Unity Abandoned Big Brother [v0.13.0.007] [Dark Silver]

[Asphyx]

yeah and this time lisa will see group orgy on couch and want to join in business (thinking finally will be done with homework ) . mom of course against it (if she only knew)

You KNOW at some point Kira is going to try and get a piece of Lisa as she already is fooling around with the other two!

i'm with you, the balance was bad, but it's bad now too
there has to be a middle way

I don't want to deny the incest or eric to be a road block. but i also don't want the game to be a mindless fuckfest
i want BB to be a game and not a VN, and in a game there has to be a losing condition to make it a challenge.

and people like asphyx don't even accept other routes or even challenges, only what kind of win do they get, so essentially they just want a VN without any bad route, just win win win - that's not my definition of a game

No what I don't accept is this idea that a SEX game should remain SEXLESS!
Have you ever dated anyone? Getting a woman to agree to drop trou and let you stick a dick in her is probably the biggest CHALLENGE there is in life unless you are Brad Pitt or George Clooney!
Now amplify that challenge with convincing a RELATIVE to do that in a climate that it is TABOO to have sex between family.

THAT should be challenge enough and what you seem to suggest is that SEX in a SEX game is JUST BORING...
Well then the issue isn't the gameplay it is the choice you made of what kind of game to play.

These games are supposed to be INTERACTIVE porn movies. The fact they are rendered cartoons are merely a reflection of the fact it is far easier to do ANYTHING with an automaton that is impossible to do with a real actress!

The game should be judged on the story and the visuals not the difficulty. There are far more interesting and difficulties to overcome in other games. And quite a few in this game as well if you just give up on Eric!

The reason I keep responding to you guys is because I think you are all FOS when you claim Eric is needed to make a challenge in this game and are just using it as an excuse to try and re-introduce the NTR back into this.

If you think this game isn't a challenge as is I suggest you go read the Walkthrough and Help discussion thread where half the people playing this game can't even manage to get the private spankings!!!

it's plenty challenging without Eric, I can only surmise that you don't think so because you have chosen to keep him and friend him in the hopes that DS will break down, stop all the development that the rest of us like and give you more things to peep at!

The game doesn't need a cock blocker to challenge you...It is already challenging enough and if you think it's a simple click through without Eric I suggest you start writing the Walkthrough everyone wants but can't seem to come up with because the complexities to getting all the content is too much for a single path walkthrough!

 

[Asphyx]

Anne tells you up front that if you miss a punishment you aren't allowed to do it again for a week. If the choice isn't available after that week, then its a bug, but if it is available, then that is just people not reading and knowing how it works.

This probably should go in the other thread truth be told....
Something to remember about this game...
The Weeks are based on how many Monday's have passed.
So if you screw up the spankings on a Wed, You probably have to wait for Two Mondays to pass to get the option to do it again.

 

[armion82]

Will we ever see Alice and Lisa doing something together? They are sisters bu we only see them together going to shopping.

I saw your avatar.I hope not only Alice and Lisa have something together but also Tracy and Alice.And Elena and daughter.

 

[DamnVamMan]

Perhaps he thinks Max's cock is too big to ever fully penetrate?
Maybe he is taking some of our criticism regarding the complete romantic detachment in this game (he is changing that a bit in this version) and thinking deep throating would look too abusive?
I can't say what is in his head...
Kira is a porn star she should be able to accommodate Max pretty easily.

But it does fit in line with everything we have seen so far...
Look back at all the sex scenes and all the renders. I can't remember a single frame that qualifies as Hardcore. Maybe the Anal scenes in Lisa GF path are more explicit (I can't say) but not once have we seen in closeup or direct view a penis entering a vagina. It's doggie style for Alice, Mish for Kira and both views are obscured from your view.

This so far has been a very SOFTCORE game.

I guess I screwed up by saying deepthroating because honestly what was going through my mind was was not having girl_x make his cock completely disappear down said womans throat, but more so a freaking gag or something.. I wouldn't believe it if a guy said he never asked the person blowing him to try and take it deeper or a little more risky, to just take things into your own hands and be a little risky helping her out a little.. lol this is why I hear so often, "yeah, but I'll do it at my own pace, not pushing my head down" or "yeah you can put your hands on the back of my head" and you guess it, "but don't push"... funny was this one chick that said "you can grab my pony tail like a handle but only to pull up".. the fuck is the point of that, I want her going the other way, whytf and I going to pull her up hahaha..

I get the arguments tho.. I think only a small percentage of women in the real world could DT max if the proportions match that of in the game. And I guess I see the whole romance argument.. IDK if people have a background in the non western VN's as they appear to be more in-depth/realistic relations etc.. I've only know western, and while I don't want a straight to sex, I thought this was just the norm. Dating My Daughter is the closest thing that I could see being more serious and romantic.. is this what people are seeking from DS?

 

[elmandor]

I saw your avatar.I hope not only Alice and Lisa have something together but also Tracy and Alice.And Elena and daughter.

Yep definitely agree with that

 

[Ignazzio]

Have you ever dated anyone? Getting a woman to agree to drop trou and let you stick a dick in her is probably the biggest CHALLENGE there is in life unless you are Brad Pitt or George Clooney! Now amplify that challenge with convincing a RELATIVE to do that in a climate that it is TABOO to have sex between family.

I can't agree with most of your post but it's pointless to argue. But this one sentence about incest being a challenge creeps me out You don't need to be Brad Pitt to get laid relatively easy but I can agree that it is a challenge for some. Incest in real life is not a challenge at all. And it's not because of taboo. It's because it's impossible to seduce your family if they're not mentally ill and ugly as hell so they could be kept outside of the competition. In fact your mentality and outer appearance would have to be as sick as their is. When it comes to real live if you have to pick some taboo sexual behavior just pick bestiality. It's probably easier to find attractive goat than sexy sister lusting for her brother
All these patreon incest games (maybe except for DMD cus of really slow development. It's still 0% of realism but at least they're trying to fake it) are as realistic and challenging as Microsoft Paint. But it's fine as they're some sort of a fantasy to arouse the players. BB is easy with and without Eric but if you have some specific enemy it's easier to justify overcoming obstacles. Without it it seems null cus as you said sex in a sex game is boring when you don't have to do anything to reach it. Still I find this amusing how badly incest theme cooparate with sandbox elements in erotic game industry. I wonder what type of erotic games will be in 10-20 years

 

[armion82]

Yep definitely agree with that

BTW you saw the 2 previews for DmD and daughter cooking and also DoD news?

 

[elmandor]

BTW you saw the 2 previews for DmD and daughter cooking and also DoD news?

Yep I saw DmD previews really hot. DoD I am a patreon so I saw everything lol

 

[Asphyx]

I get the arguments tho.. I think only a small percentage of women in the real world could DT max if the proportions match that of in the game. And I guess I see the whole romance argument.. IDK if people have a background in the non western VN's as they appear to be more in-depth/realistic relations etc.. I've only know western, and while I don't want a straight to sex, I thought this was just the norm. Dating My Daughter is the closest thing that I could see being more serious and romantic.. is this what people are seeking from DS?

And I'm certainly not against the DT as a scene....I just don't see the scenes in this game being HC enough for DS to even attempt it.
And I'm not even suggesting that the game be all romantic, all incest involves some debauchery involved in both getting the idea into someone's head and setting them up to find yourself in the situation that leads to consummation.
Even in the real world (where incest does happen) the most challenging part is the seduction of the target and finding a way to hint at/titillate/seduce them to comply or acquiesce with the forbidden acts.

 

[SilentFella]

Imho, I look at it like this, the ones that keep him around in a half arsed state, does it because they don't want to progress with the game, make him their enemy and deal with him. If people so like to get their balls kicked Im sure there is enough people in rl that is more than willing to line up a kick to give that pleasure.

My biggest issue with that view point is you don't know there is no content for you with him around past a certain point. I always wanted to find the scenes where he invites you into the bedroom, never did find them though. I kept him around till day 140 or so hunting, even asked on these forums, never got an answer. So that plus Anna's new apron scenes are the only content I haven't seen in game yet, and chances are, next time I start from scratch, I will keep him around again just trying to find those few scenes I haven't found yet.

 

[armion82]

And I'm certainly not against the DT as a scene....I just don't see the scenes in this game being HC enough for DS to even attempt it.
And I'm not even suggesting that the game be all romantic, all incest involves some debauchery involved in both getting the idea into someone's head and setting them up to find yourself in the situation that leads to consummation.
Even in the real world (where incest does happen) the most challenging part is the seduction of the target and finding a way to hint at/titillate/seduce them to comply or acquiesce with the forbidden acts.

I already told DS he need to play Dreams of Desire and see how to make the sex scenes better.

 

[Asphyx]

Incest in real life is not a challenge at all. And it's not because of taboo. It's because it's impossible to seduce your family if they're not mentally ill and ugly as hell so they could be kept outside of the competition.

If you think getting laid is so easy I suggest you walk up to a stranger and ask her to have sex with you and see the reaction you get!

You think Incest is impossible unless you are mentally ill or ugly as fuck?
You got a lot to learn about real life my friend!
There are millions of people in incestual relationships right now!
Just because you have not fucked your mother or sister doesn't mean no one has...
You know what is REALLY Unrealistic?
Having your Mother's Boyfriend let you watch him fuck her! And have her be OK with that because it won't be a secret.
At least if she just has sex with the Son it can be kept between the two of them!

 

[Asphyx]

I already told DS he need to play Dreams of Desire and see how to make the sex scenes better.

Well making more than 4 pictures with some semblance of decent dialogue would be a first good step! LOL
It really is all in the dialogue where the romance happens. And he doesn't need to add a lot just some to balance out all the blackmail and half consent.

 

[SilentFella]

Honestly she is Bi and also she is kinda a conceeded bitch she thinks she is this super hot chick who has such good looks she can wrap any man or woman around her finger in a way she is the female eric of the game she even says to the MC that she would love to have sex with her sister because she would be so against it and it would be a fun challenge to get her to try.

I actually disagree with that too. I don't find her beautiful, and I don't think she finds herself beautiful. What I find her, and likely she finds herself, is drop dead sexy. Beauty and being sexy don't require each other to exist in a person.

 

[SilentFella]

I know that. I mean doing something together. A simple thing like watching tv or tanning.

I see what you mean. See her and Kira in the shower and her and Anna by the pool. Honestly, I feel Lisa is very underutilized outside of her GF route. I would just plain love more ways to raise her mood than homework and washing dishes. A 3 way tv session between different ladies on different days would be awesome.

 

[SilentFella]

I guess I screwed up by saying deepthroating because honestly what was going through my mind was was not having girl_x make his cock completely disappear down said womans throat, but more so a freaking gag or something.. I wouldn't believe it if a guy said he never asked the person blowing him to try and take it deeper or a little more risky, to just take things into your own hands and be a little risky helping her out a little.. lol this is why I hear so often, "yeah, but I'll do it at my own pace, not pushing my head down" or "yeah you can put your hands on the back of my head" and you guess it, "but don't push"... funny was this one chick that said "you can grab my pony tail like a handle but only to pull up".. the fuck is the point of that, I want her going the other way, whytf and I going to pull her up hahaha..

I get the arguments tho.. I think only a small percentage of women in the real world could DT max if the proportions match that of in the game. And I guess I see the whole romance argument.. IDK if people have a background in the non western VN's as they appear to be more in-depth/realistic relations etc.. I've only know western, and while I don't want a straight to sex, I thought this was just the norm. Dating My Daughter is the closest thing that I could see being more serious and romantic.. is this what people are seeking from DS?

There is one scene like that. The bj you get from alice after she comes home from the club after eating the candies. I went through that segment after reading your previous post, and that struck me as exactly what you were looking for.

 

[SilentFella]

Well making more than 4 pictures with some semblance of decent dialogue would be a first good step! LOL
It really is all in the dialogue where the romance happens. And he doesn't need to add a lot just some to balance out all the blackmail and half consent.

Depends on the dialogue. I am not a huge fan of dialogue that just tries to describe all the actions going on. Too many games do that. I would rather it all be realistically written and not a bunch of descriptions of the action or a bunch of ooohhhhss and aaahhhhsss. Yeah, a few games do that, and I wince everytime I find one.

 

[Asphyx]

Depends on the dialogue. I am not a huge fan of dialogue that just tries to describe all the actions going on. Too many games do that. I would rather it all be realistically written and not a bunch of descriptions of the action or a bunch of ooohhhhss and aaahhhhsss. Yeah, a few games do that, and I wince everytime I find one.

That isn't Dialogue that is Scene Direction...
Dialogue is lines spoken by the characters to each other during the scene.
It can be anything from dirty talk, to proclamations of love, encouragement and even requests for certain acts...
We don't need scene directions or descriptions as the pictures should tell that part of the story.
But the dialogue tells you what they are FEELING and WANTING during the sex scenes and where all the emotional content is contained.

 

[Ignazzio]

If you think getting laid is so easy I suggest you walk up to a stranger and ask her to have sex with you and see the reaction you get!

You think Incest is impossible unless you are mentally ill or ugly as fuck?
You got a lot to learn about real life my friend!
There are millions of people in incestual relationships right now!
Just because you have not fucked your mother or sister doesn't mean no one has...
You know what is REALLY Unrealistic?
Having your Mother's Boyfriend let you watch him fuck her! And have her be OK with that because it won't be a secret.
At least if she just has sex with the Son it can be kept between the two of them!

Ofc, you can't seduce every single random person. Life is not a game. And asking for sex is not a part of seduction. It surely has to be a challenge if you have such a straightforward way of doing it
Dude, real-life incest between close siblings is mostly between father-daughter and brother-sister only because men tends to abuse women. Aside from that, normal relationship you could call incest is rare as fuck. You don't have be ugly as fuck to be in an incest relationship although I'm pretty damn sure it would be hard for such a person to reach 5/10 rating. But ill mentality or at least some extreme disorders are required for sure. Inbreeding in general is an extreme type of sexual disorder in most of the species. Defending it is pointless as it's not disgusting for most because it's taboo but it's taboo because it's disgusting for most. We just work like that as a specie. Your millions without some strong evidence can be considered only as a huge exaggeration. All of it doesn't work in erotic games ofc where psychological aspects can create even the weirdest and most disgusting fetishes into something acceptable (gore oO).
Part about boyfriend is not realistic for sure (tho it's pretty realistic for a kid to find his parents fucking). Still, in some crazy turn of events it's possible at least. Sexy as hell mom/sister fucking with her son/brother is not. That's just an erotic fantasy.

 

[Asphyx]

Ofc, you can't seduce every single random person. Life is not a game. And asking for sex is not a part of seduction. It surely has to be a challenge if you have such a straightforward way of doing it
Dude, real-life incest between close siblings is mostly between father-daughter and brother-sister only because men tends to abuse women. Aside from that, normal relationship you could call incest is rare as fuck. You don't have be ugly as fuck to be in an incest relationship although I'm pretty damn sure it would be hard for such a person to reach 5/10 rating. But ill mentality or at least some extreme disorders are required for sure. Inbreeding in general is an extreme type of sexual disorder in most of the species. Defending it is pointless as it's not disgusting for most because it's taboo but it's taboo because it's disgusting for most. We just work like that as a specie. Your millions without some strong evidence can be considered only as a huge exaggeration. All of it doesn't work in erotic games ofc where psychological aspects can create even the weirdest and most disgusting fetishes into something acceptable (gore oO).
Part about boyfriend is not realistic for sure (tho it's pretty realistic for a kid to find his parents fucking). Still, in some crazy turn of events it's possible at least. Sexy as hell mom/sister fucking with her son/brother is not. That's just an erotic fantasy.

You sound more like a sex hating Christian conservative than someone who is into sex...
If you can't just FUCK someone on first contact then you are ADMITTING my point that the challenge lay in the seduction and therefore this notion that your butt buddy Eric is needed is just NTR loving subterfuge!

fewer people doing NTR in the real world than are doing incest!

But any excuse you can come up with to get more NTR I suppose...
I would say people who like watching other fuck are more mentally ill that two family members who actually fuck!
And probably uglier too since they don't even attempt to HAVE sex just watch someone else so they can avoid the constant rejection!

Your statements EXPOSE YOU for the fraud you are trying to perpetrate with this Eric request....
You have made it CLEAR that Incest is DISGUSTING and OBSCENE to you and the only reason you liked this game at all is because you could get your NTR jollies off to it with your love of Eric!