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Modhunter

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Gotta milk those patreon dollars. Re works should happen after completion or better yet, in new chapters, if you have an audience WTF upgrade as you go, this is bullshit.
 
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any new content or still reMASTERING unfinished game?
You can just read the changelog on the OP to get your answer.
Gotta milk those patreon dollars. Re works should happen after completion or better yet, in new chapters, if you have an audience WTF upgrade as you go, this is bullshit.
They only had a little over 40 patrons ever, so "if you have an audience" wouldn't seem to apply very much. They clearly didn't have a very big audience from elsewhere willing to support them. Maybe they did the revamp to try to find something that would grow their audience more. I do think remastering earlier rather than later is better, so there's a lower amount or redoing. I don't agree that a remaster was needed, but there are some changes I've liked. Others don't have to agree, ofc.
 
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Maximilian87

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I tried. i swear.
but man, what in the name of the devil is this "remake"? bro the game was going fine, the story was not the best but was interesting, the LI's were good looking and the game was doing just fine, the for some unknown reason the dev decides to remake the game, and take absolutely forever to finish anything. like bro, wtf? do you really dislike your fans or whatever? its like we are stuck in a time loop, having to play everything again and again. i will not be returning to this game until they finish all this bullshit and get on with a new episode, then just maybe this thing will be good again.
 

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I tried. i swear.
but man, what in the name of the devil is this "remake"? bro the game was going fine, the story was not the best but was interesting, the LI's were good looking and the game was doing just fine, the for some unknown reason the dev decides to remake the game, and take absolutely forever to finish anything. like bro, wtf? do you really dislike your fans or whatever? its like we are stuck in a time loop, having to play everything again and again. i will not be returning to this game until they finish all this bullshit and get on with a new episode, then just maybe this thing will be good again.
The dev just better not make the vampires twinkle. If he does, I swear.... :oops:
 

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im wondering did the dev change or did the dev just started to remake the game
It's the same dev. It's just being remade. Some of the changes are things like better screens for LIs and supernatural abilities; at least one new LI who wasn't there before; improved renders; and so on. Many of the changes are minor, but some of them (like some of the variable tracking) are more major and would break previous saves.
 
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JaszMan

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Is the MC much older than he realizes?. Rewired memories to make him forget the past type of thing. One of his Dream memories seem like it does not take place in the present day. Great Story, another one I just do not want to end. Gets me nostalgic for Vampire the Masquerade, Both Redemption and Bloodlines games.
 

JaszMan

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why are there relationship and power stats visible in Part 1 with the two icons in the top right but in Part 2 the stats are not visible?
 

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why are there relationship and power stats visible in Part 1 with the two icons in the top right but in Part 2 the stats are not visible?
What do you mean by "Part 2"? If you're talking about Episode 6, Part 2, that's from before the remaster so it might have been missed or something. As of the previous update for the remaster (i.e., Episode 2, Part 2 remastered), the stats appear the full time. I haven't played this latest (Episode 3, Part 1 remastered), so I can't comment on that.
 
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Altair1243

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You can just read the changelog on the OP to get your answer.

They only had a little over 40 patrons ever, so "if you have an audience" wouldn't seem to apply very much. They clearly didn't have a very big audience from elsewhere willing to support them. Maybe they did the revamp to try to find something that would grow their audience more. I do think remastering earlier rather than later is better, so there's a lower amount or redoing. I don't agree that a remaster was needed, but there are some changes I've liked. Others don't have to agree, ofc.
Fair, but when you remaster early and very clearly still haven't learned much, you're just going to make new mistakes that will (again) make you want to re-remaster it later. It's not obvious to puzzle out, so you're generally better off waiting until you're confident you can pull off something solid

Also, I would never suggest drastically altering your core gameplay like it seems the dev did here. If anything, it probably gained them very little/nothing and apparently cost them a lot of the support they had
 

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Fair, but when you remaster early and very clearly still haven't learned much, you're just going to make new mistakes that will (again) make you want to re-remaster it later. It's not obvious to puzzle out, so you're generally better off waiting until you're confident you can pull off something solid

Also, I would never suggest drastically altering your core gameplay like it seems the dev did here. If anything, it probably gained them very little/nothing and apparently cost them a lot of the support they had
The current supporter number is misleading if you only look at that. At the end of July (when the remastering was well underway), they had 41 patrons. So I don't think it's really affected them all that much. True, the last couple of months have seen a bit of a drop, but from February to July it was still high 30s to low 40s, so there wasn't a huge hit they took in numbers. Additionally, at such a low total number (around 40), while the percentage is high, in reality only about 10 patrons isn't all that many to lose. Obviously it will have affected potential momentum, but it's not all that huge of a hit in practice.

There are arguments to be made both ways. I'm neither justifying nor condemning their decision. They have their reasons, and it doesn't seem to have hurt them much. Some devs do a rework and then a rework again (*cough* Aorrta), but a single rework doesn't generally equate to the dev later wanting to redo it again.

What I can say is that with the remastering so far, I've liked some of the additions, both in story and UI. (For instance, I feel like the story flows a bit more smoothly, and some additional twists have been added, and it's only halfway through the rework.) I would hope that the dev took time before starting the rework to plan things out more thoroughly so there will be little reason to want to adjust anything in the future. I guess we'll see, but I'm personally happy with the changes I've seen so far.

Despite what I said about preferring a rework earlier rather than later, BDS has still another 3½ episodes to redo, so they didn't jump on the rework all that early, TBH. I don't know how many episodes are planned per season (since this is Season 1), but if we suppose there will be 10 each season they were already over halfway through before making all of the adjustments.
 
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Is the MC much older than he realizes?. Rewired memories to make him forget the past type of thing. One of his Dream memories seem like it does not take place in the present day. Great Story, another one I just do not want to end. Gets me nostalgic for Vampire the Masquerade, Both Redemption and Bloodlines games.
no he isn't, his childhood memories were just blocked so he is around 20 years old.
 
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