS has said many times he found it hard to put romance or love into these relationships.
max exploits his family for money, and is willing to sacrifice them for sex, I don't know if he really loves his family, he never demonstrated that for me, all he wishes is to fuck them all, all his actions and interactions points towards that. Of course the same is true for Eric, which is also a con artist
 

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I would have liked more of a war between the MC and him and a bit of negotiating along the way, for example being able to limit him to only your mother by having him in a situation that he feels that your mother may kick him out of the house.
There is some attempts at negotiating from Max, but at those times Eric has him over a barrel.
It's possible to gain back some "territory" from Eric in a couple of ways, 1 blackmail and the other making him temporarily impotent for most of each day he's over at the house.

There is also the "ultimate" tool over Eric later, which safeguards all but Ann/mother from him, and lets you start (unfinished opportunity months before Patreon screwing with DS) to play him at his own game, although it does clash with the latter of the earlier mentioned "control" techniques to use against him.
 

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