Unity Abandoned Big Brother [v0.13.0.007] [Dark Silver]

[Lykanz]

Can you fuck your mom or lisa now?

Lisa only anal, Mom not yet.

Come back in a year or so and check again.

 

[a1fox3]

Can you fuck your mom or lisa now?

No on both but next month v9 we may get both of them.

Mom may only be for a movie and if DS did the romance for Lisa we may get to have her to.
We will have to wait and see.

 

[neodtst]

Having sex with Ann and Lisa could definitely be the ending. But the problem with that is the timeline where we only have 2 more updates before we reached that ending point. With Lisa's romance only started in 0.9, it would be disappointing to suddenly end at 1.0, and same with Ann where the only sex act between Max and Ann had been in disguise of shooting for porn movie which doesn't leave much room to build into proper ending in 1.0.

Eric is definitely gone and it doesn't make sense for DS to add more content of him based on the fact that the path has been ignored for the last few updates (plus, people are triggered too much about Eric that I'm honestly worried about their mental health). Olivia is a secondary path that doesn't really offer much either. While I understand that some people wished Olivia's path to be merged into Lisa's path, I think it's actually better to just finish her path (and Eric's too) because DS hasn't been able to show that he's capable of writing multiple paths and keeping them updated. It would benefit BB more if the game is linear, or with short branches that actually got closed.

At the moment, I prefer for DS to make a new game. I think the new game could be even better DS managed to use the experience in creating BB to create a better quality game in the future. The risk is of course that there might be less people supporting a new game because they weren't hooked yet like in BB.

yep , i been advocating for that .. this game got too many open paths and opportunities, too sandbox based( I like sandbox don't get me wrong) if you will , that will never have finishers and now hammered forced into a VN style fan dictated path making the game extend super advancely in certain linear paths creating a extremely lopsided game? or a very confused VN battered by too many choices? can't decide which is which

While there is talk that eventually all paths will be realized , but lets be honest on the progress on the game we witnessed.

This game is better off closed and a new 2.0 VN style created based on what the vocal fans wants. Those standard linear VN ending with a adoring harem. You get a smaller size game anyway and easier to progress since the linear path is easy to implement and MUCH MUCH less arguments.
So I guess i rather have a completed VN than a sandbox open-ended game hammered into a VN or vice versa.

I never know what i can get further done with spiders again , special books , hidden cams or even Ann's trauma T.T
(Kudos to DS , I really like your different ideas from those visit(x) times and sex happen games but alas things are not meant to be)

 

[O Grande Punidor Sexual]

how to extract pics?

 

[a1fox3]

RELEASE PLAN
7th September:

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2nd October: 0.9 will be available for $40 patrons
7th October: 0.9 will be available for $5+ patrons
2nd November: 1.0 will be available for $40 patrons
7th November: 1.0 will be available for $5+ patrons


0.9 is already well under way. It's too early for the full change log, but I can give you some general idea of what's to come:
I'll spend a lot of time on shopping. Max will finally get to leave the house! And he'll get to spend his money.

Dates with Lisa outside of the house. How many and other details are still unclear.

There will be at least one more movie with Alice, Max and Ann.

Plenty of new events with Ann, Alice and Lisa in the house.

And more...



I get that you wanted to see more content in 0.8 and I'll try to do better in 0.9.

Oh, and another thing. After 0.9 I'll release 1.0, not 0.10, as some people might think. Formally it will be a finished “released” version. We'll see what's next after that. You'll probably get to vote on the after-1.0 future plans this month.

 

[Skylaroo]

@a1fox3 , that was posted a few pages earlier.

@neodtst it doesn't even have to be sandbox. It could've had different branches and be fine as long as DS kept the branches short (e.g.: just different outcomes of the Opportunity instead of the branch being a brand new path). Being sandbox is also perfectly acceptable if DS has the manpower to produce content at a good rate to get those branches going on regularly. But it's clear that he unfortunately couldn't so it doesn't make sense to go that route.

I never know what i can get further done with spiders again , special books , hidden cams or even Ann's trauma T.T

Well DS mentioned that Max might get to sleep in Alice's room because of the spider. So who knows if he also added other smaller things elsewhere. Books? Would make sense to buy kamasutra and start practicing some poses with Alice lol. Hidden cams and Ann's trauma though? Unlikely to ever get elaborated because the cams were pretty much just a way to make money while Ann's traume is sidelined along with Eric's disappearence.

 

[a1fox3]

@a1fox3 , that was posted a few pages earlier.

Yes it was but it got lost/moved with the purge that happen a few days ago.

 

[Corambis]

@a1fox3 , that was posted a few pages earlier.

@neodtst it doesn't even have to be sandbox. It could've had different branches and be fine as long as DS kept the branches short (e.g.: just different outcomes of the Opportunity instead of the branch being a brand new path). Being sandbox is also perfectly acceptable if DS has the manpower to produce content at a good rate to get those branches going on regularly. But it's clear that he unfortunately couldn't so it doesn't make sense to go that route.


Well DS mentioned that Max might get to sleep in Alice's room because of the spider. So who knows if he also added other smaller things elsewhere. Books? Would make sense to buy kamasutra and start practicing some poses with Alice lol. Hidden cams and Ann's trauma though? Unlikely to ever get elaborated because the cams were pretty much just a way to make money while Ann's traume is sidelined along with Eric's disappearence.

I think with smart planning and a well-thought out implementation you could have a game like BB that does have branches that don't necessarily stray that far from the others, and get intertwined again. But that has to be pretty much planned out from the beginning. It's not something easily done to a game in progress.

I do want a game where it feels like I make a difference, and that I'm just not clicking on options that give me the illusion of choice. But I don't need so many options so that I never make an real progress, or the programmer is spending all of their time with options versus advancing the game.

Maybe one of the options Max gives people when 1.0 comes out is to do a remastered version of BB. He could impliment a lot of the suggestions of the gans. He could take Eric out, or make him more easily disable and banished. There could be more relatives. They could be spiders and books again, and all the good stuff

 

[a1fox3]

Maybe one of the options Max gives people when 1.0 comes out is to do a remastered version of BB. He could impliment a lot of the suggestions of the gans. He could take Eric out, or make him more easily disable and banished. There could be more relatives. They could be spiders and books again, and all the good stuff

It is very easy to block and disable him now where he only gets to fuck Ann and just peep at Alice both being his friend or going to war on day 1. I got a walkthrough for both ways in the 2nd post of the Read Me/walkthrough thread.
Easy Peasy.

 

[Skylaroo]

I do want a game where it feels like I make a difference, and that I'm just not clicking on options that give me the illusion of choice. But I don't need so many options so that I never make an real progress, or the programmer is spending all of their time with options versus advancing the game.

The thing is that BB doesn't even have that many branches at all. There are only 2 branches (Eric/No-Eric, and Lisa/Olivia) and because the game has been treating the characters pretty much individually, there is no real need to try connecting the paths because Eric+Lisa is same path as Eric+Olivia when it comes to "Eric". It's just that it's obvious a lot of people don't like the branches offered by DS, and it doesn't help either that DS couldn't really take care of the branches equally.

For example, in the earlier version, taking Olivia's path was much more rewarding than Lisa's path because you could hardly do anything with Lisa. Then suddenly Olivia's path is somewhat abandoned while Lisa's path continued to get more and more updates that now Olivia's path is pretty much pointless. Had both paths been updated regularly at the same pace with equal treatment, then people would have more options to pick one or the other.

So it's clear that DS had a change of direction with the game mid-way. Either that's because the demand from the patrons or not, I can't answer. But one thing for sure is that it feels like DS bit more than he can chew.

 

[Skylaroo]

It is very easy to block and disable him now where he only gets to fuck Ann and just peep at Alice both being his friend or going to war on day 1. I got a walkthrough for both ways in the 2nd post of the Read Me/walkthrough thread.
Easy Peasy.

It has always been easy from the very beginning to do exactly that. It's just that unfortunately some people never paid attention to the in-game mechanism (e.g.: Eric's influence) and they ended up complaining about how Eric is too powerful.

 

[SilentFella]

It has always been easy from the very beginning to do exactly that. It's just that unfortunately some people never paid attention to the in-game mechanism (e.g.: Eric's influence) and they ended up complaining about how Eric is too powerful.

Not really that honestly. What got me was cash income and Eric domination of me. I wasn't a fan of being locked out of stuff because Eric beat me to it. If it wasn't for ikarumod, I would of quit the game after 40 days or so and never gone back. I got tired of watching Eric and having no way to fight back. That sense of helplessness is exactly why Eric sucks, because you stand no chance against him for way too long, and there are too many missable things that Eric can beat you to, of course that being clothing. His influence was a pain without cash too, but, if you do a playthrough or two, you learn tricks. One trick I learned is saving clothes till after a Wednesday when his influence gets a big boost on Alice, and then giving her a clothing item to take her down to 0%. Most people won't last long enough to figure that out, and I didn't learn it without giving myself an initial $10k boost at the start of the game from the mod.

Ultimately, DS's call was to make a smaller crowd happy with Eric or spread the scope of the game to actually live up to the game's title and focus on a much more popular genre that his game was named after.

 

[Jack73]

The fact that Dark Silver had Eric in this game is the reason it is so popular.

Just like you can enjoy the story more because of the antagonist (the Joker) in The Dark Knight, Eric provides the role of something extremely important for the game too be so good. Watch

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and I promise you will come to understand that it is extremely important for Eric to be a part of this story.

I think he should have actually been given a lot more content and a longer life. It is too boring for Eric to be beaten in the middle of the story. After the danger is gone we feel as if the story should progress much faster but since he was gotten rid of so early and we haven't actually developed the relationships well enough that the pay off in getting to enjoy them either feels so far away or just not enough.

If Eric was someone that you gradually beat as Dark Silver originally had us play in the game I think beating him would have been so much better near the end of the story. You could do so much with Eric in that you slowly strip away the power that he has over all of the women around you. Eric would be the active person you are fighting rather than the wait button in this game. Instead of waiting so long for shit to happen you could have a constant struggle with Eric over control of your family. Then Dark Silver can make all of the time wasted on grinding or waiting alot less because as a player you are actively trying to do several things at once.

You could start with the help of Kira to make Lisa more loyal to you. Either she can forget eric entirely and become your GF or You could have her hook up with Alex while you bang Olivia.
Then you could focus on making Alice yours or have her hook up with Kate.
Finally you can completely push Eric out of your home by getting Ann into the Porn business with the help of Kira. This you can use to slowly push Eric out of her life and substituting you into it.

Having Eric in the game gives you so many more options and much more pay off. Without him in the game it really isnt as good.
Let me end by having you answer a question.
What would be better?
Asking a Girl out and she says yes because she has nothing better to do,
or
Convincing your Crush to go our with you and dump your Archenemy?

just a clarification. but when you go to the cinema to see a movie, and this movie you do not like ..... what do you do? do you write to the director and the production, pretending to change it? for example by transforming Titanic from dramatic/romantic film into horror movies, asking for splatter scenes to be inserted?
I do not think so. a movie likes or dislikes. BB is the game, the movie, of Dark Silver. Do you like? plays .... do not you like it? find the game that suits your taste. STOP ... it's all.

 

[Pantisocrat]

It has always been easy from the very beginning to do exactly that. It's just that unfortunately some people never paid attention to the in-game mechanism (e.g.: Eric's influence) and they ended up complaining about how Eric is too powerful.

That's not what people meant by Eric being too powerful, or at least it's not all of what they meant. It was things like when you catch Eric peeping on Alice, there's a number of possible outcomes. One involves successfully taking a photo to prove it. Ann blows the photo off, and she blows it off regardless of Eric's influence level. Another outcome is getting caught by Eric. When Ann comes out and challenges you, there's a persuasion check to convince her that Eric was perving on Alice. Eric manages to convince Ann even if you pass the persuasion check.

That's the sort of thing people were complaining about. Personally, I really liked it, it always seemed like the start of a JRPG where some evil force has corrupted and polluted the entire land, and the plucky young hero has like only a wooden sword and a knapsack. And he has to gradually level up until he's strong enough.

But a lot of people really, really didn't like that, so here we are, so it goes. It's only a game.

 

[Storm4n]

Problem with this game is that there's no consistency, you advance to the point of Lisa taking your dick in the ass but you're on day 230 and she still gets mad you open the door to your room while she's changing.

Same with Alice, you fuck her on webcam, she's blown you with Kate, blown you in the sofa, blown you in the bathroom but GOD FORBID you dare knock on her room while she's changing even though she gave Eric a full show.

Now Ann, she blows you, she gives you HJ assistance but when it comes to punishment or her behaviour she's still full NUN.

This game needs some milestones/advance so when you're fucking someone on the daily they get a different set of events...

 

[kekzor]

Problem with this game is that there's no consistency, you advance to the point of Lisa taking your dick in the ass but you're on day 230 and she still gets mad you open the door to your room while she's changing.

Same with Alice, you fuck her on webcam, she's blown you with Kate, blown you in the sofa, blown you in the bathroom but GOD FORBID you dare knock on her room while she's changing even though she gave Eric a full show.

Now Ann, she blows you, she gives you HJ assistance but when it comes to punishment or her behaviour she's still full NUN.

This game needs some milestones/advance so when you're fucking someone on the daily they get a different set of events...

Agreed, mentioned tier unlocks through opportunities before as feedback

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[Skylaroo]

Ultimately, DS's call was to make a smaller crowd happy with Eric or spread the scope of the game to actually live up to the game's title and focus on a much more popular genre that his game was named after.

Sure, even when we were just talking about how easy it is to get rid of Eric, the conclusion of the post is how he shouldn't be in the game. Some people just can't stop talking about whether he should be in the game or not.

But a lot of people really, really didn't like that, so here we are, so it goes. It's only a game.

Not that I disagree with you, but people complained about Eric even before that scene (which I agree as the dumbest thing in the game and part of why DS' writing is lacking). People even complained about things that would only happen if Eric's influence got out of control, but his influence could easily be held in check if people just bothered playing the game properly. That's what I meant with it has always been easy to keep him in check.

The anti-Eric squad just doesn't want any rival in the game. That's why when Olivia's path progressed into introducing Alex, people already cried about him about to be the new Eric (which of course DS quickly put a stop by removing Alex soon after). Same happened when Kate was introduced, they also whinged that she'd be the new Eric just by her dominating Alice (which DS also quickly put a stop by turning their lesbian relationship into bisexual lol). They just want Max to be the only character that everyone wanted to have sex with exclusively. It is sadly what the majority of the players are like.

 

[cypr]

the problem is, DS started storylines with multiple paths and then just threw them away.
there were stats you have to keep in check, money, right decisions etc. (yes they needed more balance)

and then he started saying fuck it, i make a Visual Novel now, and who cares about the story of the first weeks of the game. i can't see how this should be resolved until 1.0 - on the contrary, he's starting other storylines every update and is increasing the mess.

 

[a1fox3]

All of you need to go read what you can on the Patreon page, all 3 Eric, Kate and Olivia was the plan from the beginning and just because some of them were not in the very start of the game and came in an update does not mean they were added because players want it.

There will be more characters in the future.

I for one love the game as it is but it can be way better with more content for all NPC's.

 

[micmitja]

Ok let me say something also before everyone start thinking you know what DS is thinking at least read what he have to say for him self. He is on this site and there aren't that many comments he made and if you cant read for shit use Google Chrome does wonders with translations from any to any language.

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he never told that hes abandoning other paths all he said that if you got rid off cuntface you wont see him again.

So be informed, read some, information is power.

Also he was only one man yes true he bite more than he could chew, but now they are 2 so lets see what will come out of that soup.