Unity Abandoned Big Brother [v0.13.0.007] [Dark Silver]

[Asphyx]

The problem with ironing out the inconsistencies is that people can't agree what the story should actually be. A lot of people want some romance, with Max less of an asshole. Others want Eric back. Some want a BDSM game, or a voyeuristic game, or a corruption one. We've had elements or hints of all of those. DS should have just picked one and stuck with it. What keeps a lot of people playing is the hope that DS will bring the game back on the "right" course. Except everyone has a different idea of what that is, and often finds the inclusion of the other elements frustrating. It would be one thing if the game had different paths to include these different options. But all the branches are being taken out of the game. It's effectively a visual novel now.

The game could have ALL of those....Each Woman would have her own angle to the type of sex they will have...
Which is what makes MotH so great...Each character fits into a different track, One willing (Little Sister), One Hesitant/Conflicted (Mother) and one Dominated (Older Sister)

DS could have easily done the same thing in this game but he doesn't have the desire or the understanding to do that.
He doesn't get incest so all the characters are sexed up by BDSM and Control since that is what turns him on where Incest does not.

 

[jamievalero]

I actually think DS had a story planed for this game. But it was entirely different from what it is now.

The way I feel, this game's begining makes it clear that originally DS intended the story to be centered around Eric corrupting all the girl in the house while Max played the role of a voyeur. He would make use of his fetish by strategically placing cameras around the house and setting up a website to stream them. Eventually he would reach an agreement with Eric and they would both benefit from it by getting money from the site. The money would increase exponentially the more Eric corrupted the girls up to the point where they would be okay to have Max watch them and even participate (you can see this starting with Ann). So, after some time they would be set for life, while bot Eric and Max would fuck all of the girls and getting good money from it.

While I don't like the premisse of this (I don't really like someone other than me banging the girls), I can see this story happening, and being extremely good. Saddly, DS sucumbed to patron's pressure and started scrapping his story only to keep patrons from withdrawing their pledges.

Well, that's one way to go about the story, but in order to make it acceptable, it has to be something like "Breaking Bad" -- Max's descent into the torrid world of the dom/sub sex industry. Kinda edgy, and it has to have a tragic ending in order to make it, erm, tasteful (for lack of a better word) and to retain its edginess.

If he has to succumb to patron pressure, I'd suggest turning it into a "Modern Family" sort of dom/sub incest story (as in family-friendly, I meant, in a twisted x-rated sorta way, lol). There is a reason why "Modern Family" has 9 seasons and is still going strong, while "Breaking Bad" has only 5 and has ended already for a couple of years now.

 

[Lykanz]

Why was there an Online Course for Massage if Max was never meant to touch the women?

I never said Max wasn't supposed to touch women... Maybe that was one of the things that would make them more "open" to have him around while being impaled by Eric's pencil dick.

Why was the LisaGF path there from the get go?

AFAIK, true Lisa GF path wasn't introduced before 0.3 or so...

Alice's Blog was there from the start as well!

So? That doesn't mean anything.

All in all, I don't disagree that DS doesn't know the dynamics of an incest story, or that he may have a totally diferent take on it.

What I said is that it's clear he had something else planned, and that all of it was scrapped due to patron's pressure.

 

[Lykanz]

Well, that's one way to go about the story, but in order to make it acceptable, it has to be something like "Breaking Bad" -- Max's descent into the torrid world of the dom/sub sex industry. Kinda edgy, and it has to have a tragic ending in order to make it, erm, tasteful (for lack of a better word) and to retain its edginess.

If he has to succumb to patron pressure, I'd suggest turning it into a "Modern Family" sort of dom/sub incest story (as in family-friendly, I meant, in a twisted x-rated sorta way, lol). There is a reason why "Modern Family" has 9 seasons and is still going strong, while "Breaking Bad" has only 5 and has ended already for a couple of years now.

Yeah, that was just the bones of what I think he had planned, ofc.

 

[Asphyx]

I never said Max wasn't supposed to touch women... Maybe that was one of the things that would make them more "open" to have him around while being impaled by Eric's pencil dick.



AFAIK, true Lisa GF path wasn't introduced before 0.3 or so...



So? That doesn't mean anything.

All in all, I don't disagree that DS doesn't know the dynamics of an incest story, or that he may have a totally diferent take on it.

What I said is that it's clear he had something else planned, and that all of it was scrapped due to patron's pressure.

If he was going to touch the women the Eric served no purpose especially considering his desire to not let Max touch them.
LisaGF was not a fully realized path but from V2 she came home from school and started talking about Alex and Olivia.

Eric was just a convenient way for DS to get around his mental block regarding Incest and allowing him to put sexual situations into a game. Cause he had no idea how to get them with Max since none of them fit the personality profile DS thinks is required to start Incest.
He certainly intended to write an incest game when he started and Eric may have been part of it, but he soon realized he had issue writing an incest story and made Eric what he became.

 

[Hlextor]

DS sucumbed to patron's pressure and started scrapping his story only to keep patrons from withdrawing their pledges.

... that‘s it, fortunately!
and @All Eric fans: no money, no funny penedeyewink:

 

[Dragon628]

guys can someone help me please does there some mods that add story in this game please can someone pm me or link here thanks in addition

 

[jamievalero]

If he was going to touch the women the Eric served no purpose especially considering his desire to not let Max touch them.
LisaGF was not a fully realized path but from V2 she came home from school and started talking about Alex and Olivia.

Eric was just a convenient way for DS to get around his mental block regarding Incest and allowing him to put sexual situations into a game. Cause he had no idea how to get them with Max since none of them fit the personality profile DS thinks is required to start Incest.
He certainly intended to write an incest game when he started and Eric may have been part of it, but he soon realized he had issue writing an incest story and made Eric what he became.

In this sense, I think you're right: Eric is important because in order for an incest story to work from an Oedipus complex point of view, there has to be a father figure for Max to try and displace to get at her mom. When Max won against Eric, the next logical step should be for Max win his Mom, which didn't happen story-wise.

Still, I think introducing Eric is important for Max to get at his mom from an incest point of view.

I think at this point Lisa seeing Max as a means to fool around sexually is ok since Lisa is kinda sheltered. For the life of me I don't know what Alice sees in Max since she goes to clubs to flirt with other guys -- the lesbian angle solved that, but there should then be another plot on how Max turns Alice hetero, otherwise it doesn't make sense that they're doing it on a regular basis, especially during the Arachnophobia opportunity. From an incest point of view, that changes once Alice sees Max as a father figure (same with Lisa)...

TLDR: I think you're right: either DS doesn't get incest or the game is not structured to be an incest story so far, that's why I've always felt the Alice story angle is kinda weak (unless this story is about big dicks and its effect on women, lol).

 

[Kaine1994]

Seems like a very sophisticated game but the unreal grind plus the lack of actual cutscenes is not for me.
Sadly.

 

[dickermax]

but fact

 

[Hawkthorn]

guys can someone help me please does there some mods that add story in this game please can someone pm me or link here thanks in addition

Currently playing around with the seduction mod,

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Adds a llot of Ann (mom) and Kira, I think more, but I have not got that far.

 

[MiniCap]

900 to early

 

[MiniCap]

900

 

[jamievalero]

The game could have ALL of those....Each Woman would have her own angle to the type of sex they will have...
Which is what makes MotH so great...Each character fits into a different track, One willing (Little Sister), One Hesitant/Conflicted (Mother) and one Dominated (Older Sister)

DS could have easily done the same thing in this game but he doesn't have the desire or the understanding to do that.
He doesn't get incest so all the characters are sexed up by BDSM and Control since that is what turns him on where Incest does not.

I like the way you are thinking in this post, just wanted to share ideas to incorporate both BDSM and Control into the Incest plots in the game and to tie it all together --

Evolve Max from a "Tom Sawyer" pervy moronic little brother into a "Father Knows Best" father figure, and subjugate his mom and sisters into his little daughters (or wife in the case of Ann) who are dominated so that they are not allowed to grow up: play it so that Max has to fend off every boy that tries to approach Lisa, reduce Alice into a submissive daughter and cut off her attempts to be a dominating big sister, then regress Ann into that victim she once was when she was younger (after which fix her up as a dom mother who dominates her kids, but who submits as wife to Max the Dark Father) -- there, one big happy BDSM/Incest Modern Family. (Edit: Oh, and Kira becomes co-wife, just to add bigamy into the mix. )

If DS wants to include Vicky and Olivia into this grand master plan, then evolve Max further into the "Millionaire Playboy" or better yet the "MOFO pimp" trope (as they say it in the ghettos) -- Max is going to need acquisitions to further his thriving porn empire, so he has to impress those girls with his alpha male status -- bling, gold cane, pimp automobile, the works.

Just my 2 cents (I'd normally charge more for this, but hey, I like this game, interested in seeing it become the best that it could potentially be).

 

[maxpecker29]

You my friend need to play a lot more games....Either that or define what genre you think this is the gold standard for, Cause it sure isn't the Incest Genre! LOL

You should take a look here

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Wow, I'm actually surprised that anyone would even read my long rant. Rest assured that I have indeed played Man of the House (2 playthroughs) and while I am very fond of that game and will certainly play it again (if another version ever comes out), I still think that Big Brother is a somewhat better game. Also, MotH isn't exactly free of repetitive grinding.

 

[Burai]

I guess going the Olivia route means LisaGF route is dead right?

 

[Snugglepuff]

I guess going the Olivia route means LisaGF route is dead right?

For now, yes, but the two paths are being merged in the future.
Whilst 0.12 is updating Olivia's content (and introducing her mother), I'm not sure if the merging is happening in next update or not.

 

[JohnPonn]

Whatever helps you sleep at night man. You do know that people can and do lie.

Of course people lie. But these are fictional characters on a script at work. They say and mean whats written. It's written on at least 4 diffrent talks between characters ingame that "nothing" other then teaching verbally went on. After Eric steels Sex-ed from Max on the friends route you can get her back by grabbing a snappshot of Eric wanking off to Alice. He says, You want Lisa back?.. Ok have her. Shes young inexperienced and boring. (He doesent even try to convince Max otherwice because obviolsy the Sex-ed bores him as well and was a small price to pay.)

Ann would rather throw herself on the sword then let anything spoil or ravage her precious Lisa. She basically does anything to keep her away from all sexual encounters. How would that fit with letting Eric spoil, ravage and fuck her? This doesent make sense from any aspect of the story. The one precious thing in Anns life is Lisa. This part of the story has been consistent weather your an Eric fan, or hater. (And ofc the lingering question about Lisa beeing a virgin and how that actually worked if they did have sex..) We know she's still a virgin after..

You can't rewrite a book or a move once its complete. BB is at this pont written in parts and thoes parts will never be rewritten. (Yes they could, but never will be). No Sex ever happend between Eric & Lisa (as it is written to this point).

Facts make me sleep at night and fantasy or wishes makes me dream

 

[DarkSilver]

I guess going the Olivia route means LisaGF route is dead right?

They will be merged

 

[DarkSilver]

One thing I noticed in DS' characters is that they have anything BUT consistent personalities.

For example:

Lisa plays the innocent little sister, so far so good, then she starts getting dirtier and dirtier with her brother untill they reach full fledged anal sex anywhere, then she goes back to "I want a boyfriend, someone who I can trust to give my first time" and starts going to dates with max just to shortly after that go back to "Meh, I don't mind you fucking other girls, as long as I can watch, maybe, just maaaaaybe I'll join".

Ann starts as the strict mother, that uses physical punishments (aka spanking) too "keep her children in line", but then she turns out to be a submissive woman who's not right in the head, then she turns bissexual with her own sister and then becomes porn actress, all that while still hypocritically using her strict mother persona.

Alice starts as the stereotypical elder sister, authoritative, loathes his younger brother but then turns out to be a submissive bisexual who would even let her brother fuck her if it pleases her dom, then she suddenly turns into a dom herself.

Yep, fickle as fickle can be.

Because it's a fictional porn game. I don't believe that you want to see 2-years-transformation for characters presonality, right?