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Well @DarkSilver at the end has left mom and Max alone at the house from 1200 to 1600 Monday - Friday, 4 hours I wonder if he has some plans for that.

Maybe Ann will get hot and heavy in the porn movies or he has plans for Max and mom.
 

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Man, I didn't say anything about NTR in my post. It was just about real life incest. Ofc seduction is some sort of a challenge. Tho I can't agree that it's something really hard that you need to be a famous actor to do that. Nothing about Eric in that one.
Comparing NTR and incest in real life is pointless. Both are considered disgusting. Difference is that incest doesn't really exist in people's mind as most people don't believe it even exist in modern day except for some cases said before. It's just disgusting without any emotions attached to it while NTR in real live is everywhere in form of cheating and simply losing in romantic competition. No one likes that in real life so in real life it doesn't exist as a fetish. Even if you would like to you can't observe your loved one being seduced and fucked by other guys. In games you're an observer so you can see it. But regardless of that I'm sure that things that make people into NTR in games are the most prelevent. Most people felt attraction or even love toward at least few people during their life. In terms of NTR first(second etc,) love of most people was seduced and fucked by other person( most likely people considering years). It's just how it is. No emotions to that. In real life incest is not a fetish but a rare sexual behavior and NTR doesn't exist at all but things on which it's based on occur everywhere however painful and heartbreaking they would be.
I'm not dissing incest and praising NTR. Real life is just like that.
But that's a huge offtop. I hope DS will gain some knowledge from our mumbling \m/
 
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Well @DarkSilver at the end has left mom and Max alone at the house from 1200 to 1600 Monday - Friday, 4 hours I wonder if he has some plans for that.

Maybe Ann will get hot and heavy in the porn movies or he has plans for Max and mom.
At his current rate of progression it will be quite a few updates until he does I suspect.
Max still hasn't had intercourse with her and even the movies she is still very reluctant about them (although he has hinted in the dialogue that she is changing a bit in that regard)

At this point he has done most things with everyone except Mom so I hope he does get that part of the story closer to completion.
 
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Man, I didn't say anything about NTR in my post. It was just about real life incest.
Yeah we know you didn't mention it...Conspicuously avoid it in hopes of fooling us about some CHALLENGE Eric provides as a back door into more NTR content.

You are not fooling anyone with that tactic!
You are FOS when making the argument that Eric is about a challenge when there are plenty of challenges that exist i the game after he is gone!
And your opinions on those who might have Incest in real life EXPOSES your views regarding incest in general.

The big ERIC LIE is exposed...
We get it you guys don't like Incest but LIKE NTR even if you no longer admit it because you know what our answer will be when you say that.

I say if this game is ruined for you without Eric then find another game to play and stop trying to bring him back because you are in the minority here in wanting more of him and the rest of us don't want DS to waste another 3 or 4 rendering sessions out of the 20 we get per release on that loser track when he could be using them to create another Incest Sex scene for his INCEST game!
 

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LOL OUR incest game would be very different I think!
For one there would be no Eric at all!
 

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But that's a huge offtop. I hope DS will gain some knowledge from our mumbling \m/
Nah pal, he won't. The things you're saying have been said plenty of times before. Eric topic is actually quite finished already cause people are bringing up the same points over and over again, and you're not original either.

Also, @Asphyx We get it already that you don't like the NTR, but no need to be such a hater I guess lol
 
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You sound more like a sex hating Christian conservative than someone who is into sex...
If you can't just FUCK someone on first contact then you are ADMITTING my point that the challenge lay in the seduction and therefore this notion that your butt buddy Eric is needed is just NTR loving subterfuge!

fewer people doing NTR in the real world than are doing incest!

But any excuse you can come up with to get more NTR I suppose...
I would say people who like watching other fuck are more mentally ill that two family members who actually fuck!
And probably uglier too since they don't even attempt to HAVE sex just watch someone else so they can avoid the constant rejection!

Your statements EXPOSE YOU for the fraud you are trying to perpetrate with this Eric request....
You have made it CLEAR that Incest is DISGUSTING and OBSCENE to you and the only reason you liked this game at all is because you could get your NTR jollies off to it with your love of Eric!
Man you should take some break from porn games when you can't properly talk about other topics:p I like NTR and I don't like incest in games. I don't find it disgusting in games but boring and plot-wise stupid. I don't need to hide anything. I wasn't even talking about game so I guess it's my fault in a first place to try to dispute about your sayings.
No point to argue.
 
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Doesn't like incest but plays ' the incest game of your life'.
Likes ntr and plays an incest game that developer has categorically stated doesn't contain ntr and isnt going to be added more.

Comes to forums to campaign for the game to be what he wants it to be.

Gets upset when people shoot his nonsense down...

This is just such an epic fail on almost all counts. If you weren't trying to ruin something I like I'd be laughing.
 

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Having Max tagging along when they all go shopping would be a nice idea. Or even going to the club with Alice once you've finished the blogger path.
 

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I like NTR and I don't like incest in games.
yet you choose to play an Incest game...Why?
because all you wanted was NTR content and once that content stopped coming you claimed the game was RUINED!
Hell you even admitted that you supported the game because of it and helped DS make the NTR content! Yet when the rest of his Supporters REVOLTED at him for your allowing you to try and make an incest game an NTR game he quickly realized how wrong he was to listen to you and quickly made challenges to get rid of him!

We all THANK YOU for your transparency and finally admitting what your Eric issues were all along....
He wasn't allowed to make an Incest game into an NTR game!

Well, the incest game of your life for like 4 versions was more NTR than incest so I could've hopes:p
Only because you NTR guys got him early (it was no more than V3 and V4) before he could set up a single sex scene with the Family!
But Cucking is easy!
 

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Doesn't like incest but plays ' the incest game of your life'.
Likes ntr and plays an incest game that developer has categorically stated doesn't contain ntr and isnt going to be added more.

Comes to forums to campaign for the game to be what he wants it to be.

Gets upset when people shoot his nonsense down...

This is just such an epic fail on almost all counts. If you weren't trying to ruin something I like I'd be laughing.
My only regret here is that I can only like that post you made ONCE!
 

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Having Max tagging along when they all go shopping would be a nice idea. Or even going to the club with Alice once you've finished the blogger path.
Here is an Eric scene I would like to see that uses your idea...
Max goes with Kira and Alice to the club...Kate and her Mom is there too!
In the corner of the room of the renderings is Eric hogtied ass up, Ball gag in his mouth getting railed in the butt by the biggest nastiest Ex-Con DS can model!

Doesn't get to say a word....Doesn't serve any purpose but as background setting.

That would be about the only re-introduction to Eric this game should have! And make it a Once and Done!
 

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Also, @Asphyx We get it already that you don't like the NTR, but no need to be such a hater I guess lol
I don't have a problem with NTR...I have a problem with people who play an Incest game and then say it is ruined because it isn't an NTR game instead!
I would never start playing an NTR game and then try to politic, complain or DEMAND it add more Incest because NTR is boring...
But that is what these NTR guys are doing and honestly I'm tired of hearing their whining...
They should go find a window in their neighborhood and look inside as it is likely to be a lot more exciting than waiting for an opportunity in an incest game for 4 Versions running and STILL asking why no more NTR.
 

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So much bickering...

I don't really know anything about NTR, aside from the bickering I'm seeing. While I'm not really down for what NTR sounds like, I still think there's some more that Eric could be good for.

I'd like to see his control path expanded so you could get more from Ann that way, too, as an alternative to making her do porn. I said before I think manipulating Eric into that could be cool since he has so much control over her - pitch it as sex-ed for Max initially, or even (as unlikely as it sounds) have Eric push her into it as a kink. Kira has already said that Ann is much easier to convince when she's already aroused, and Eric had a LOT more control over her than Kira.

I'd also like to see Max get to dominate Ann after Eric is gone. Partly because I'd really like to see a way to get more with her that doesn't require Kira facilitating everyfuckingthing.
 
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The problem with any suggestion involving keeping Eric around that people have is that 1) a lot of people really hate him at this point, and will never be able to get over that, and 2) they really don't want to have to share Ann with him, or have him lusting after or screwing any of the family members. That's an absolute non-starter for a whole lot of people. That doesn't mean we don't want some challenge and conflict. It's just that we hate Eric, and speaking personally, I don't want to share Ann, Alice, Lisa, or Kira with anyone that has a penis.
 

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That's fair enough for you. Just sharing my own opinion. But everyone gets so heated about it, like they have to be right, and I get the impression part of why people hate Eric is because of the heat about it in discussions like these. Speaking as someone who's worked on games, though, this is all too common with games released early in development.

People form an opinion on a piece of a game mechanic or character or whatever as if it was a finished thing. Initially they get upset, throw out what they want to happen and try real hard to persuade the dev to do it their way. Then they get in fights, because they don't agree with each other, and people want things the way they want, not how someone else wants it. Then the fights blow out of proportion, people dig in, and you wind up with extremely vocal polar opposite opinions. That's about where this is now. Some people want lots more Eric, others want Eric completely removed from the game. Makes it really hard to talk about how the character could be done in a better way...

There was clearly more intended with Eric. The control path itself is supposed to be a way for you to get what you want by putting Eric in his place and using him for your own goals. That has real potential to be a satisfying reward for putting up with his shit (although his shit was definitely way overdone). That could be an actual topic - how to make Eric more fun as the antagonist by making his storyline more rewarding and less of an annoying pain in the dick. A little more realistic plot work would be good there, too, I think. But people are polarized as hell already...

I can understand wanting to prevent Eric from getting to fuck them - he's an outright prick and part of the challenge to the game is trying to get them for yourself (whether he was there or not that would be the whole idea). I don't think it makes a lot of sense to be upset about some of the girls fucking someone else, though. Not only is it just a game, but Ann's gonna fuck him in the beginning, nothing you can do about that. And Kira's a porn star. Her job is to fuck random guys on a regular basis. You don't get her all to yourself no matter what you do, you just don't see it happening. Pretty sure she wouldn't even let you have her all to yourself considering she loves her job. So yeah, she's gettin plugged by... probably a bunch of guys... the whole time. No sense at all in getting upset about someone else plugging her. But that isn't really as bad, is it? It's more about Eric, since he's the overdone antagonist that completely shuts you down to the point it can make the game a lot less fun. But that's clearly not how he was intended to be forever.

And that's what I'd rather think about: what could he be that would actually add some fun to the game?
 
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