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Hawkthorn
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Currently playing around with the seduction mod,
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Adds a llot of Ann (mom) and Kira, I think more, but I have not got that far.I like the way you are thinking in this post, just wanted to share ideas to incorporate both BDSM and Control into the Incest plots in the game and to tie it all together --
Evolve Max from a "Tom Sawyer" pervy moronic little brother into a "Father Knows Best" father figure, and subjugate his mom and sisters into his little daughters (or wife in the case of Ann) who are dominated so that they are not allowed to grow up: play it so that Max has to fend off every boy that tries to approach Lisa, reduce Alice into a submissive daughter and cut off her attempts to be a dominating big sister, then regress Ann into that victim she once was when she was younger (after which fix her up as a dom mother who dominates her kids, but who submits as wife to Max the Dark Father) -- there, one big happy BDSM/Incest Modern Family. (Edit: Oh, and Kira becomes co-wife, just to add bigamy into the mix.
)If DS wants to include Vicky and Olivia into this grand master plan, then evolve Max further into the "Millionaire Playboy" or better yet the "MOFO pimp" trope (as they say it in the ghettos) -- Max is going to need acquisitions to further his thriving porn empire, so he has to impress those girls with his alpha male status -- bling, gold cane, pimp automobile, the works.
Just my 2 cents (I'd normally charge more for this, but hey, I like this game, interested in seeing it become the best that it could potentially be).
Wow, I'm actually surprised that anyone would even read my long rant. Rest assured that I have indeed played Man of the House (2 playthroughs) and while I am very fond of that game and will certainly play it again (if another version ever comes out), I still think that Big Brother is a somewhat better game. Also, MotH isn't exactly free of repetitive grinding.
For now, yes, but the two paths are being merged in the future.
Whilst 0.12 is updating Olivia's content (and introducing her mother), I'm not sure if the merging is happening in next update or not.
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Of course people lie. But these are fictional characters on a script at work. They say and mean whats written. It's written on at least 4 diffrent talks between characters ingame that "nothing" other then teaching verbally went on. After Eric steels Sex-ed from Max on the friends route you can get her back by grabbing a snappshot of Eric wanking off to Alice. He says, You want Lisa back?.. Ok have her. Shes young inexperienced and boring. (He doesent even try to convince Max otherwice because obviolsy the Sex-ed bores him as well and was a small price to pay.)
Ann would rather throw herself on the sword then let anything spoil or ravage her precious Lisa. She basically does anything to keep her away from all sexual encounters. How would that fit with letting Eric spoil, ravage and fuck her? This doesent make sense from any aspect of the story. The one precious thing in Anns life is Lisa. This part of the story has been consistent weather your an Eric fan, or hater. (And ofc the lingering question about Lisa beeing a virgin and how that actually worked if they did have sex..) We know she's still a virgin after..
You can't rewrite a book or a move once its complete. BB is at this pont written in parts and thoes parts will never be rewritten. (Yes they could, but never will be). No Sex ever happend between Eric & Lisa (as it is written to this point).
Facts make me sleep at night and fantasy or wishes makes me dream
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Because it's a fictional porn game. I don't believe that you want to see 2-years-transformation for characters presonality, right?
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Will they be merged from the Olivia side as well? Like if you started on the Olivia route, can you them move to the Lisa GF route?
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Nah, I get what you're saying. What I meant is that it all happens too sudden, way too sudden to be honest. It just feels... Strange.
Anyway, don't take what I say as offenses, even if I don't pledge you anymore, I actually like your game as I said many times before, it's just the story is inconsistent most of the time. But hey, that's what happens with most wegs out there, specially the ones involving incest.
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Salutations, DarkSilver! Just played the game recently, and I just wanted to say I really liked what I played. One of the strongest features of your game is the Opportunities feature. I think the way the Opportunities feature of the game works, the number of opportunities present and its depth makes it possible for players to connect with your characters based on their progression in the Opportunities tab. I also like how progression in Relationship level is driven by progression in the Opportunities tab. This results in players filling in the gap in the overall story of BB so far, making the story of BB their own as we speculate what the progression in these opportunities mean to the characters of the story -- this is a stroke of genius that differentiates your game from the usual stat building mechanics of other games of a similar nature that designs events and sex-scene rewards based on attaining main character stats goals.
The Opportunities feature is a great narrative device that I have only seen in your porn game so far. I really appreciate this, and I hope you continue developing this in the future.
). Lol, I agree, this isn't real life, it's a fictional porn game, and I'm with you in that respect. Just to connect this thought with what I said earlier about the Opportunities feature, though, I think the fact that there is narrative progression via the Opportunities tab implies that you are already telling a story that impacts how players view the characters in your story.
For instance, one great character in your game is Eric -- the fact that I hated him after that first conversation about his intentions on my mom and sisters made me hate him with a burning passion equivalent to a thousand suns. The fact that I have such a visceral hate towards him is great writing on your part. The fact that I chose to go to war with him right from the get-go after that conversation says something about how I want Max to be -- someone who has a fiercely protective attitude towards my family, which is who I am. There are feedback on these choices in the "Alpha Male" vertical tab of the Opportunities menu screen, and I think that's pretty good.
I feel what would be even better is an additional vertical tab in the Opportunities menu screen titled "Max's story so far...", it could be the first tab there, that shows the history of Max's choices when these narrative events come up. Such a tab would have 2 purposes: 1.) it's an easy way for the player to see if the Opportunities tab has updated or not based on their gameplay, 2.) it creates a sense that there is a history and a trajectory to Max's character based on WHEN he made those choices -- if he goes to war with Eric early, Max is shaping up to be a manly man, the Alpha lion who will defend his pride when necessary; and if he goes to war with Eric late (which I never tried, I hate Eric too much), he's a skeevy little prick. Even if this is not explicitly told in that tab, it's a Max character story that the players can make up for themselves, and could even discuss in these forums.
TLDR: thank you for showing up in the forums, I really appreciate your game a lot. I seldom play porn games, but yours hooked me and made me waste more time than I wanted -- that means you did a great job! I'm afraid I have to start weaning myself away from it, the two days I spent playing it means I'm starting to get addicted, lol.
The Opportunities feature is a great narrative device that I have only seen in your porn game so far. I really appreciate this, and I hope you continue developing this in the future.
In reality, moments of self-reflection between important events in one's life triggers increasing self-awareness that transforms people's character and personality (TLDR: it's not time but experience that builds character, I can't help getting long-winded at times, so I beg for your indulgence on this.
). Lol, I agree, this isn't real life, it's a fictional porn game, and I'm with you in that respect. Just to connect this thought with what I said earlier about the Opportunities feature, though, I think the fact that there is narrative progression via the Opportunities tab implies that you are already telling a story that impacts how players view the characters in your story.For instance, one great character in your game is Eric -- the fact that I hated him after that first conversation about his intentions on my mom and sisters made me hate him with a burning passion equivalent to a thousand suns. The fact that I have such a visceral hate towards him is great writing on your part. The fact that I chose to go to war with him right from the get-go after that conversation says something about how I want Max to be -- someone who has a fiercely protective attitude towards my family, which is who I am. There are feedback on these choices in the "Alpha Male" vertical tab of the Opportunities menu screen, and I think that's pretty good.
I feel what would be even better is an additional vertical tab in the Opportunities menu screen titled "Max's story so far...", it could be the first tab there, that shows the history of Max's choices when these narrative events come up. Such a tab would have 2 purposes: 1.) it's an easy way for the player to see if the Opportunities tab has updated or not based on their gameplay, 2.) it creates a sense that there is a history and a trajectory to Max's character based on WHEN he made those choices -- if he goes to war with Eric early, Max is shaping up to be a manly man, the Alpha lion who will defend his pride when necessary; and if he goes to war with Eric late (which I never tried, I hate Eric too much), he's a skeevy little prick. Even if this is not explicitly told in that tab, it's a Max character story that the players can make up for themselves, and could even discuss in these forums.
TLDR: thank you for showing up in the forums, I really appreciate your game a lot. I seldom play porn games, but yours hooked me and made me waste more time than I wanted -- that means you did a great job! I'm afraid I have to start weaning myself away from it, the two days I spent playing it means I'm starting to get addicted, lol.
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Wow, such a long feedback. I agree that opportunities are a better version of quests and they make game more interresting for players. The most of the positive aspects of the game were introduced in first 3-4 updates. Afterwards, the development lost its sparkle/creativity. Sometimes is very hard to overcome your previos achievements. Nevertheless, BB is one of the best game in its category.Salutations, DarkSilver! Just played the game recently, and I just wanted to say I really liked what I played. One of the strongest features of your game is the Opportunities feature. I think the way the Opportunities feature of the game works, the number of opportunities present and its depth makes it possible for players to connect with your characters based on their progression in the Opportunities tab. I also like how progression in Relationship level is driven by progression in the Opportunities tab. This results in players filling in the gap in the overall story of BB so far, making the story of BB their own as we speculate what the progression in these opportunities mean to the characters of the story -- this is a stroke of genius that differentiates your game from the usual stat building mechanics of other games of a similar nature that designs events and sex-scene rewards based on attaining main character stats goals.
The Opportunities feature is a great narrative device that I have only seen in your porn game so far. I really appreciate this, and I hope you continue developing this in the future.
In reality, moments of self-reflection between important events in one's life triggers increasing self-awareness that transforms people's character and personality (TLDR: it's not time but experience that builds character, I can't help getting long-winded at times, so I beg for your indulgence on this.
For instance, one great character in your game is Eric -- the fact that I hated him after that first conversation about his intentions on my mom and sisters made me hate him with a burning passion equivalent to a thousand suns. The fact that I have such a visceral hate towards him is great writing on your part. The fact that I chose to go to war with him right from the get-go after that conversation says something about how I want Max to be -- someone who has a fiercely protective attitude towards my family, which is who I am. There are feedback on these choices in the "Alpha Male" vertical tab of the Opportunities menu screen, and I think that's pretty good.
I feel what would be even better is an additional vertical tab in the Opportunities menu screen titled "Max's story so far...", it could be the first tab there, that shows the history of Max's choices when these narrative events come up. Such a tab would have 2 purposes: 1.) it's an easy way for the player to see if the Opportunities tab has updated or not based on their gameplay, 2.) it creates a sense that there is a history and a trajectory to Max's character based on WHEN he made those choices -- if he goes to war with Eric early, Max is shaping up to be a manly man, the Alpha lion who will defend his pride when necessary; and if he goes to war with Eric late (which I never tried, I hate Eric too much), he's a skeevy little prick. Even if this is not explicitly told in that tab, it's a Max character story that the players can make up for themselves, and could even discuss in these forums.
TLDR: thank you for showing up in the forums, I really appreciate your game a lot. I seldom play porn games, but yours hooked me and made me waste more time than I wanted -- that means you did a great job! I'm afraid I have to start weaning myself away from it, the two days I spent playing it means I'm starting to get addicted, lol.
I'm usually a lurker on this forum, but I just wanted to give DarkSilver a huge thank you from me. It's a fantastic game (one of the best in the 'adult genre') with plenty of character development.
Oh, writing about writing stories is easy for me, I'm a writer by profession, so it comes easy and naturally for me.
Writing characters for a story is very hard, though. For example, getting under the skin of Lisa would be difficult for me since I'm not a little girl who is at the cusp of being a woman. In order to get under Lisa's skin, I'd have to figure out who she is, imagine her idiosyncrasies, write those general characteristics out, all the while listening to what I think her favorite music is (part of my creative process) -- Taylor Swift, or maybe buy song downloads of those detestable boy bands I don't like very much.
As other posters already implied in their posts, writing great believable characters isn't part of DS's skillset -- all things considered, though, the plotting he did to come up with his Opportunities list to tie the sex scenes together is well done. I also sense that there are certain directions he wanted to go to in terms of character development that he couldn't pursue because of what I think are time constraints of his dev schedule. For instance, that smoking incident with Alice where she says she smokes because it reminds her of her father -- that is a great hook to expand Alice's daddy issues. DS cut that off by making Alice say that it doesn't matter to her, but it obviously does because she persists in smoking Lucky Strike instead of one of those girly fruit cigarettes. I can go into some other "hook sentences" in DS's writing that goes unexplored, but the gist of what I want to say is that while DS is not a professional writer, imo he knows the basics -- it's good enough to make me think what he's done so far is good enough, far from perfect, but still very good considering the vast sea of shallow writing in the majority of porn games (most are atrociously bad, lol).
I looked into some games in the F95zone forums, there are some which are possibly better written than BB. I'm hesitant to try them out, though, because I don't want to get addicted too much to games like this, lol. There's this Blizzard game called Diablo 3, and I played it so much that I think I clocked a couple of hundred hours in that game. I remember feeling that I have to play one... more... hour... despite the fact that I don't want to play it anymore because that game is so freaking repetitive. That feeling of game addiction Diablo 3 elicited in me as a player, I started feeling it for BB -- get Lisa to show me her tits one... more... time... I really need... that ... Lisa progression... At that point, I knew it wasn't healthy anymore after doing Lisa's homework 20 times already, that's why I just had to look at the BB walkthrough at that point, lol. That's when I knew DS developed a great game. For the sake of my sanity, though, I'd go for a more "fap-and-go" sort of games in the future, lolol.