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Salutations, DarkSilver! Just played the game recently, and I just wanted to say I really liked what I played. One of the strongest features of your game is the Opportunities feature. I think the way the Opportunities feature of the game works, the number of opportunities present and its depth makes it possible for players to connect with your characters based on their progression in the Opportunities tab. I also like how progression in Relationship level is driven by progression in the Opportunities tab. This results in players filling in the gap in the overall story of BB so far, making the story of BB their own as we speculate what the progression in these opportunities mean to the characters of the story -- this is a stroke of genius that differentiates your game from the usual stat building mechanics of other games of a similar nature that designs events and sex-scene rewards based on attaining main character stats goals.
The Opportunities feature is a great narrative device that I have only seen in your porn game so far. I really appreciate this, and I hope you continue developing this in the future.
). Lol, I agree, this isn't real life, it's a fictional porn game, and I'm with you in that respect. Just to connect this thought with what I said earlier about the Opportunities feature, though, I think the fact that there is narrative progression via the Opportunities tab implies that you are already telling a story that impacts how players view the characters in your story.
For instance, one great character in your game is Eric -- the fact that I hated him after that first conversation about his intentions on my mom and sisters made me hate him with a burning passion equivalent to a thousand suns. The fact that I have such a visceral hate towards him is great writing on your part. The fact that I chose to go to war with him right from the get-go after that conversation says something about how I want Max to be -- someone who has a fiercely protective attitude towards my family, which is who I am. There are feedback on these choices in the "Alpha Male" vertical tab of the Opportunities menu screen, and I think that's pretty good.
I feel what would be even better is an additional vertical tab in the Opportunities menu screen titled "Max's story so far...", it could be the first tab there, that shows the history of Max's choices when these narrative events come up. Such a tab would have 2 purposes: 1.) it's an easy way for the player to see if the Opportunities tab has updated or not based on their gameplay, 2.) it creates a sense that there is a history and a trajectory to Max's character based on WHEN he made those choices -- if he goes to war with Eric early, Max is shaping up to be a manly man, the Alpha lion who will defend his pride when necessary; and if he goes to war with Eric late (which I never tried, I hate Eric too much), he's a skeevy little prick. Even if this is not explicitly told in that tab, it's a Max character story that the players can make up for themselves, and could even discuss in these forums.
TLDR: thank you for showing up in the forums, I really appreciate your game a lot. I seldom play porn games, but yours hooked me and made me waste more time than I wanted -- that means you did a great job! I'm afraid I have to start weaning myself away from it, the two days I spent playing it means I'm starting to get addicted, lol.
The Opportunities feature is a great narrative device that I have only seen in your porn game so far. I really appreciate this, and I hope you continue developing this in the future.
In reality, moments of self-reflection between important events in one's life triggers increasing self-awareness that transforms people's character and personality (TLDR: it's not time but experience that builds character, I can't help getting long-winded at times, so I beg for your indulgence on this.
). Lol, I agree, this isn't real life, it's a fictional porn game, and I'm with you in that respect. Just to connect this thought with what I said earlier about the Opportunities feature, though, I think the fact that there is narrative progression via the Opportunities tab implies that you are already telling a story that impacts how players view the characters in your story.For instance, one great character in your game is Eric -- the fact that I hated him after that first conversation about his intentions on my mom and sisters made me hate him with a burning passion equivalent to a thousand suns. The fact that I have such a visceral hate towards him is great writing on your part. The fact that I chose to go to war with him right from the get-go after that conversation says something about how I want Max to be -- someone who has a fiercely protective attitude towards my family, which is who I am. There are feedback on these choices in the "Alpha Male" vertical tab of the Opportunities menu screen, and I think that's pretty good.
I feel what would be even better is an additional vertical tab in the Opportunities menu screen titled "Max's story so far...", it could be the first tab there, that shows the history of Max's choices when these narrative events come up. Such a tab would have 2 purposes: 1.) it's an easy way for the player to see if the Opportunities tab has updated or not based on their gameplay, 2.) it creates a sense that there is a history and a trajectory to Max's character based on WHEN he made those choices -- if he goes to war with Eric early, Max is shaping up to be a manly man, the Alpha lion who will defend his pride when necessary; and if he goes to war with Eric late (which I never tried, I hate Eric too much), he's a skeevy little prick. Even if this is not explicitly told in that tab, it's a Max character story that the players can make up for themselves, and could even discuss in these forums.
TLDR: thank you for showing up in the forums, I really appreciate your game a lot. I seldom play porn games, but yours hooked me and made me waste more time than I wanted -- that means you did a great job! I'm afraid I have to start weaning myself away from it, the two days I spent playing it means I'm starting to get addicted, lol.
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Wow, such a long feedback. I agree that opportunities are a better version of quests and they make game more interresting for players. The most of the positive aspects of the game were introduced in first 3-4 updates. Afterwards, the development lost its sparkle/creativity. Sometimes is very hard to overcome your previos achievements. Nevertheless, BB is one of the best game in its category.Salutations, DarkSilver! Just played the game recently, and I just wanted to say I really liked what I played. One of the strongest features of your game is the Opportunities feature. I think the way the Opportunities feature of the game works, the number of opportunities present and its depth makes it possible for players to connect with your characters based on their progression in the Opportunities tab. I also like how progression in Relationship level is driven by progression in the Opportunities tab. This results in players filling in the gap in the overall story of BB so far, making the story of BB their own as we speculate what the progression in these opportunities mean to the characters of the story -- this is a stroke of genius that differentiates your game from the usual stat building mechanics of other games of a similar nature that designs events and sex-scene rewards based on attaining main character stats goals.
The Opportunities feature is a great narrative device that I have only seen in your porn game so far. I really appreciate this, and I hope you continue developing this in the future.
In reality, moments of self-reflection between important events in one's life triggers increasing self-awareness that transforms people's character and personality (TLDR: it's not time but experience that builds character, I can't help getting long-winded at times, so I beg for your indulgence on this.
For instance, one great character in your game is Eric -- the fact that I hated him after that first conversation about his intentions on my mom and sisters made me hate him with a burning passion equivalent to a thousand suns. The fact that I have such a visceral hate towards him is great writing on your part. The fact that I chose to go to war with him right from the get-go after that conversation says something about how I want Max to be -- someone who has a fiercely protective attitude towards my family, which is who I am. There are feedback on these choices in the "Alpha Male" vertical tab of the Opportunities menu screen, and I think that's pretty good.
I feel what would be even better is an additional vertical tab in the Opportunities menu screen titled "Max's story so far...", it could be the first tab there, that shows the history of Max's choices when these narrative events come up. Such a tab would have 2 purposes: 1.) it's an easy way for the player to see if the Opportunities tab has updated or not based on their gameplay, 2.) it creates a sense that there is a history and a trajectory to Max's character based on WHEN he made those choices -- if he goes to war with Eric early, Max is shaping up to be a manly man, the Alpha lion who will defend his pride when necessary; and if he goes to war with Eric late (which I never tried, I hate Eric too much), he's a skeevy little prick. Even if this is not explicitly told in that tab, it's a Max character story that the players can make up for themselves, and could even discuss in these forums.
TLDR: thank you for showing up in the forums, I really appreciate your game a lot. I seldom play porn games, but yours hooked me and made me waste more time than I wanted -- that means you did a great job! I'm afraid I have to start weaning myself away from it, the two days I spent playing it means I'm starting to get addicted, lol.
I'm usually a lurker on this forum, but I just wanted to give DarkSilver a huge thank you from me. It's a fantastic game (one of the best in the 'adult genre') with plenty of character development.
Oh, writing about writing stories is easy for me, I'm a writer by profession, so it comes easy and naturally for me.
Writing characters for a story is very hard, though. For example, getting under the skin of Lisa would be difficult for me since I'm not a little girl who is at the cusp of being a woman. In order to get under Lisa's skin, I'd have to figure out who she is, imagine her idiosyncrasies, write those general characteristics out, all the while listening to what I think her favorite music is (part of my creative process) -- Taylor Swift, or maybe buy song downloads of those detestable boy bands I don't like very much.
As other posters already implied in their posts, writing great believable characters isn't part of DS's skillset -- all things considered, though, the plotting he did to come up with his Opportunities list to tie the sex scenes together is well done. I also sense that there are certain directions he wanted to go to in terms of character development that he couldn't pursue because of what I think are time constraints of his dev schedule. For instance, that smoking incident with Alice where she says she smokes because it reminds her of her father -- that is a great hook to expand Alice's daddy issues. DS cut that off by making Alice say that it doesn't matter to her, but it obviously does because she persists in smoking Lucky Strike instead of one of those girly fruit cigarettes. I can go into some other "hook sentences" in DS's writing that goes unexplored, but the gist of what I want to say is that while DS is not a professional writer, imo he knows the basics -- it's good enough to make me think what he's done so far is good enough, far from perfect, but still very good considering the vast sea of shallow writing in the majority of porn games (most are atrociously bad, lol).
I looked into some games in the F95zone forums, there are some which are possibly better written than BB. I'm hesitant to try them out, though, because I don't want to get addicted too much to games like this, lol. There's this Blizzard game called Diablo 3, and I played it so much that I think I clocked a couple of hundred hours in that game. I remember feeling that I have to play one... more... hour... despite the fact that I don't want to play it anymore because that game is so freaking repetitive. That feeling of game addiction Diablo 3 elicited in me as a player, I started feeling it for BB -- get Lisa to show me her tits one... more... time... I really need... that ... Lisa progression... At that point, I knew it wasn't healthy anymore after doing Lisa's homework 20 times already, that's why I just had to look at the BB walkthrough at that point, lol. That's when I knew DS developed a great game. For the sake of my sanity, though, I'd go for a more "fap-and-go" sort of games in the future, lolol.
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I get what you're saying. I'm trying to write a story for a game project I have and, even if the story doesn't take itself too seriously as it's a satire/secondhand embarrassment comedy, it's really hard to think about a character's personality and then write it down in a fluid way.
I'm no writer myself, mind you this is the first time I try writing something seriously, but after I started this "adventure" I begun to respect a little more and, to some degree, understand Dark Silver. I still think he took some questionable turns in his story, but I'm not one to judge.
Even if I'm using the stereotypical japanese anime personalities it's still kinda hard to write them in a believable way and interactions with other characters that have diferent personalities is also a challenge. It gets even harder when it comes to incest dynamics, it's real fucking hard to write a incest scene in a believable way without it getting too cliché (not that I mind clichés and poking fun at them) or forced.
All in all, that doesn't stop me from poking fun at all the BB die hard fans out ther because, hey, that's the internet.
Hello guys,
Sorry if i'm not in the good place for asking but, i'm new here...
I have Ikarumod, Diamond Mod, Shopping Mod and Lisa PS..
Is it possible to run them together ? And how ?
Sorry if i'm not in the good place for asking but, i'm new here...
I have Ikarumod, Diamond Mod, Shopping Mod and Lisa PS..
Is it possible to run them together ? And how ?
You can "merge" the txt files, which involves a lot of copy & paste, or alternatively try the Chancer mod, which combines other mods together.
If you've got the disk space, I'd recommend copying the game into sub-folders, and naming them for each mod you use on them.
That way you're keeping an original version in case of issues that come from installing the mod(s), and avoiding mod conflicts.
After reading what I've just written, I wish there was an F95 version of the Nexus Mod Manager... If only I was a semi-decent programmer, but I hated learning to code in college :frown:
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I decided to try out a few other games while waiting on 0.12 for BB.
Came across a weird little game called "Wicked Choices"
Now it may seem unrelated to BB but something became obvios for me the first 5 minutes of play.
The MC basically starts with a sex scene. It's also an incest part here because he is the girls uncle.
Not to spoil.. But that scene was extremly emotional and erotic. It far beats any encouter between any of the characters in BB on every level. I screenshot every change of render (picture) during that scene and i counted 45 screens on 1 scene. It's because the hole scene allows emotions between blowjob, oral and actual sex. They kiss, foreplay, kiss, hug, foreplay again and after the sex they hug again and share words.
Now the game is actually weird as hell. So im not promoting it unless you wanna give it a go and see for yourself.
But it made me realise what BB have been missing all this time. Some emotions between characters. It's all just sex as blackmail, or SUB/DOM, BDSM and never any real emotions. The one emotional touch we ever share is during Lisas kissing training and that ends really quick with no way to repeat. Damn i wish we could have some hot french kissing between characters and that alone would raise the Erotic level of the game by 200%.
But i guess hugs and kisses wont work well when your dressed in leather, chained to the wall, beeing forced to Blow you brother while your big sister twist your nipples with sharp fingernails. Your mother dildo fucking your ass and you aunt fisting your pussy. (Oh boy the game loves Lisa)
Maby i should online order 10 packs of sleeping pills and ask Lisa to swallow them all..
Her BB fate seems a worse alternativ right now. R.I.P aint gonna happen tho.... I'm sure DS will make Eric return with a necrophilia twist and fuck her corps..
"Sorry i derailed in my rant. But i do think the game would benefit a lot from emotions beeing added to the characters"
Came across a weird little game called "Wicked Choices"
Now it may seem unrelated to BB but something became obvios for me the first 5 minutes of play.
The MC basically starts with a sex scene. It's also an incest part here because he is the girls uncle.
Not to spoil.. But that scene was extremly emotional and erotic. It far beats any encouter between any of the characters in BB on every level. I screenshot every change of render (picture) during that scene and i counted 45 screens on 1 scene. It's because the hole scene allows emotions between blowjob, oral and actual sex. They kiss, foreplay, kiss, hug, foreplay again and after the sex they hug again and share words.
Now the game is actually weird as hell. So im not promoting it unless you wanna give it a go and see for yourself.
But it made me realise what BB have been missing all this time. Some emotions between characters. It's all just sex as blackmail, or SUB/DOM, BDSM and never any real emotions. The one emotional touch we ever share is during Lisas kissing training and that ends really quick with no way to repeat. Damn i wish we could have some hot french kissing between characters and that alone would raise the Erotic level of the game by 200%.
But i guess hugs and kisses wont work well when your dressed in leather, chained to the wall, beeing forced to Blow you brother while your big sister twist your nipples with sharp fingernails. Your mother dildo fucking your ass and you aunt fisting your pussy. (Oh boy the game loves Lisa)
Maby i should online order 10 packs of sleeping pills and ask Lisa to swallow them all..
Her BB fate seems a worse alternativ right now. R.I.P aint gonna happen tho.... I'm sure DS will make Eric return with a necrophilia twist and fuck her corps..
"Sorry i derailed in my rant. But i do think the game would benefit a lot from emotions beeing added to the characters"
A new version comes out every 2 weeks....
And it is no more repetitive than BB is.
It has Story at least which this game is lacking and the relationships in the game BUILD as opposed to just change to fit the newest sex scene he has come up with.
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Seems more kissing is ahead of us
.Maybe DS finaly have time to play DmD,DoD,PL and MSN.
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Hehe after doctor/patient story we now go into another common ground in porn-teacher/student
What will be next? Police woman/criminal?
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