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Similiar case to DMD or DoD. It was first and has fine renders. It also had some fresh mechanic when it was released
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- May 24, 2017
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Yeah, but much time has passed and it's still very popular, despite many games have better mechanics... (I don't say that alone, many ppl around here seem to have the same opinion)
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Growth dynamic of games that were released year ago was so fast that they're unable to fall anymore as long as they will keep releasing anything. Number of patrons attracts other patrons and BB has really fine early game with fine renders. That's enough I guess. You have to play for hours to reach drastic downfall of quality. Back in a days BB tried to be a sandbox and its potential was amazing and unique. It was like the Holy Grail of Patreon games when it comes to their pure potential. Now it's mediocre but market will maintain its fame.
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More to do with endings. Icstor is pretty bad when it comes to doing the endings of his games. Yes they have endings, but they often feel extremely rushed e.g. plot threads left dangling or given only the most simplistic resolution. In the case of his last two games, the endings felt awfully premature as there was still lots of potential storylines and events that were possible.
Edit: Additionally his chosen game engine didn't endear him to many. His existing games are in RPG maker, and most of the time it was just "go here, do this" stuff. His new game will be in renpy and he'll only work on one game at a time instead of two so he may turn things around.
That's exactly why i love it.
Apart from the beautiful woman, i like to play a game that you have to put some effort in.
So playing a game for 12 hours before you even get to see a Sideboob is no issue for me. (But 99% of the people can not wait even wait 12 seconds without seeing some nude).
Does this game have it's issues... Off course.
Is it the best on this site.... Not really.
But a lot of people(including me), can still see the potential in this game to be the best game..Maybe not in DS hands, but with modding yeah..
Games like Big Brother, Dating my Daughter, New life and more just get a lot of shit from kids who are only interested in nudes and not the game itself... So if they have to play a game for an hour without seeing something, they will get frustrated and lose their minds.
But like i said... This game is far from perfect, but it still has a lot of potential... That's why many people are still hanging on.
Not in any way.
But why would people support a Dev who does not finish their games(Milf villa, incest story 2) because they have a new idea.....
Most people don't like that kind of stuff... And makes no sense i my head..
Seems to me that you get a better REP and more goodwill&Income when you finish your product then rush/cancel it and go on to the next one
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You understand that BB makes 30k-40K $ per month.I can bet DS wont make same amount if he end the game in next 2-3 updates and works only on his new project.1. This is only what you want and has little to do with facts or real issues of developing. If people stop care there will be no more BB because this will pull the plug on Pateron. Ann is still the main carrot. Only a fool would give away the end in the middle of a film, so if DS wants to go on he needs to hold that carrot till the bitter end.
2. Yes, Lisas virginity is the second carrot. So this has to be given up first. Ann later. It doesn't change the fact that once the carrots are gone so will most of the patreons be. Then DS will swap focus to the next project. On that i don't blame him. Why beat a dead horse... so to speak.
So the game is over when DS says it is. Whatever dreams or wishes you may have of future content. As i said, there will always be a few hardcorers left. Story wice.. Well that ship sailed long ago. As proven by you words that the only carrot left is family group sex. If you ever get your wish it's gonna be BDSM heaven. Something like this maby ....
Max is on the floor with Lisa riding him. Kate forcing Lisa to deep throat a strapon. Alice is using a dildo in Lisas ass and mom is getting ready to deliver a goldenshower on lisas back and then swap places with her. Kates mom is filming all of it ofc.. She will use this film to blackmail the whole family and we are all now slaves in her club. On the up side we get to meet Eric again as he is drugged up in the same place as we are
Obvilosly i was just joking around there but in DS hands i fear the worst. I kinda want the game to end once we had the carrots. Dragging it out with endless pointless uppdates and more dead ends like he does now has no future anyways. It's time to deliver.
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Just to point out those two games DO have endings, it's just they're clearly rushed.Not in any way.
But why would people support a Dev who does not finish their games(Milf villa, incest story 2) because they have a new idea.....
Most people don't like that kind of stuff... And makes no sense i my head..
Seems to me that you get a better REP and more goodwill&Income when you finish your product then rush/cancel it and go on to the next one
It's like watching the lord of the rings trilogy but instead of the full content they just put the ending after 1 hour and skipped the other 8 hours
...I'm not really sure i would call it an ending..... More like an Middlefinger
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I never said they were good endings lol Just that they do have them.Well Mass Effect 3 also have ending,even 3 but we all saw what happen
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Yes!
Once carrots are gone the seeds that fall off matters no more. Game companies the size of Blizzard has left and abbandoned way bigger projects then a silly little incest adult porngame. And DS is a 1 man show that currently faces this problem ..
Imagine you start to build a house. At 70-75% ready you see that this didn't turn out at all as you were hoping. (BB)
You start to build on a second house and this time you carefully plan it diffrent. (Glamour) Ofc you will finish the first house as it would only sit there and waist space otherwice, but no question where your true focus will be at this point.
He didn't even care to make a merge (as he promissed) in the last uppdate but instead royally screwed everyone who plays the game on the old olivia path. Nore did he once reply to all thoes who asked what he planned for that story in the future. Hes finished and his focus is elsewhere. He fears the loss of patreons and keeps a smile going to the public. As would I if my income would be based on it.
So do i concider the game finished? No... and it never will be.
It will be in the pile of R.I.P abbandoned halfdone games scrapyard with thousands of other titles before BB.
I'm sorry for all fans who might take offense at my words but i been around long enough to see this happens again and again. Even Mmorpgs that has thousands of players and a big gamecompany behide it can get scrapped for no reason at all. (Happened to me twice as i was playing them)
My hopes for BB is that he gives it a decent finale. 2-3 uppdates then finish..
- May 24, 2017
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But you do realize that making 30-40k$ per month the quality of the overall production should be WAY MORE higher than other projects which earn about 20k per year...
Many fantastic VN like "The Letter" are way better (technical opinion, not script or sexual content opinion) with way less budget in their hands...
I'm asking this because I'm still new at this having started last May and despite the unbelievable (for me) success of my project I still think I have a lot to learn from other devs and the public of course.
I'm trying to understand what ppl's expectations are. For example I wouldn't have thought ppl would think of developing two projects together as a bad sign...
Many fantastic VN like "The Letter" are way better (technical opinion, not script or sexual content opinion) with way less budget in their hands...
I'm asking this because I'm still new at this having started last May and despite the unbelievable (for me) success of my project I still think I have a lot to learn from other devs and the public of course.
I'm trying to understand what ppl's expectations are. For example I wouldn't have thought ppl would think of developing two projects together as a bad sign...
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Its because everyone see something else in the game, no 2 players have the same major outlook on the game.
Yes the minor outlook everyone has almost the same idea but each player sees something else that other players do see.
Take this thread for what I mean:
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Up till v9 this was my outlook on the game:
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I feel the need to chime in here, while Im seeing both sides of this argument, a LARGE factor is being ignored. In regards to bestiality stories, let me tell you one about a man and a fish, or the one about the girl and the frog, or the one about the nerd girl that falls for a bison?!?, true that last one is probably a case of Stockholm syndrome but still... In case anyone is wondering, Im talking about Disney movies, Little Mermaid, The Princess and the Frog, and Beauty and the Beast. All of witch are romance movies. All of which technically would fall under bestiality. Now granted human transformation, etc, but the parties involved dont know that. Basically Im say you both have a point, animals in reality CANT be romanced, they dont have the brain function, HOWEVER, in fictionalized works like the aforementioned story about the lady and the t-rex, their is a good chance that the t-rex has been anthropomorphized to something vaguely human on some level, making it... a romance novel. There are A LOT of werewolf/dragon/jaguar transformation ROMANCE novels out there (most famous as of late being Twilight), and they work because human changes into beast, but its just as easy for a writer to go the other way and transform an animal to a human. Just like there have been many human to animal transformation movies, ther have also been animal to human, where the dog protects their owner, saving their life, wins back their family by gaining knowledge as an animal, (Shaggy DA anyone?), or some variation, and those stories could just as easily be made where the animal transforms, falls in love and goes back to animal, they just dont tell that story because it skeeves people out. Although they did make a movie where a woman essentially molests a child, and not only did no one have a problem, people loved Tom Hanks for it...Big. So a dog romance movie isnt out of the question, especially in todays world. Just need to point out neither of you is gonna convince the other because you both have points that are technically correct. The key word in the argument is anthropomorphic, if you do it, romance, if not, bestiality.
(Also sorry if im bringing up a dead topic but it was discussed 4 days ago and im catching up... feel free to ignore. lol)
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Its what EA and other AAA devs have come to call, "Games As Service" translation.... Neverending Story: the Game, where unlike the movie the game ACTUALLY never ends.
I stand by my opninion
..If DS really was done with the game he would not go through the effort of putting Olivia in the game no matter what and a couple more paths.
I understand it from your perspective, i really do... But i don't see that happening with DS right now.
I don't see signs of rushing routes of something like that, more the other way around.
Is he going to divide his attention between BB and Glamour.... For sure.
But is he going to abandon this game.... No.... He would be insane to do that.
I stand by my opinion that this game will be getting content at least through 2018, maybe less after a couple months but still updates.
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Of course you 100% right about the quality but we all see how EA release almost same game each year and still get incredible amount of money each year.Not to mention how many company do it like them now.
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I understand perfectly. Blizzard are still running World of Warcraft even tho it makes a fraction of the cash it use to.
But DS is alone. If he wants to focus on his next project he has no other option but to finish BB or release halfdone crap uppdates forever to come. Blizzard can make 10 other titles and make up for every lost dime in a heart beat.