Shirafune

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I mean, what's the point of even talking about Eric? Any possible solution has been already mentioned. Meaning optional NTR, No NTR anymore and a new rival.. really, there's nothing else that could resolve it.
 

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We better talk about next movie.We already can guess that will be Max/Alice,Anna watching,Kira director.But what about the plot?Patient and his nurse,or student and his private teacher,or the son of rich family and the maid,or just go straight to brother/big sister story?
 
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Asphyx

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all we want are multiple paths, that make sense
one where max succeeds (get rid of eric after finding out about his identity), one were max looses (ntr route), one were he is maybe teaming up with eric (friend route, where eric is maybe kind of "mentor") - i think that's what the game was supposed to be before the whiny storm.

and all you want is "delete him and make a VN out of this "game""
i'm out, the discussion. it's useless, if you can't even accept side routes / other oppinions
No what we want is the FOCUS of an INCEST game to be INCEST!
Kira is the mentor NOT ERIC! Eric is the Obstacle! But you would prefer he become the focus.

Max Losing NTR route is there ENJOY it FOREVER if you like that kind of thing. It's not an NTR game and never was! I suggest you NTR guys go find an NTR game and stop trying to hijack Incest games into supporting your genre.

Friend route made it clear from the beginning that Eric had no interest in being a Mentor.
He wanted everyone so gave the player no recourse but to hate him if you wanted anything except looking at Eric's cock!
 

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We better talk about next movie.We already can guess that will be Max/Alice,Anna watching,Kira director.But what about the plot?Patient and his nurse,or student and his private teacher,or the son of rich family and the maid,or just go straight to brother/big sister story?
Max crash with his bike and break his leg, sis comes to visit when he cant run away (not that he would even attempt :) ).
 
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We better talk about next movie.We already can guess that will be Max/Alice,Anna watching,Kira director.But what about the plot?Patient and his nurse,or student and his private teacher,or the son of rich family and the maid,or just go straight to brother/big sister story?
I suspect it will be similar to the watching of the Movie in that there is a pair that gets caught by the other leading to a potential threesome movie later on.
 

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I rest my case about Eric fans being all about the NTR!
They even complain here that without him you can have sex with your family in an incest game...BAD GAME to them apparently!
Here is my suggestion to you....
Play DOOM!
Lots and lots of game play and challenge and you never have to fuck a family member even once![/QUOTE]

I would not recommend DOOM ...... I think the GTA V game would be better for them
 

micmitja

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I suspect it will be similar to the watching of the Movie in that there is a pair that gets caught by the other leading to a potential threesome movie later on.
yeah and this time lisa will see group orgy on couch and want to join in business (thinking finally will be done with homework :) ) . mom of course against it (if she only knew) :)
 

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and the "discussion" is over again. the arguments of the vanilla guys are just "we don't want an enemey, because we don't want an enemy!", the exact same thing as on the patreon "discussions"
all we want are multiple paths, that make sense
one where max succeeds (get rid of eric after finding out about his identity), one were max looses (ntr route), one were he is maybe teaming up with eric (friend route, where eric is maybe kind of "mentor") - i think that's what the game was supposed to be before the whiny storm.

and all you want is "delete him and make a VN out of this "game""
i'm out, the discussion. it's useless, if you can't even accept side routes / other oppinions
I don't mind an enemy, but they shouldn't be so hard, or counter-intuitive to beat. With Eric, it seemed like every choice you made that would have been logical in an incest game just played into his hands. Despite being billed as an incest game, the way Eric was put into the game makes it feel like you were actually just supposed to watch Eric fuck your family, and maybe takes his leftovers.

Now, if Eric would have been a choice versus a roadblock, I would have chosen to skip him entirely the first playthrough or two. Out of curiosity, I might have gone back later to play through his route so I could see the renders on those routes, but it wouldn't have been a high priority. But at this point, like a bunch of others, I have no desire to see him again. And chances are I won't have to. It seems unlikely that DS will every focus time and energy on him again. The outcry against it would be too high. Even when he's finished Ann's, Alice's, and Lisa's plot lines, I suspect he'll move on to a new game rather than go back and expand unpopular content such as Eric. It would make more sense to please the majority of his fans with a game that's more focused on incest, including things like romance and story, versus going with the NTR route that still causes arguments after Eric's effective removal from the future of the game.
 

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yeah and this time lisa will see group orgy on couch and want to join in business (thinking finally will be done with homework :) ) . mom of course against it (if she only knew) :)
Will we ever see Alice and Lisa doing something together? They are sisters bu we only see them together going to shopping.
 

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Will we ever see Alice and Lisa doing something together? They are sisters bu we only see them together going to shopping.
well some time we hope on lisa gf route they already know for each other, on olivia its still secret and mom is accepting that they are one whole corrupted family + she is only one that doesn't know for lisa on gf path at least. so yes i think we will only ? is when.
 

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Kira doesn't really want to fuck Max. Everything she did for him was secretly so that she would eventually get to sleep with Ann.

From a gameplay perspective, Kira was there to offer the first real sex to the player, so that they would stay interested in the game. Now you can get sex from Alice, and anal from Lisa, so Kira has served her purpose. That doesn't mean there couldn't be more sex scenes with Kira. But I believe that the story itself at least hints that Kira is a lesbian, and that she's doing this all for Ann. I think most players are more interested in the other three family members anyway. I know that my preference is for the three of them, just because mother or sister sex is far more taboo than aunt-nephew sex.
There isn't a single hint that Kira is a lesbian. She is bi, through and through. She doesn't want to sleep with her sister because she is into women, she is just interested in the same thing Max is, an incestuous relationship with her sister... plus I am sure love fits in there somewhere or another. If she was purely lesbian, I doubt her shower with Alice would be as tame as it is.
 

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i'm with you, the balance was bad, but it's bad now too
there has to be a middle way

I don't want to deny the incest or eric to be a road block. but i also don't want the game to be a mindless fuckfest
i want BB to be a game and not a VN, and in a game there has to be a losing condition to make it a challenge.

and people like asphyx don't even accept other routes or even challenges, only what kind of win do they get, so essentially they just want a VN without any bad route, just win win win - that's not my definition of a game
 
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Infamy

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There isn't a single hint that Kira is a lesbian. She is bi, through and through. She doesn't want to sleep with her sister because she is into women, she is just interested in the same thing Max is, an incestuous relationship with her sister... plus I am sure love fits in there somewhere or another. If she was purely lesbian, I doubt her shower with Alice would be as tame as it is.
Honestly she is Bi and also she is kinda a conceeded bitch she thinks she is this super hot chick who has such good looks she can wrap any man or woman around her finger in a way she is the female eric of the game she even says to the MC that she would love to have sex with her sister because she would be so against it and it would be a fun challenge to get her to try.
 

SilentFella

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Will we ever see Alice and Lisa doing something together? They are sisters bu we only see them together going to shopping.
Need to read the story =p Finish up Girlfriend route after Blog, then go do the blog a few more times and you will get your answer.
 

SilentFella

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She did take Max's virginity in the 2nd photo shot. :heartcoveredeyes:
Dont forget she doesn't touch Lisa in the girlfriend training sessions, as in she doesn't lick, finger, or play with her in any fashion. She doesn't play around with Alice in the shower. And she leaves Max to take Alice to the shower after clubbing. I don't see how people get that Kira is only into women.
 

SilentFella

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OK so this is why punishing sisters disappear.I was thinking it has something to do with money you give mom for the week expanse but even after I lend her 500$ I only can punish them in public.BTW the guy that said it take 5 hours to see less than 1 hour new content is right.One of the reason after 0.4 I don't start the game anew but just load saves from previous verion.Man now playing Something Unlimited.I miss like last 10 version and the grind with Tala is out of hand-she meditate more than any monk.
Anne tells you up front that if you miss a punishment you aren't allowed to do it again for a week. If the choice isn't available after that week, then its a bug, but if it is available, then that is just people not reading and knowing how it works.
 

SilentFella

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I'm not 100% certain. Without taking a deep dive back into the game and finding certain bits of dialogue, I can't be sure. Most of the time, it's not anything specific she said. It's just making guesses based on her actions. She makes it clear that she wants Ann.

I wouldn't trust Kira's word too much on wanting to fuck Max some more. She can say that all she wants, but until it happens, it could just be her manipulating Max to further her goals. If she did tell Max that she was a lesbian, or at least that she was only ever interested in Ann, she may think she risks losing his assistance in her porn career.

Kira has lied to and misled Ann the entire time she's been there. Don't assume she's not doing the same with Max. Again, I could be wrong. But it fits the facts.
Would have to disagree with you. I have read the story multiple times while playing, and the only times she mentions women is when training Lisa, and telling Lisa to not discount women as sexual partner, and likely better downstairs than men since they are women.... and talking about Anne. Other than that, she either talks about men, or generalizes. She isn't a lesbian, she is bi. Lastly, since folks seem to think she is only interested in Anne, why do you become a porn star if you are only interested in having sex with one person? The fact that she is a porn star shoots any theory that she only wants Anne out of the water. Anne was forbidden fruit to her, and in a sense an unrequited sexual love. Just because she had that for her sister doesnt mean she is a lesbian.
 

elmandor

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Need to read the story =p Finish up Girlfriend route after Blog, then go do the blog a few more times and you will get your answer.
I know that. I mean doing something together. A simple thing like watching tv or tanning.
 

Asphyx

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yeah and this time lisa will see group orgy on couch and want to join in business (thinking finally will be done with homework :) ) . mom of course against it (if she only knew) :)
You KNOW at some point Kira is going to try and get a piece of Lisa as she already is fooling around with the other two!

i'm with you, the balance was bad, but it's bad now too
there has to be a middle way

I don't want to deny the incest or eric to be a road block. but i also don't want the game to be a mindless fuckfest
i want BB to be a game and not a VN, and in a game there has to be a losing condition to make it a challenge.

and people like asphyx don't even accept other routes or even challenges, only what kind of win do they get, so essentially they just want a VN without any bad route, just win win win - that's not my definition of a game
No what I don't accept is this idea that a SEX game should remain SEXLESS!
Have you ever dated anyone? Getting a woman to agree to drop trou and let you stick a dick in her is probably the biggest CHALLENGE there is in life unless you are Brad Pitt or George Clooney!
Now amplify that challenge with convincing a RELATIVE to do that in a climate that it is TABOO to have sex between family.

THAT should be challenge enough and what you seem to suggest is that SEX in a SEX game is JUST BORING...
Well then the issue isn't the gameplay it is the choice you made of what kind of game to play.

These games are supposed to be INTERACTIVE porn movies. The fact they are rendered cartoons are merely a reflection of the fact it is far easier to do ANYTHING with an automaton that is impossible to do with a real actress!

The game should be judged on the story and the visuals not the difficulty. There are far more interesting and difficulties to overcome in other games. And quite a few in this game as well if you just give up on Eric!

The reason I keep responding to you guys is because I think you are all FOS when you claim Eric is needed to make a challenge in this game and are just using it as an excuse to try and re-introduce the NTR back into this.

If you think this game isn't a challenge as is I suggest you go read the Walkthrough and Help discussion thread where half the people playing this game can't even manage to get the private spankings!!!

it's plenty challenging without Eric, I can only surmise that you don't think so because you have chosen to keep him and friend him in the hopes that DS will break down, stop all the development that the rest of us like and give you more things to peep at!

The game doesn't need a cock blocker to challenge you...It is already challenging enough and if you think it's a simple click through without Eric I suggest you start writing the Walkthrough everyone wants but can't seem to come up with because the complexities to getting all the content is too much for a single path walkthrough!
 
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