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Not sure there was much shape to begin with if he couldn't write a npc into the story (still shitty) that wasn't overpowered in the first place.

The WHOLE reason Eric was utterly detested was the fact that within the first month of being there(gametime) he was essentially lord of the manor and has full say over your house.

He was and is not fun to play against and will not be until :

1.) DS rewrites the game. (Not likely)

2.) Someone else remakes the game so that it makes sense. (also not likely)
 

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Not sure there was much shape to begin with if he couldn't write a npc into the story (still shitty) that wasn't overpowered in the first place.

The WHOLE reason Eric was utterly detested was the fact that within the first month of being there(gametime) he was essentially lord of the manor and has full say over your house.

He was and is not fun to play against and will not be until :

1.) DS rewrites the game. (Not likely)

2.) Some else remakes the game so that it makes sense. (also not likely)
I mean, there's no point rehashing it all; I understand a lot of people didn't like the guy. I'm just saying that it was a bit more complicated than "everyone hated Eric".
 

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Thanks @elmandor

These previews are kinda weak in my opinion. I mean there are basically the same from the other previews or scenes that are already on the game. I fear that this update will be smaller than average because the previews aren't really showing much.

However something I did like from the preview Touch and another one from some days ago is DS making more scenes with Ann in just a apron, I really liked those scenes.

Hopefully I'm wrong and we get a true thematic update and a proper build up for Ann scenes sex. For me this update should add at least 2 scenes and they should be repeatable.

Edit: That bathroom scene is also not good enough to be a 20$ patreon tier, can't believe I'm saying this again
Don't worry my friend. You are not the only one who think that way.
 

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There is the and a rework of it its Ikarumod but with added amount instead of maxing out the stats to 1000 it had 100, 500 and 1000 points instead.

Now we also have the Ikuramod X's mod that has the homework bug fix included in it and its the one I use
 
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Not sure there was much shape to begin with if he couldn't write a npc into the story (still shitty) that wasn't overpowered in the first place.

The WHOLE reason Eric was utterly detested was the fact that within the first month of being there(gametime) he was essentially lord of the manor and has full say over your house.

He was and is not fun to play against and will not be until :

1.) DS rewrites the game. (Not likely)

2.) Someone else remakes the game so that it makes sense. (also not likely)
Even when he was first introduce he was easy to keep at bay and once the camera was introduce you had a lot more leeway with him.
He was just like all the other NPC's a work in progress.
 

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We got rid of Eric what, 5 months ago? Since then the "game" hasn't been as good. I think if you drew a graph for the popularity of this game, it would be decreasing since we got rid of Eric. Why? Because it's been too one dimensional. There's been no contest. When you actually get to a sex scene it just feels too easy.
The game was never good to begin with. It was all promise of goodness at the beginning, when we thought we knew what was coming. But then instead of an incest game, we got Eric. Most people agree that he sucked and totally derailed what seemed to be shaping up to a fun incest game. There was nothing about Eric that was incest, and nothing about him that was fun for most of the players. It was hardly Eric's removal that caused the game to go downhill. That really caught momentum with Eric. But honestly, the game was fatally flawed from the beginning because DS doesn't have it in him to make an incest game. He might be able to make an NTR game, with lesbians and bondage and blackmail, and lots and lots of renders of cocks. But let's not cling to the notion that Eric was in any way good for what always was and still is billed as an incest game, or that he is not hated by the vast majority of people who have played this game. He has his fans, who always want to explain how getting rid of Eric somehow ruined the game, and how the solution to every problem in the game is to bring him back.
 

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We got rid of Eric what, 5 months ago? Since then the "game" hasn't been as good. I think if you drew a graph for the popularity of this game, it would be decreasing since we got rid of Eric. Why? Because it's been too one dimensional. There's been no contest. When you actually get to a sex scene it just feels too easy.
I saw this argument a lot in BB's early days. And I still very much disagree. If lack of a contest is what it takes for a game's writing to be considered "one-dimensional" that speaks more about the writer's incapability to write an engaging story more than anything else.

The game didn't suffer because Eric was taken out. The game suffered because of Eric's involvement. Let me explain. The game hasn't been good because DS pinned all his writing and effort on making an antagonist in Eric and a poor one at that. So now, since he's gone, DS doesn't know where to go from there because all that effort was scrapped due to the negativity. He backed himself into that corner.

He created Eric to give motivation for the incest story to kick off. This in itself, wasn't the mistake. The mistake was having Eric be the center of everything. There was no story without Eric. That was the problem. At the end of the day it's "Big Brother: Incest Story of Your Life" not "Big Brother: Eric's Invasion".

A story can be engaging without a competitor and there's nothing wrong with having a competitor either. Problem is, DS focused solely on the competition. The actual incest story, while certainly not nonexistent, took a back seat to Eric's shenanigans. And the female characters suffered as a result. Ann became a stupid mother. Alice became a sellout, flirting with Stupid Ann's man. And Lisa was hella dense.

Let me tell you how foolish Eric is too. How many times in the past could we catch him masturbating to Alice at night? How many times could we catch him fucking Kira at night? Suppose it was Ann who caught him even one of those times. Even Stupid Ann wouldn't be able to brush that off the way she did the photographic evidence (which couldn't have been more moronic).

The combination of Eric's continuous shenanigans and convenient scenarios due to the girls' complete lack of common sense bogged the game down. He mishandled Eric's writing and mishandled the writing post-Eric. Now the conflict that he does have (earning money for the house) is being mishandled as well. Why? Because DS is not putting effort into making it a real threatening situation for the family. No eviction warnings. No game overs. No nothing. Everything is easy because he doesn't try to make the current conflicts he's given us any harder. Not because of Eric's disappearance.
 

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with the mod how can i make sure the mod is go to work with new Version of the game and this Version of the game
 

AkitoH

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The point, I think, is more about conflict than 'a contest' as such - a competitor or rival is just one possible source of conflict. There really isn't any conflict in the game anymore. So for me, the game started going downhill when Eric was removed, not because Eric was some necessary element of a potential good BB game, but because the conflict he created was never replaced.
I mentioned this as the last thing in my comment. DS did give us another conflict. The problem is, he didn't give the conflict enough stake to it. In fact, any struggle is nonexistent. I brought this to his attention when he first came here, but he still hasn't done anything about it. Not like he owes me anything anyway, I'm not a patron and will likely never be one.

But the new conflict that was presented after Eric was removed was the need to become financially stable since Ann was left without a job. DS predictably mishandled this scenario just like the one with Eric. This could have been used as a driving force to not only bring the family together, but to expand the world and opportunities naturally. Max, Lisa and Alice would need to look for a real job. Whether it be the mall, the coffee shop, etc. If you don't find a job within a set date, the family would be more liable to be evicted sooner than later. This is where all these new characters would be useful and would actually fit into the story naturally rather than be shelved immediately upon creation due to contradicting polls and decisions.

I've said this religiously: DS doesn't think these things through.
 

nicox11

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Hi guys, how to unlock all olivia events ? Nothing happened in my game ?
I chose Lise GF path previously but never see olivia in game (and the new events entroduced)
 

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I think one of the problems with Eric is this.DS promise that if we lower Eric's influence over all girls to 0 mom,aunt and sisters will kick him out.Well that never happen,not in 0.3 he first promise,not in 0.4 or 0.5.It seems to many of us he just lie about that option be present in the game.DS was thinking that for most of his patrons will be enought that there will be sex in the game in early updates and wont matter that this will be for Eric and not for Max.For me it was OK for Anna to have sex with Eric, but many don't approve that.I'm way more perverted than most here.Par example I will like all 3 chapters of DmD.Ch.1-sex with other girls than D;ch.2-sex with D and ch.3-chapter of fetishes.I bet many will stop after the sex with D,but not me.If we get something like futa/obviously strap-on/,bestiality/some dog,I doubt about horse/,interracial/Martin/and impregnation.
Another problem is how fast Eric makes a progress with Lisa/0.3/,Alice/0.3/ and Kira/0.4/.Actualy all the things Max do with his sisters and aunt help Eric to get intimate with the girls.Not to mention DS give him some mind wipe and mind control powers over the girls.Maybe that was the reason we don't get to the girls kick Eric out of the house.Because he uses the spell from DoD or the drug from The Gift Reloaded/Lab Rats/Corruption or the glasses from the Glassix.
 
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