RPGM Completed Black Souls II [v1.13 Official translation] [Eeny, meeny, miny, moe?]

[ametoq]

Mabel could solve all of Grimm’s problems if she wanted, but if she uses her power, the Idiot will awaken. If she’s that powerful, how does she end up trapped before the final battle of the game? Could she be a acting? Maybe she just wanted to motivate Grimm?
Can’t she just hide in her garden at least?

 

[Noah Neim]

Mabel could solve all of Grimm’s problems if she wanted, but if she uses her power, the Idiot will awaken. If she’s that powerful, how does she end up trapped before the final battle of the game? Could she be a acting? Maybe she just wanted to motivate Grimm?
Can’t she just hide in her garden at least?

The idiot isnt supposed to awaken, so that'd be likely why.
Even if she could, remember the reasson why she was there was curiosssity, black souls blah blah you know the whole deal, so she still wouldnt do it for that reason too.
As for being trapped... im not quite sure anyone except grimm is trapped, tco wouldnt keep them there, as long as they werent vital to the garden like the alice sisters, and in the case of mable, nyanlathotep couldnt tell yog to do anything even if it tried.

 

[ametoq]

The idiot isnt supposed to awaken, so that'd be likely why.
Even if she could, remember the reasson why she was there was curiosssity, black souls blah blah you know the whole deal, so she still wouldnt do it for that reason too.
As for being trapped... im not quite sure anyone except grimm is trapped, tco wouldnt keep them there, as long as they werent vital to the garden like the alice sisters, and in the case of mable, nyanlathotep couldnt tell yog to do anything even if it tried.

That makes sense then maybe baphomet may come back. I think she lost a bit too quickly.

 

[Phenir]

I doubt Baphomet will come back. Lindamea is probably pulling a shingen in dead red hood.

 

[sammo905]

didn't she say she was tired of the role
anyway if she does come back it probs won't be as baphoment but the black goat
and probs not in drh either

 

[Omnom88]

Well her goat form is the most famous one. You could also use her Astarte form or any charcters based on motherhood.
The black goat(male) is also sometimes based on her brother Ny-Rakath in tune with Satyrs in general. So maybe that brother could show up in DRH?
There was also the character screenshot of someone from the Black Trial NPCs wearing a goatskull on their face. Maybe those are the remains of Baphomet.

 

[webSurfer365]

Here
Google Drive
I can't post directly because the image is too large for the server to process.

Thank you for sharing it with me, a shame that it's not in english(I assume the language in the picture is Thai), I'll have to manually translate it using google translate.

 

[wicked-green-eyes]

It took me 36 hrs 53 min to finish the game. (HLTB / Length / hours / how long).

The 'base game' (everything except DLC3) took me 28 hrs 20 min, then DLC3 took me about 8.5 more hours. My time for DLC3 might be nonaverage since I spent some hours banging my head against a tough boss, then eventually save edited for higher stats to let me zoom past the bosses.

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[Mr. Cofman]

Spoiler: Is he imitating Lorde now? What an idiot!

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[Evil Earthworm Jim]

Making clear progress? About 18 hours on base game and about 9 on DLC 3. I spent about 20 hours plus in the chaos dungeon though. I probably ended up using 1000+ of those old one souls (whatever they are called) that you earn in Mabel's dungeon. Collectively however it's probably triple digits. When I start a new play through, I make separate saves at each point of mager divergence so I don't have to make lots of new games, depending on how I'd like to play. For example, in the DLC I had 3 routes, True route (true end), Dark souls route (kill everyone on meeting) and Black souls route (rape everyone on meeting), so it likely actually took me closer to about 30-ish hours.

 

[ametoq]

I think there’s an issue with this game while fighting bosses, you don’t know how much power is enough to beat them, so I spent 7-8 hours grinding in the Chaos Dungeon and dungeon at left side. When I returned, my damage was no longer increasing, and I started one-shotting everything until I reached Lorina. This reduced the enjoyment of the game for me a bit. I wish the grinding mechanics were more like Blacksouls 1, where as long as you focus wisely on damage or magic, there’s not much need to grind in BS1.BS2 is better in terms of content, but I had more fun in BS1 in terms of gameplay.

 

[Omnom88]

Thank you for sharing it with me, a shame that it's not in english(I assume the language in the picture is Thai), I'll have to manually translate it using google translate.

Well cool that this old case looped around. If you ever finish this project/translation would be nice if you post it here as well!

 

[Noah Neim]

I think there’s an issue with this game while fighting bosses, you don’t know how much power is enough to beat them, so I spent 7-8 hours grinding in the Chaos Dungeon and dungeon at left side. When I returned, my damage was no longer increasing, and I started one-shotting everything until I reached Lorina. This reduced the enjoyment of the game for me a bit. I wish the grinding mechanics were more like Blacksouls 1, where as long as you focus wisely on damage or magic, there’s not much need to grind in BS1.BS2 is better in terms of content, but I had more fun in BS1 in terms of gameplay.

I'd definitely disagree, unlike bs1, bs 2 atleast has difficult bosses, as much as some of them are gimicky, being maxed out iss only going to help you, but not solve everything
It definitely doessnt have better gameplay either, first reason, the summon feature is gone, the entire feature was pointless despite having potential, but the bosses simply werent good enough to supplement the NEED to have so many various abilities if you grind in the game.
2. The other weapons actually have a use, bs 1 really added cosmetic weapons just for the sake of it when it would only mildly impact efficency if you didnt have one of those attack all skills or self inflicted buffs, but it still isnt necessary if you do the exact same grind you literally just mentioned.


Still though, if you had more fun, that's a different thing

 

[Phenir]

I think there’s an issue with this game while fighting bosses, you don’t know how much power is enough to beat them, so I spent 7-8 hours grinding in the Chaos Dungeon and dungeon at left side. When I returned, my damage was no longer increasing, and I started one-shotting everything until I reached Lorina. This reduced the enjoyment of the game for me a bit. I wish the grinding mechanics were more like Blacksouls 1, where as long as you focus wisely on damage or magic, there’s not much need to grind in BS1.BS2 is better in terms of content, but I had more fun in BS1 in terms of gameplay.

Considering the game can be cleared sl1 with no colored souls used, I'll file this under skill issue.

 

[Noah Neim]

Considering the game can be cleared sl1 with no colored souls used, I'll file this under skill issue.

I did see a few of those videos, but all of them were made after having esentially every skill and item in the game maxed out, so for fairnesss i'd file this half a skill issue

 

[ametoq]

Considering the game can be cleared sl1 with no colored souls used, I'll file this under skill issue.

Actually, the problem is not the game is difficult.The problem is game leads you to chaos dungeon so early after I died some bosses and nightmare sprits at the start of the game that leads me too chaos dungeon and thats okay I generally like the grinding. But after grinding, I started to one-shot every creature I see till lorina and because of this I skipped some contents and fights was kinda boring after doing same fights like 5 time to see other endings and other suffs. Also bs1 easier and less chaotic. But I will try again playing without grinding to see how is it without grind.

 

[Omnom88]

The problem is game leads you to chaos dungeon so early

The duality of man.
Its always hilarous to see this. Some people who posted here never found the CD until users pointed out it exists and they were mindblown.
Other`s find it asap while exploreing the dungeon.
Or you have the outliers who found the red door at P-Body

 

[Phenir]

I did see a few of those videos, but all of them were made after having esentially every skill and item in the game maxed out, so for fairnesss i'd file this half a skill issue

It's not like they started with all that stuff. There's no excuse for resorting to grind here when you can just leave a fight for later and go progress somewhere else (that isn't the chaos dungeon).

Actually, the problem is not the game is difficult.The problem is game leads you to chaos dungeon so early after I died some bosses and nightmare sprits at the start of the game that leads me too chaos dungeon and thats okay I generally like the grinding. But after grinding, I started to one-shot every creature I see till lorina and because of this I skipped some contents and fights was kinda boring after doing same fights like 5 time to see other endings and other suffs. Also bs1 easier and less chaotic. But I will try again playing without grinding to see how is it without grind.

Mabel also warns you that the dungeon has nothing to do with your search for Alice.
I just think it's really weird to grind for 8 hours and then deride the game for being too easy. You made the choice to grind that hard. It wasn't forced on your nor was it actually necessary. Not saying it's bad. If that's what you need to do to keep progressing in the game then whatever, but it shouldn't be brought up when discussing the natural progression of the game.

 

[ametoq]

It's not like they started with all that stuff. There's no excuse for resorting to grind here when you can just leave a fight for later and go progress somewhere else (that isn't the chaos dungeon).

Mabel also warns you that the dungeon has nothing to do with your search for Alice.
I just think it's really weird to grind for 8 hours and then deride the game for being too easy. You made the choice to grind that hard. It wasn't forced on your nor was it actually necessary. Not saying it's bad. If that's what you need to do to keep progressing in the game then whatever, but it shouldn't be brought up when discussing the natural progression of the game.

For me chaos dungeon was also natural progression like finding Alice. It was not boring like killing same enemy again again and has great rewards. I just wanted to finish it before go new places lol. Its also closer than other areas to base that’s why I started there first.

 

[Omnom88]

Unless its brainrot, the readme file should also point out that ChaosDungeon is a literal dungeon crawler made so you can freely farm. On my OG runs i spend max 2hours +/- minutes in the Chaosdungeon when i hit a wall & by that point i already was in my G run trying to get everything together.
For H i spend another 1h or so in the chaosdungeon trying to get a specific +3 rings and the last ultimate skills.
After that i spend another 2ish hours to grind the boss rush itself for OuterSouls so i meet the 10k stat requirement.
Ofc i got somewhat lucky so i only had to get Black Slash & Dorothys thing from the skills.
But i never heard or at least no one else posted spending 8 hours in Chaos Dungeon. Unless you got really unlucky with some items drops, skillbooks or trying to chase down RNG based boss encoutners for lore.