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I understand perfectly. Blizzard are still running World of Warcraft even tho it makes a fraction of the cash it use to.
But DS is alone. If he wants to focus on his next project he has no other option but to finish BB or release halfdone crap uppdates forever to come. Blizzard can make 10 other titles and make up for every lost dime in a heart beat.
Actualy he have like 4-5 other people and most of their time is on the new game.
 

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I understand perfectly. Blizzard are still running World of Warcraft even tho it makes a fraction of the cash it use to.
But DS is alone. If he wants to focus on his next project he has no other option but to finish BB or release halfdone crap uppdates forever to come. Blizzard can make 10 other titles and make up for every lost dime in a heart beat.
DS is not alone. He has some team. There was a post with his plans for this year I think and he's shifting his attention toward Glamour in a serious manner like in a half of the year. I might be wrong but I think end of the year updates won't be for BB. I just pray his new game will stay his for entire development time and it will have enough sandboxish-non-strictly erotic vibe in it (like early BB had)
 
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DS is not alone. He has some team. There was a post with his plans for this year I think and he's shifting his attention toward Glamour in a serious manner like in a half of the year. I might be wrong but I think end of the year updates won't be for BB. I just pray his new game will stay his for entire development time and it will have enough sandboxish-non-strictly erotic vibe in it (like early BB had)
I think he said that after the first half year in 2018 his attention is going to shift more to Glamour, BUT that they are still going to work on BB in the months after that, so smaller updates at that time..

I think that the MAIN paths will be pretty much finished in the summer, when he shifts his focus on Glamour(publicly) and in the months after that he will add small things so that the smaller paths will be finished to with some minor content for the lead cast.... That would make the most sense in my mind.

Of course i could be wrong and he could say in 3 months...Screw it.... It's over..
At that point if it's not done then i guess it's time to pick up my modding tools and continu ;)

Either way...
This game is going the get finished for me :p
 

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For example I wouldn't have thought ppl would think of developing two projects together as a bad sign...
Depends how its done, if they both receive equal attention from the dev, and the quality remains high then no problem. The thing is thou that seldom happens. The dev splits their attention, quality drops off, either on one game markedly, or on both games generally. When it comes to game development, most ppl would prefer a dev focuses on one game and does it right, rather than half assing two games. There are exceptions to this ofc, but usually they're just that, exceptions.
 
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If DS really was done with the game he would not go through the effort of putting Olivia in the game no matter what and a couple more paths.
I understand it from your perspective, i really do... But i don't see that happening with DS right now.
I don't see signs of rushing routes of something like that, more the other way around.
Putting Olivia in was a major flopp. (He did promiss a merge) He actually just created a new character and story then used the old name and model from Olivia. No effort went into that. It's probably the most stupid misstake iv'e seen a developer do in a long time. He pissed off everyone who was (is) on the old Olivia path and i'm guessing paterons as well. Yet a single comment has be uttered from DS about this.
DS -> ( oh did i paint myself in a corner..? i think ill just run across and hope that no one notice the tracks ) ..
 

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I mean I'm kind of repeating myself here, but again, I'm fairly sure that Icstor is actually into incest as well as getting it. To forestall any further confusion, the point I'm making is that there is no requirement for a 'real' or 'proper' incest game beyond 'does it involve sexual activity between family members'. Everything else is preference, and I'm just establishing that preferences other than yours exist.
I believe you are incorrect and he did actually state that he was not intrested in incest. Don't remember the exact wording. It was around the time he added Eric. His bondage fetishism was just starting to be seen in game
Someone might care enough to go back
for the quote, i finally dropped my pledge in December, so don't have access to all the posts on patreon.
 
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Putting Olivia in was a major flopp. (He did promiss a merge) He actually just created a new character and story then used the old name and model from Olivia. No effort went into that. It's probably the most stupid misstake iv'e seen a developer do in a long time. He pissed off everyone who was (is) on the old Olivia path and i'm guessing paterons as well. Yet a single comment has be uttered from DS about this.
DS -> ( oh did i paint myself in a corner.. i think ill just run across and hope that no one notice the tracks ) ..
As a person who stuck by the Lisa GF path (always), i liked it..
BUT i can understand that if you took that path and liked Olivia that you feel screwed...
 

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I believe you are incorrect and he did actually state that he was not intrested in incest. Don't remember the exact wording. It was around the time he added Eric. His bondage fetishism was just starting to be seen in game
Someone might care enough to go back
for the quote, i finally dropped my pledge in December, so don't have access to all the posts on patreon.
I was talking there about Icstor, a different dev than Dark Silver, to establish that incest is its own genre of porn and not just a subset of the 'romance' genre. You are right that DS has said incest doesn't do much for him.
 

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I think he said that after the first half year in 2018 his attention is going to shift more to Glamour, BUT that they are still going to work on BB in the months after that, so smaller updates at that time..

I think that the MAIN paths will be pretty much finished in the summer, when he shifts his focus on Glamour(publicly) and in the months after that he will add small things so that the smaller paths will be finished to with some minor content for the lead cast.... That would make the most sense in my mind.

Of course i could be wrong and he could say in 3 months...Screw it.... It's over..
At that point if it's not done then i guess it's time to pick up my modding tools and continu ;)

Either way...
This game is going the get finished for me :p
Might be. Can't find this post so maybe I just imagined he said so. Most logical option in my opinion would be normal updates untill huge, polished version of Glamour is finished. Then Glamour and some minor updates for BB every 2-3 month. For me this game is already finished since 0.5 so I have high hopes in Glamour. Not even one developer achieved to create sandboxish adult game due to lack of knowledge and resources and DS have both now. We will see
 

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Doesn't change the fact that she has entirely voluntary sex with Max, even if you don't untie her, because it's blatantly obvious that she was fully consensual and intended on that outcome, no matter how she got it. Kind of like with her own Sister...
The point I'm making and you guys seem intent on ignoring is there isn't a single fuck scene in this game that doesn't involve some BDSM trope or mechanism!
Wanna fuck Kira it starts with tying her to a bed.
Wanna fuck Alice, it happens as part of Blackmail and spanking. The BLOG fuck is the only one where BDSM isn't a factor.
Olivia is the only woman in this game that you can fuck without spanking or tying her up. And he abandoned that and left it a dead end. It wouldn't surprise me to have her Mother tie her up to watch her fuck Max in the next few updates.

I have a question as a developer. How is this game so popular? I mean I enjoy it very much, even though there's too much grinding for my taste. Still I think there are many games much better than this one (not talking about mine, that's not for me to say) but they earn 1/10 on patreon, both on pledges and on followers.

I mean, there's no indication of any end to the game, the dev could apply update after update endlessly, it doesn't seem (to me) that it will ever be completed. Even here on the forum I read much criticism and a 3 star rating.

So, in order to understand people's tastes about this kind of games, the question is still the same: how come is this so popular?
Most of what makes it popular (IMO) is the combination of the rendering which uses more HUMAN and realistic models as opposed to the over sexualized (Cartoonish, Big Ass, Big Boobs) you see in most other games. And the fact that he uses Unity Engine which is much better than the others. He has rarely had a game killing bug show up on release day. So it just works. That is a big factor in keeping customers. Hit them with too many game killing bugs and they will get tired of having to start over. Eventually the game is thought of as unstable (see a game like My New Life for example) that even if it had great story and gameplay people abandon it simply because they are tired of the crashing.

This game showed promise early but it has since lost its way. The story is vague, it is more of a BDSM genre story than an incest genre, and even after a year of development and releases you still have yet to fuck the main characters that have been introduced from the beginning.

He has created new characters only to drop them or dead end their progress in the very next release and his story is so vague all along that before where people could imagine their own ideas of what the game was about, and his inconsistencies with previous plot that followed has ruined that for most.

I wouldn't be surprised if many of the patreons he still has, forgot they are paying him once a month.
 
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Might be. Can't find this post so maybe I just imagined he said so. Most logical option in my opinion would be normal updates untill huge, polished version of Glamour is finished. Then Glamour and some minor updates for BB every 2-3 month. For me this game is already finished since 0.5 so I have high hopes in Glamour. Not even one developer achieved to create sandboxish adult game due to lack of knowledge and resources and DS have both now. We will see
We know that high hopes and DS can't go hand to hand sadly.I expect he go full BDSM mode in Glamour 2.0,still can be fun if don't go into extremes.BTW there is a chance that Sin will make a sandbox game.And we already have some that can pass that criteria-Glassix.
 

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No no no, you can't talk about EA and Blizzard here. You cannot compare products from large companies and indie developers who often develop the game alone while having a work and a family, nor the multimillionare budget of large companies.

You have to compare indie games with indie games, so the budget of BB must be compared to the budget of another indie project, even regardless of kind of game and content, but with same-size developing teams and/or publishers.

If you compare our products with AAA ones we're simply out of the game.
 
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As a person who stuck by the Lisa GF path (always), i liked it..
BUT i can understand that if you took that path and liked Olivia that you feel screwed...
This is not about me, just so we are clear. I have every rotue done and complete.
But what if the same was true for the Lisa path and this pappend to you? Imagine no v11-12 content beeing playable because you are on a path the game does not support anymore and its become a dead end. No warning from the Developer or ingame text mentions this. Option now is quit or start over because that choice was made in week 2.
I'm sorry but thats just so bad it's even hard to find words to descibe. And what does DS say about it?
He berries his head in the sand like an ostrich and pretends like nothing.
 

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This is not about me, just so we are clear. I have every rotue done and complete.
But what if the same was true for the Lisa path and this pappend to you? Imagine no v11-12 content beeing playable because you are on a path the game does not support anymore and its become a dead end. No warning from the Developer or ingame text mentions this. Option now is quit or start over because that choice was made in week 2.
I'm sorry but thats just so bad it's even hard to find words to descibe. And what does DS say about it?
He berries his head in the sand like an ostrich and pretends like nothing.
DS may work on the real Olivia path down the road and all we can do is hope.
If he does he will have to combine it with the Mentor quest for Lisa so we can go on in the other Lisa only quest lines.
 

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We know that high hopes and DS can't go hand to hand sadly.I expect he go full BDSM mode in Glamour 2.0,still can be fun if don't go into extremes.BTW there is a chance that Sin will make a sandbox game.And we already have some that can pass that criteria-Glassix.
Oh first versions of BB weren't so bad and filled with BDSM. I think it's his way to introduce incest somehow so in my opinion it won't dominate. Moreover if it's sandbox it has to have a lot of different paths. Honestly I think it would be wise for him to release 0.1 of it after he'll make it almost as big as BB when it comes to renders due to those routes. Forgot about Glassix. You're right but it has some really huge problem. It feels really mechanical and for me it's more of a test-project for future developers. Dunno about Sin as DoD is just a VN so his experience isn't so great. Moreover he's kinda rapey and theme focused while sandbox can't follow particular theme to feel open. But I didn't hear about it before and it's great he will try. Will check it for sure
 
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Oh first versions of BB weren't so bad and filled with BDSM. I think it's his way to introduce incest somehow so in my opinion it won't dominate. Moreover if it's sandbox it has to have a lot of different paths. Honestly I think it would be wise for him to release 0.1 of it after he'll make it almost as big as BB when it comes to renders due to those routes. Forgot about Glassix. You're right but it has some really huge problem. It feels really mechanical and for me it's more of a test-project for future developers. Dunno about Sin as DoD is just a VN so his experience isn't so great. Moreover he's kinda rapey and theme focused while sandbox can't follow particular theme to feel open. But I didn't hear about it before and it's great he will try. Will check it for sure
I think with support he have Gaweb did awesome job in Glassix.Shame that he and Ptolemy par example don't get more money.And we better don't have way too high hopes for Glamour.
 

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I think with support he have Gaweb did awesome job in Glassix.Shame that he and Ptolemy par example don't get more money.And we better don't have way too high hopes for Glamour.
Sure, Glassix is pretty good. It's a design's flow that characters are bounded by mechanic but all in all it's really really good game with original theme and gameplay. But for me it's more like an attempt rather than real sandbox. But it's still praiseworthy. As for Glamour some hype and hopes are fine. If it'll deliver it's great for us. If it will fail to deliver its thread will be so damn amusing:p
 

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Using any kind of power to get sex is rape including blackmailing and I don't do rape.
This entire game is about rape, right from the start. Blackmailing Alice to show her tits, Kira, Mom, even Lisa. If you don't like the game, please find another game you do like, instead of spamming this thread over.
 

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Just finished with all the new content in 0.12. Honestly I was expecting of a little more content for the grind but beggars can't be choosers . Now, the long wait for 0.13 begins...
 
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