You know, I have always wondered if this was his initial intent. Because when I played this a couple of years ago, it really seemed to be all about this other guy dominating the family. I mean, if I remember correctly, the MC definitely came across as an asshat, with not many redeeming qualities about him. But yeah, once the other guy showed up and it was clear that the MC was supposed to just watch, I lost interest. Not my thing. It does suck that the dev had to completely change his vision of the game he wanted to develop, but maybe he should have pushed back more. I don't know. If I was creating something, I would do so that would satisfy myself, regardless if people love or hate it. As long as I am happy with it, but that's just me. And I am aware that money definitely does change things, but I have seen this happen to other developers when they give in to the public demand and their creation becomes a big mess. I don't know. Anyways, I wish the developer good luck with his next project.
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One of the tags on the game was voyeurism, which initially kept me away from it. Watching sex is about as fun to me as watching someone eat. I'd rather be more directly involved. Then I played it, and it started off as kind of a standard incest game with incredible renders before taking the sudden swerve with Eric. The game itself is called Big Brother, which has the obvious connotations of incest in this context, even though Max is only older than Lisa. But Big Brother also refers to the idea of someone who spying on you. There was the emphasis on cameras at the beginning, and spying on people. It does seem like Eric was mainly introduced so that Max could watch sex rather than participate it. At best, he was going to be given limited access to some of the women.
Max also is a complete loser. Main characters who leave something to be desired seems to be a staple in a lot of these games, but Max was just kind of pathetic. There's been a lot of discussion of how a better game might have been playing as Eric and keeping Max away from his family members. But I've already associated the game with playing as Max, plus without Eric there isn't the incest angle. Maybe if Eric had been the actual father rather than some random guy, it could have worked for me and others.
The developer made his choice of whether to stick true to their vision, or to give in to fan pressure. I think like a lot of developers they just didn't realize how much work their initial plan was. They also didn't realize that their interests differed from that of their current fanbase. And then when they did try to give their fans what they wanted, they had trouble getting it right. The only time they really did it was with the last update and Ann, but it was also when they knew they were done with the game I think.
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No.
Just use V3 to get started with then read v6 just for some info because to much has changed.
Then read all my mini walkthroughs and you will get to the end of the game.
Olive girlfriend = 2 nights a week of sex.
Lisa girlfriend = many sex scenes every day including mom sex all over the house at the end.
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Well its time to say farewell to BB being my starting page for F95 and replace it now with Ecchi Sensei. https://f95zone.to/threads/ecchi-sensei-valentine-special-bluecat.14927/
I still love BB but with it being abandon there is no reason left to keep it my first stop.
Ecchi Sensei has my main 3 fetishes and has great game play from the very beginning of the game.
(Incest, Kissing and Pregnancy.)
With over 13k post I would say around 10k are post here in BB threads helping others get a great experience out of the VN.
I will still help players with BB and my mini walkthroughs should help most to get the best out of the game.
Well I hope to see most of you who love incest, kissing and pregnancy to join us over at Ecchi Sensei thread.
I still love BB but with it being abandon there is no reason left to keep it my first stop.
Ecchi Sensei has my main 3 fetishes and has great game play from the very beginning of the game.
(Incest, Kissing and Pregnancy.)
With over 13k post I would say around 10k are post here in BB threads helping others get a great experience out of the VN.
I will still help players with BB and my mini walkthroughs should help most to get the best out of the game.
Well I hope to see most of you who love incest, kissing and pregnancy to join us over at Ecchi Sensei thread.
I have a zip file and I didn't. I have the latest version of the game but there aren't files in the save game folder.
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You must unpack or unzip the files before it will work as it should, you can not run the game from the zip file.
I have never unzipped any of the games I've downloaded but everything worked perfectly. BB worked too, my only problem was with the saves. Anyway thank you, I've unzipped it now and I hope it works.
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its rough as a dev though. especially for basically an early access game like this. I have been a part of games where the dev's refused to listen to the player base and at the end, the game had to shut down because they went with "their" vision. Sometimes its a lose lose situation.
A balance definitely needs to be struck. If the developer is getting overwhelmingly negative feedback from fans, there's a good chance they may be doing something wrong. But if you listen to fans you'll either be trying to please multiple and probably conflicting groups of people, or rushing things to get to the end that players want. I suppose being a developer is kind of like being a GM in a pen-and-paper role-playing game. If your players are complaining about how things are going, maybe your story isn't as gripping as you thought it was, or your clues too obscure, or your bad guys too tough. On the other hand, just because your players want +5 weapons dropping from every monster doesn't mean it should. Either path will lead to frustration for the GM or the players losing interest.
This is sadly an issue no matter how big of a developer you are. With developers like Bungie even, you can be listening to the community, and when you do that and make changes, there's always going to be another part of the community that will be upset. You can't please everyone. A developer once said something along the lines of, and I'm paraphrasing a bit here: If you see people arguing about whether or not something is balanced, chances are it is. I bring this up because I feel that it's important for small devs to take to heart. You can't listen to everyone, and you shouldn't.
Genuinely, Destiny 1-2 is a pretty clear example of this issue. When they've listened to fans they've been trying to please conflicting groups of people. They can make endgame harder/more grindy like the players that stick around want, that pisses off the casual fanbase, and vice versa. Destiny 2 has been a constant issue of going back and forth. You just can't please everyone, so don't try. Stick to what you believe in your vision, and unless something is overwhelmingly negative by everyone, or a glitch,, don't worry about it.
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err...i don't think i have enough life time to read the whole thing and i do not know if anyone still looks at this thread or is willing to respond but I'll ask anyway. The last version i played was something like 0.6 and back them this game was like a blue-balls-grind-simulator, and my question is:
1. Its still grind as fuck?
2. Does the MC fucks her mom?
3. is it worth playing even if its abandoned?
4. why the hell he abandoned this project?
1. Its still grind as fuck?
2. Does the MC fucks her mom?
3. is it worth playing even if its abandoned?
4. why the hell he abandoned this project?
I highly recommend playing this game, you will find a lot of surprises ... obviously I don't want to spoil the taste of finding out what will happen but what you think and what you would like to have happened and the end of the game is beyond your imagination ... then I wish you good luck
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1. Yes, but it is fun now.
2. Yes as long as you have Lisa as your girlfriend and not Olivia, Olivia content ended in v.10 and all new content in v.11, v.12 and v.13 is only for Lisa GF path including fucking mom.
3. Yes, yes it is very much so.
4. DS is a stupid shit because he wanted to.
(((Make sure to get Lisa spanked right after you offer her free help with homework, this will avoid the game breaking bug.)))
Post 1 and 2 in this thread has all the info you need to complete this VN.
After playing all of this and you get to the end of all content then and only then you should play "Lisa's Special Day"
https://f95zone.to/threads/lisas-special-day-mobum.10883/
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I highly recommend playing this game, you will find a lot of surprises ... obviously I don't want to spoil the taste of finding out what will happen but what you think and what you would like to have happened and the end of the game is beyond your imagination ... then I wish you good luck
Thanks for the quick reply, i'll definitely gonna play this game now.