troll822

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New post by Darksilver on his Patreon page about "Glamour" is COMPROMISE:

So, he is making a male protagonist along with Kate after all, there's some explanation, but here's the excerpt of it:
"To sum everything up: playing as Kate is going to be a story mode, and playing as mp is going to be side sandbox datesim mode."
"mp" = male protagonist
This is a shitty decision as it will take time from the game, which is already quite complex from descriptions. I expect a very slow progress in this one because DS is spread too thin.

Oh look, caving in to the whiners again, instead of doing what he actually wants to do. *sigh* Some people never learn.
That.
 

wizyy

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Oh look, caving in to the whiners again, instead of doing what he actually wants to do. *sigh* Some people never learn.
What he wants to do wouldn't bring him the same amount of $, or so he believes, so he opted for compromise.
Can't blame the guy, seems that his patron numbers aren't on the decline any more, but aren't really on the rise either.
 
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New post by Darksilver on his Patreon page about "Glamour" is COMPROMISE:

So, he is making a male protagonist along with Kate after all, there's some explanation, but here's the excerpt of it:
"To sum everything up: playing as Kate is going to be a story mode, and playing as mp is going to be side sandbox datesim mode."
"mp" = male protagonist
Later there will be another poll about male character, male character will become main route of the game, while female route will be abandoned. Later the game will be abandoned as BB because of low amount of patrons and DS will return to BB. Mark my word.
 

Wookie

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I’m stuck at 16/22 with Opportunities can someone please help?
With the information that you have supplied about the only thing that we can suggest is completing the other 6.

Have you followed the walkthroughs? ( )
Have you searched for answers to the areas in which you are stuck?
Are you playing the basic vanilla version? Are you using cheats/mods?
Without supplying some more information it is impossible to identify what you need to do.
 

bornsinner

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I looked at the patreon posts. This game is not on hold. It has been abandoned. Meaning we should not expect anymore developments for this game. The developers are full steam ahead for their new game. They semi support this because they felt that big brother was not the game they envisioned anymore...

Any further developments have to come from mods.

Man this is depressing. It's bad enough that there is no guarantee that patreon games would be completed, but Patreon contributing to that problem? Not just for this game. Other games are at risk as well. Superpowered for instance might have this problem as well.

Are there any decent competitors to patreon? I believe Swegabe, creator of Legend of Queen Opala, used offbeatr before but switched to patreon because of their monthly income. Kickstarter also has Drip, a potential competitor but has not released it for the public for months now. I don't see any other decent ones.

Patreon can afford to do this because they have no competition to lure customers and projects away. This is really depressing for porn games in general. I mean what would be next?

edit: Offbeatr also shut down too.
I guess this is one of those things that we all know its true (abandoned, not on hold), but no one will admit it. Hell, even DS doesn't want to admit it so why should we lol
 

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I hope i am not to critical for your taste, but your translation sounds realy cheesy. Take more freedom in your translations(I asume you translatet it 1 to 1. Use the words mom and son more sparingly. Nobody says "Sohn" in a direct conversation ( like in the 4th pic). Also things like Komme in Mutters mund. Just say "komme in ihren Mund".
Und gut würde ich im Deutschen im sexuellen Kontext immer mit geil übersetzen.
Aber insgesamt, coole sache dass du das machst.
Thank you very much, when I'm done I'll read and change everything again.
 

Firecracker001

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So sad to see the game has been cancelled. Such a shame, fantastic game. Hope they come back to it in the near future.
Everyone must also cancel their support. on the side of the DarkSilver . The other game may not be supported. He has the same job as he has with Big Brother. But he has to get significantly less money. The man throws two games in the market. and never finish both. I would not like that. When DarkSilver realizes that people are going, he'll think twice about BigBrother. But that does not happen if everyone continues to give money ....
 

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To be honest I don't want to hear about glamour anymore. Even if he goes through with that then what's the point? That game will be poisoned from the beginning. What you are essentially describing is two different games with the focus of one. Good luck with that. This 'compromise' is not a good idea.

Either stick with male POV or female POV. They want to do female POV and understandably, some patrons want to have male POV. This fear of losing patrons will damage them in the long run in term of credibility. The patrons will just be annoyed for not getting enough monthly content of whatever POV they wanted.

Big Brother was a great albeit unfinished game. I have no doubt they can make quality games. I just question their discipline. When people pledge money on patreon, they expect a finished game. If you tell them that you're not likely to finish the game they pay monthly for upfront then good luck getting your project funded. Sure Patreon threw a wrench into their project. But that's all it was. A wrench. They didn't destroy it. They could have easily went with Max being a transfer student or some BS like that. (Teacher's pet did that I believe)

They just decided oh better give up and make a new game. What's to say they won't do the same to this glamour game? I'm sure this game at the rate that it's going will no longer be the 'game they envisioned' either. Right now they have no credibility.
I do not believe him that Patreon said something. For what reason should you? There are X games with such a story. Then all should have problems now. I suspect that he is just lying, and no longer wants BigBrother. That will be everything. I do not think that there is another reason. With everything else I agree with you. and stand on your side. The donors must get a full game ...
 

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Everyone must also cancel their support. on the side of the DarkSilver . The other game may not be supported. He has the same job as he has with Big Brother. But he has to get significantly less money. The man throws two games in the market. and never finish both. I would not like that. When DarkSilver realizes that people are going, he'll think twice about BigBrother. But that does not happen if everyone continues to give money ....
In case you did not notice ... DarkSilver can't continue BB! Just read in this threat what happened!
 

Lotex

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Whatever game you play i think you should find the forum for it and post on that site. BB ended with v0.013 :p
Probably DMD, 0.17 was the last release for now I think.

What he wants to do wouldn't bring him the same amount of $, or so he believes, so he opted for compromise.
Can't blame the guy, seems that his patron numbers aren't on the decline any more, but aren't really on the rise either.
Not as much, but still dropping. They only have 82%, so my guess would be that 500-600 ended their pledge with BB.
 

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Not as much, but still dropping. They only have 82%, so my guess would be that 500-600 ended their pledge with BB.
It will be the next pledge that reveals the true numbers. It's most common to loose Patreons a few days before pledge. Now the news about BB is out so thoes in doubt will leave right before next pledge. This may be the reason DS announced the "maby" adding of a MMC later on. I can't say for sure but the comming months will decide both Glamours and BB's fate based on Pateron numbers.
(To be clear i don't blame DS for this. He has to make a living and thoes numbers is what he currently lives by.)
 

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I do not believe him that Patreon said something. For what reason should you? There are X games with such a story. Then all should have problems now. I suspect that he is just lying, and no longer wants BigBrother. That will be everything. I do not think that there is another reason. With everything else I agree with you. and stand on your side. The donors must get a full game ...
I too am skeptical of what DarkSilver says now as he lost credibility. I try to make my arguments with facts given by DS so as to be sensible. Regardless, I would believe DarkSilver's claim that patreon suspended his account. The reason being is that it would be easy for Patreon to disprove. If he told a lie and is dragging Patreon's name in the mud, I'm sure someone from Patreon would respond. So far, they are silent. DS is not a small account either. He's getting a minimum $11,000/month for his project. (Over 2000 patrons) For now, I would believe DarkSilver's claim until stated otherwise.

To that end, I believe project developers shouldn't rely on patreon unless they get full creative control. This is so damaging to projects in general. If Patreon doesn't like what you do, you're booted. In the end, while ignoring the patrons, Patreon has the final say. There needs to be competition. Przewodo is part of adultpledge, a competitor for patreon that wouldn't discriminate. It's not a perfect but any competition is better than no competition. (I don't know anything about payza or their commission rates)

Regardless of the whole patreon competition angle. What patreon allegedly did was throw a wrench into his project. I criticize the way Dark Silver responded to this wrench. In his posts he basically said he's using this as an opportunity to go do glamour as big brother is 'no longer the game he envisioned'. At the rate this new game is already going, I have no doubt that glamour too will have that issue. What's to stop him from quitting this new game as well? Right now he has no credibility and a track record of 0 completed games. (and after all that money as well) He could have changed up Max to be a family friend on vacation. (or some other bs) That way at least the game could be completed. The way DarkSilver threw away the game is disheartening.

Patreon projects are already unstable as it is. I've given money to projects before. I now have to think twice now because of this.
 

steamblower

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I'm looking to see if I have managed to see all of .13's new scenes. Has anyone got a list of what new stuff happens? Obviously make it a spoiler for those, less cheaty inclined.
 

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lol error

@zippydan
That may be everything. You can be right. But what should have been mourned? I guess now the part of the incest ... that's in almost all games there. Then they would have to change something. or even have to. but that's not the case. In the game "Adventures of Willy D", this performance is even worse than BigBrother. Of course, Incest is a NO GO in real life, that's for sure. But whether it's in a game, the mother is or just an unknown woman. If that is pretty. That's just a game. So I do not believe the Darksilver. What is there to play, then it should only meet him otherwise no one else?

He took the money. And will never finish a game. That's a crime for me personally! As already mentioned here. People have a right to a finished game. But if you continue to pay for the new project. they will be disappointed again. I'm sure. Darksilver has to lose money. And that very much. He has to fall under 1000 people. Then he will most certainly stop. Or go on with Bigbrother. And both are better than what the state is now. Whoever gives him money now? He is more stupid than the police allowed.
 
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