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You're missing one that actually backs up your statement. Take a screenshot of "sex noises at 2am".
You're missing one that actually backs up your statement. Take a screenshot of "sex noises at 2am".
What do you think Eric is doing in Alice’s room at 2-3 in the morning? And Max says in direct text, what is happening there, but he cannot see, because he is afraid of punishment.You're missing one that actually backs up your statement. Take a screenshot of "sex noises at 2am".
Failing miserably at getting anything sexual with her.What do you think Eric is doing in Alice’s room at 2-3 in the morning?
He says "Looks like". He made an assumption, that turns out to be wrong when later asking Alice about it after Eric's out of the picture.And Max says in direct text, what is happening there, but he cannot see, because he is afraid of punishment.
I never said anything about us hearing sounds, only for you to show where the game says anything at all about sex sounds (I said post a screenshot of it for a reason). Which you cannot do because it's never mentioned at all. You made it up.If you wanted to listen to "real sounds", then alas, the game works without sounds)
He failed miserably and therefore visits her 2 times a week?Failing miserably at getting anything sexual with her.
He says "Looks like". He made an assumption, that turns out to be wrong when later asking Alice about it after Eric's out of the picture.
He cannot see, or hear what is going on.
You're jumping to the same conclusion that Max did, just like so many other idiots did at the time.
I never said anything about us hearing sounds, only for you to show where the game says anything at all about sex sounds (I said post a screenshot of it for a reason). Which you cannot do because it's never mentioned at all. You made it up.
Of course. Just like Max's failures at most things, he keeps trying until he succeeds.He failed miserably and therefore visits her 2 times a week?
Her saying that she doesn't remember things after having alcohol is good enough for you, but her saying nothing happened isn't?Alice can’t say anything, because the game has already said 20 times that after drinking, she doesn’t remember anything in the morning, Eric uses this, and Max uses it by slipping sweets on her.
It's a figure of speech that's employed when making an assumption based on available evidence."Looks like" this is a figure of speech, not an assumption,
And in English that just looks like gibberish.in the Russian language this text does not look so two -digit.
Of course. Just like Max's failures at most things, he keeps trying until he succeeds.
Her saying that she doesn't remember things after having alcohol is good enough for you, but her saying nothing happened isn't?
So you're saying she's telling the truth when trying to excuse giving her own brother oral sex, but lying about sexual relations with Eric... How convenient for you.
The entire point of when she says nothing happened, is DS telling the audience that nothing happened, when originally something was supposed to happen. All the pushback on the things Eric did/would do lead DS to capitulate to the demands of idiots who don't understand when something is and isn't ntr.
It's a figure of speech that's employed when making an assumption based on available evidence.
The only evidence Max has at that point is that Eric's in her room at that time. Your evidence is Max's assumption, which is baseless.
And in English that just looks like gibberish.
Seriously, that last line makes no sense. Either on its own or as part of a sentence.
Also, the only guide that's of any value for this game is the second post in the walkthrough & questions thread, made by a1fox3.
It was made as the game was being released.
This is the point at which the bad writing is rubbing off on you.Continues to close with her alone in her bedroom at 2-3 am, then don't you think it's strange that Alice doesn't even mention this fact? Oh yeah, she doesn't remember anything.
You're assuming (still) that she's not lying about not remembering, when it's more logical that saying she couldn't remember was a lie to convince Max.It is quite logical that since she does not remember the H event, then it did not exist with respect to her gaze. Because she can't lie about it.
You do realise the state someone would be in to have consumed enough alcohol for it affect their memory, right?She also says that nothing happened when nothing really happened, which is basically a handy gag for both directions of the plot since I repeat she doesn't remember anything! She does not lie or tell the truth, this secret of her relationship with Eric remains only between Eric, Max and the Player. As well as the secret of Eric himself remains between Max, Kira and the Player.
What the fuck are you even saying here?I'm watching you NTR connoisseur?
It doesn't have any ntr.Because for me this game has only elements of NTR, but is not NTR at its core
You're still writing gibberish. That figure of speech has absolutely nothing to do with what languages someone does or does not speak.This figure of speech is used not only on the basis of an assumption, but also to assert that you apparently did not learn Russian well at school, if you had it, of course.
It's funny to watch how the mani world of a person collapses and he goes into complete denial, moving on to an insult to the individual.This is the point at which the bad writing is rubbing off on you.
You seriously think that Eric would stop after only one failure, and never try again. You're an idiot.
She doesn't mention it, because she has no reason to.
She doesn't care that her mother's boyfriend is a scumbag trying to seduce her.
You're assuming (still) that she's not lying about not remembering, when it's more logical that saying she couldn't remember was a lie to convince Max.
You do realise the state someone would be in to have consumed enough alcohol for it affect their memory, right?
At no point have we seen Alice that drunk. At all.
There's more evidence that she lied about that, than there is for your assertion that she lies about nothing happening with Eric.
What the fuck are you even saying here?
It doesn't have any ntr.
There are no love interests for Max, only "fuck interests". The closest thing to a love interest, is Lisa, purely down to them becoming (unofficial) boyfriend & girlfriend.
You're still writing gibberish. That figure of speech has absolutely nothing to do with what languages someone does or does not speak.
Given that I'm clearly not Russian, and don't speak (nor any interest in learning) Russian, then I'm obviously not from any country where it's a language that's taught in school. Which narrows it down to most likely be an English speaking country.
Mani world????It's funny to watch how the mani world of a person collapses and he goes into complete denial
Where did I say that it did?And for the record, NTR does not imply that the characters must be a couple
There's nothing in this VN's writing that's done smoothly.The whole situation was smoothly brought by the author initially to this moment, there are no revelations that Alice can be used while she is intoxicated.
Mani world, this is a Russian expression, I didn’t know for sure if you use it, I can paraphrase it as in the “world of dreams” or “the world of my own fantasies”Mani world????
Whatever auto-translate you're using is terrible. If you're not using one, then maybe you should, because that's definitely not an English language term.
It doesn't have any ntr.
There are no love interests for Max, only "fuck interests". The closest thing to a love interest, is Lisa, purely down to them becoming (unofficial) boyfriend & girlfriend.
You yourself said that there is no NTR because they are not a couple, and that Max does not have a love interest, and I only emphasized that this is not a prerequisite.Where did I say that it did?
I'm aware of sub-genres to make it easier for "content" lovers to filter their interests, but that doesn't create a limitation on the genre itself.Also, NTR is a catch-all term for three genres... For the record.
I have fully provided evidence and even built a logical chain for you, but you prefer to close your eyes and keep repeating that all this is not true. It's up to you and the fact that Eric used Alice thanks to Max is not going anywhere, as much as you would like it, but I can reassure you, this route is clearly not mandatory.There's nothing in this VN's writing that's done smoothly.
The only thing less smooth is your insistence, based upon no credible evidence whatsoever, that anything happened between Alice and Eric.
Are you losing the logical connection again or are you just trying to troll me?If you're taking Alice at her word regarding alcohol and her memory, then you have to take her at her word that nothing happens between her and Eric.
Mani world, this is a Russian expression, I didn’t know for sure if you use it, I can paraphrase it as in the “world of dreams” or “the world of my own fantasies”
Might want to brush up on your reading comprehension, because I said nothing of the sort.You yourself said that there is no NTR because they are not a couple
You literally have not.I have fully provided evidence
So now he's raping her?Eric only uses her when she's drunk, she doesn't know he's fucking her, of course she'll deny it.
Her remark about what?ps. In addition, the route is clearly not completed, because her remark is an excellent stub that closes both route options.
I'm sorry you're having trouble understanding basic things.In other words, yet more gibberish.
then what were you talking about?Might want to brush up on your reading comprehension, because I said nothing of the sort.
It doesn't have any ntr.
There are no love interests for Max, only "fuck interests". The closest thing to a love interest, is Lisa, purely down to them becoming (unofficial) boyfriend & girlfriend.
As the saying goes, you can't prove it to the blind. And even more so if he lacks the concept of logic and causation.You literally have not.
All you've given is your own supposition that's based entirely on Max's ill informed assumption and what you want to be happening combined with making shit up. That is not evidence.
This can be called in different ways, it is quite a formulaic technique used by porn games, very often there is a "love potion" or a "mind control" tool, in this case alcohol is this tool.So now he's raping her?
Yeah, no. That's completely out-of-character for both of them.
Yes, the point is that the game is abandoned and there are many ways to a dead end, such as corrupting the mother with the help of Eric or corrupting Alice with the help of a spanking for smoking.Her remark about what?
Many things were abandoned during development. Not least of which is the mystery of the house and its first camera and the connection between Ann's ex-husband and Eric.
Are you using two accounts?Its time to stop this crap, if it is not shown then it did not happen.
What Max thinks happen is only what he thinks happen, like I said if its not shown it did not happen.
Yep trolls will be trolls.Snugglepuff , a1fox3 the only way to stop a troll is to ignore the i...t (this is the short form of inteligent!) guy.
If by relationship scenes you mean sex scenes, then yes. Mostly similar to the ones in Glamour, though with obvious differences as this came first.Does this version have any relationship scenes of Max and Alice?thank u![]()