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Look, the Alice stuff gets less insufferable as the new content continues on, but it is SO BAD at the beginning that it not only throws people for a loop, it makes her nearly irredeemable. What's worse though is it once again makes Max a damn spectator in his own life when in the Alice route that was ceasing to be the case. She was becoming a more understanding, less bitchy person, and then just walked it all back for about half of this update. I'm also pissed that I can't punish her with Kate around anymore, I have her running my relationship with Lisa RIGHT AFTER (in gameplay terms) Kira finally let us do our own thing, and she just acts like an insufferable cunt.

She's just the next fucking dictator in line. First Mom ran the show, then Eric came in and took away all player agency, after he was gone Kira ran the entire plot, now its Alice. Is it that hard to write a even moderately proactive character in Max? He was that way early on, studying massage shit, using cigarettes to mess with Alice, getting Lisa to date him, or using her to get Olivia. All of those were HIM doing shit. Now it's follow the fucking leader.

Once the couch stuff moves ahead, she calms down a bit, which is needed, but that can just as easily be written up to DS being inconsistent as fuck as a writer.
 

Joshua Tree

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Sorry, guys.... I must have jinxed this game. I started patreon support about 3 months ago, and since then the updates have been pure shit. There's been way too many plot(?) twists coming from far left field * and character 180s ** to even consider having my support again. I've withdrawn my patronage so maybe the jinx can be lifted and DS can fix this clusterfuck.

* Not giving Max the option of refusing the pill, then having the drug effects from a single pill become permanent? Then a "doctor" that wants to derive the drug formula from semen rather than having Max obtain another pill for analysis?

** Having built up Alice as a borderline "M" (at least to Kate), showing growing feelings for Max and having her paranoid about being caught becoming a blackmailing dominatrix overnight?
You know its make me believe right? But if its believeable, that something quite else. It would made more sense if Max was given viagra, not some experiemental drug stuff. And the good doctor probably would had more success with take some proper bloodworks, not collect seemen for analysis, lol.

With scenes being so repetive, games such like this, screams for more content to flesh it out to give more randomized scenes as outcome.
 

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You know its make me believe right? But if its believeable, that something quite else. It would made more sense if Max was given viagra, not some experiemental drug stuff. And the good doctor probably would had more success with take some proper bloodworks, not collect seemen for analysis, lol.

With scenes being so repetive, games such like this, screams for more content to flesh it out to give more randomized scenes as outcome.
What the content needs is a few differently written scenes. Keep the same CG if you must, but give us a couple of variations on the writing.
 

Ayoitsher

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Well, im enjoying the new scenes so far. I just finished the 2nd new web cam show that includes Lisa. I also liked the new living room scenes with Alice. Nothing new with the doctor or Ann yet, but ill keep playing.
 
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Ophoenix

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A lot of the negative responses toward "new" Alice is basically knee jerk reaction and not paying attention.
I have to politely disagree that the reaction to Alice is a knee jerk. I am personally a straight male, who enjoys dominance and corruption. I do not judge those who enjoy submission, or other power exchange play from the submissive side but it is definitively not my personal cup of tea. When I play this particular game, I don't do anything other than make money and work on getting rid of Eric ASAP until he is gone. It was satisfying to me to defeat him, to tell him to his face that I had the upper hand, and then to immediately arrange to have him vanished and probably killed. Then I get to enjoy my new authority and control in my own personal harem without ever thinking about him again.

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My point being is that a negative reaction to a reversal of power dynamic, especially one that is not welcome or anticipated is to be expected. The knee jerk reaction was when I yelled at the computer and turned it off. It is not my current lack of desire to play this game in its present format. I think all people should have their kink catered to, and stroked. I also sincerely hope that the author finds a way to stroke the kinks of those who enjoy that kind of power shift, while at the same time allowing me the option of putting an uppity Alice back on her knees.
 

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OK, time for my 2 cents:

Alice:
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Lisa:
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Kira: No spoiler cause no Kira. -Sigh- we really need to see her story expanded, even tiny bits each update would be FAR better than what we have so far.

Ann/Mom: Lordy we need a SIGNIFICANT expansion for her. The little bits we got may lead to interesting things, but I'm a bit afraid of how bad this could become.

Good: YAY we got open legged pics of Alice. We need that to continue. Also need to have max GIVING pleasure to Ann/Mom in the future like he did to Alice this time.

Bad: Need the STUPID pill effects path to end. Just give us control and end this stupidity already.

Well, need to run so that's it for now.

Just some thoughts. :)
 

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What we need is a game "like" this where the Protag - is not a Cuck, has a nice sandbox (like this game does), with a similar high quality art style - for both backgrounds and characters, many more things to do (like at the beginning with cameras, books, on-line lessions etc) - that carry though out the "story" and doesn't just end....period, and where a Dev. - finishes a story line - before making 90 degree tangents to existing ones and / or keeps adding and changing content - before fixing or finishing what was released before.

Pretty sure he's a sissy boy and his "other" wears the "strap -on" or quite possibly doesn't need one!?

Started off fun - Eric came - it sucked - Eric left - got better - Kira was fun then became a bitch (why did Kira have to be anyone's teacher?) - it sucked - Alex started to "get" somewhere with Mom - got better - found out Mom had to be a porn-star (same shit with Alice's webcam) - got worse - Alex gets to go on a date with Lisa - was optimistic - but ....New character introduced - boom cock block! - worse again - now Alice?
Wtf - just hit delete / uninstall.

There must be something better???
Seriously - link me to a few if there are any?
is great - but looking for ones with a decent sandbox (or with quite a few choices) that are Non-NTR, Non-Cuck more chicks less dicks type of game?

Ps. - (Was starting to like - Lucky Mark but it went for a crap worse than this game. )

Back to VN's I guess for awhile.
 
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Squib2187

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so now that the dust has settled, is this update worth downloading and playing through the game for or should i wait another month?
 

Squib2187

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Unless you like Alice. This isn't worth downloading
Yeah I do (dat character model mang), but month over month the amount of new content added is pretty small so i wanted to wait a couple so i can actually get a worthwhile amount of content(thats why i havent played the last update yet either)
 

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I have to politely disagree that the reaction to Alice is a knee jerk. I am personally a straight male, who enjoys dominance and corruption. I do not judge those who enjoy submission, or other power exchange play from the submissive side but it is definitively not my personal cup of tea. When I play this particular game, I don't do anything other than make money and work on getting rid of Eric ASAP until he is gone. It was satisfying to me to defeat him, to tell him to his face that I had the upper hand, and then to immediately arrange to have him vanished and probably killed. Then I get to enjoy my new authority and control in my own personal harem without ever thinking about him again.

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My point being is that a negative reaction to a reversal of power dynamic, especially one that is not welcome or anticipated is to be expected. The knee jerk reaction was when I yelled at the computer and turned it off. It is not my current lack of desire to play this game in its present format. I think all people should have their kink catered to, and stroked. I also sincerely hope that the author finds a way to stroke the kinks of those who enjoy that kind of power shift, while at the same time allowing me the option of putting an uppity Alice back on her knees.
Go back to the game, play through the rest of the content, and you'll see that everything I said was correct.
Including my comment about knee jerk reaction, and yes, your response to what was happening at the point you quit is very much a knee jerk reaction - you reacted in a reflex manner that made you stop playing the game just because you didn't like where it was leading you.
I understand where you're coming from, but seriously, go back and finish what's available.

You already acknowledge the fact that the blackmail material leaves her in as much a bad position as both Max & Lisa, and after Kira, Alice is the next most cunning in the family, followed by Max (with guidance from Kira for more "advanced" matters) with Lisa coming in almost joint position during this update, and she's not stupid enough to actually follow through on her hollow threat.
Max & Lisa don't know, but as the outsider looking in, we the players are (or should be) smart enough to know she won't ever do jack shit with the recording, aside from masturbate a few times when nobody's around.

There's absolutely no "submission" to Alice in the way of being her bitch.
It's a temporary illusion she's using to get closer, physically and emotionally with both her siblings, not just occasional fucking & sucking with Max.
Hell, for things only relating to Max, it very quickly turns into mutual pleasuring of each other (leading to a new dynamic with Ann when she catches them).


Going from what I've seen in the update (continuing from a 0.10 save at the end of the last content) everyone else is maneuvering themselves into helping Max get with the mother for more than just handjobs & oral, and that includes Alice and Lisa, as a direct result of Alice's initial "blackmail", and how it proves to be more than what was initially thought.
 

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idk but the pics are fine but not animations has made this game 2nd tier or less for me
almost most artists do something for animation now
 

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Go back to the game, play through the rest of the content, and you'll see that everything I said was correct.
Including my comment about knee jerk reaction, and yes, your response to what was happening at the point you quit is very much a knee jerk reaction - you reacted in a reflex manner that made you stop playing the game just because you didn't like where it was leading you.
I understand where you're coming from, but seriously, go back and finish what's available.

You already acknowledge the fact that the blackmail material leaves her in as much a bad position as both Max & Lisa, and after Kira, Alice is the next most cunning in the family, followed by Max (with guidance from Kira for more "advanced" matters) with Lisa coming in almost joint position during this update, and she's not stupid enough to actually follow through on her hollow threat.
Max & Lisa don't know, but as the outsider looking in, we the players are (or should be) smart enough to know she won't ever do jack shit with the recording, aside from masturbate a few times when nobody's around.

There's absolutely no "submission" to Alice in the way of being her bitch.
It's a temporary illusion she's using to get closer, physically and emotionally with both her siblings, not just occasional fucking & sucking with Max.
Hell, for things only relating to Max, it very quickly turns into mutual pleasuring of each other (leading to a new dynamic with Ann when she catches them).


Going from what I've seen in the update (continuing from a 0.10 save at the end of the last content) everyone else is maneuvering themselves into helping Max get with the mother for more than just handjobs & oral, and that includes Alice and Lisa, as a direct result of Alice's initial "blackmail", and how it proves to be more than what was initially thought.
I feel far too many complain as soon as things dont the way they want them to... But I honestly think some forget that everything happens in a sequence, To lead us to where we want things to go in the future. (Corruption does not happen over night in a situation such as this... give it time. If it was a wham bam thank you ma'am then the game would already be over.) Just because it didnt happen in this release does not mean it wont happen in another. I happen to like what was released. It gives the story more ground more substance and I have to agree with @Snugglepuff Alice wouldnt dream of messing up something she loves to do. She even says a few times she loves the time she spends with Max and Lisa in the sexual manners. She just wants more and to have fun with it.
And if you dont like the game or how its going... Hey... no one is going to force you to keep playing. There are plenty of others to play.. JS.
 
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I feel far too many complain as soon as things dont the way they want them to... But I honestly think some forget that everything happens in a sequence, To lead us to where we want things to go in the future. (Corruption does not happen over night in a situation such as this... give it time. If it was a wham bam thank you mam then the game would already be over.) Just because it didnt happen in this release does not mean it wont happen in another. I happen to like what was released. It gives the story more ground more substance and I have to agree with @Snugglepuff Alice wouldnt dream of messing up something she loves to do. She even says a few times she loves the time she spends with Max and Lisa in the sexual manners. She just wants more and to have fun with it.
And if you dont like the game or how its going... Hey... no one is going to force you to keep playing. There are plenty of others to play.. JS.
People make the mistake of reading too much into what the characters do. I used to do it all the time with this game. There is not nearly as much hidden meaning in the game as we think. We see something that's inconsistent with a character's past behavior, or doing something that doesn't make obvious sense, and we go "hmm, I wonder what's up there?" Here's the simple answer: bad writing.
 

iranomaya

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There's absolutely no "submission" to Alice in the way of being her bitch.
I'll have to take your word for it, though the fact that she apparently gets to spank you makes me doubt it. Regardless, the new content has her being in conrol, and I don't accept that.

Just because it didnt happen in this release does not mean it wont happen in another.
That's fine. I hope it does. In fact, I think it probably will. But until then I'm not playing new releases or supporting the game monetarily.
 
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