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Stil996

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If all the subscription tiers were like the $1 tier where it is plainly stated that all you are doing is supporting him then you would be correct. But that is not the case. Anyone can go to the subscribestar and see the purported subscription benefits for the different tiers. This includes a $5 tier which gets the game right when it is updated (it does not get uploaded here til a week later), $10 tier with 7 day early access before the $5 patrons get their hands on it (2 weeks before posted here), and a $25 tier for some behind the scenes content. This all for a game that has been 99% ready for months, where the dev spent much of the beginning of this year teasing that the update is just around the corner. And he did the same damn thing last year, saying the update was going to be "next week" for months leading to the Christmas update releasing in May.

February of last year zip paused billing because he himself acknowledged such a delay was unacceptable. That was after 3-4 months of no update. This time it has been nearly 6 months of no update. But sure, keep shelling out your $10 a month, because it is sure to come out any day now! /s
And???... is there a point in there? I was challenging your "Pay Wall" bullshit.

If you are unsatisfied by the speed it's being developed nothing forces you to support him. I'm not going to defend his "predictions", he has let himself down on that count, but the benefits of each subscription are clearly defined... nothing in the game was paywalled.
 

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And???... is there a point in there? I was challenging your "Pay Wall" bullshit.

If you are unsatisfied by the speed it's being developed nothing forces you to support him. I'm not going to defend his "predictions", he has let himself down on that count, but the benefits of each subscription are clearly defined... nothing in the game was paywalled.
AAA gaming has seen a recent trend of "paywalling" early access to games behind a $10 deluxe edition upgrade. Zip is doing the same thing, but with no game in the end.

Maybe this is a difference in opinion on the definition of "paywall." But he has offered a product, told people those who subscribe to his service will get early access to that product, lied about the development and pending release of that product, and scammed people out of their money. If you have a different term for that besides paywalling benefits and then not delivering then please let me know. But that is my complaint regardless of what definition of "paywall" is settled on.
 

Stil996

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AAA gaming has seen a recent trend of "paywalling" early access to games behind a $10 deluxe edition upgrade. Zip is doing the same thing, but with no game in the end.

Maybe this is a difference in opinion on the definition of "paywall." But he has offered a product, told people those who subscribe to his service will get early access to that product, lied about the development and pending release of that product, and scammed people out of their money. That is my complaint regardless of what definition of "paywall" is settled on.
"Pay Wall" isn't a grey term, it's a term that refers to a something that blocks people from content unless they pay. He produced this game for FREE before he had Patreon/Subscribestar (when it was still a mod) and continues to be FREE.
Nobody has ever needed to be a supporter on any level to get access to this game.
 

Ru67i

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Another great game with great potential that went the way of so many others...dead and buried. It's sad because I had hoped for it until the end:cry:
 
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February of last year zip paused billing because he himself acknowledged such a delay was unacceptable. That was after 3-4 months of no update. This time it has been nearly 6 months of no update. But sure, keep shelling out your $10 a month, because it is sure to come out any day now! /s
Nearly 6 months?
According to F95 it has been 8 months since the last update.
He is a lost cause just like his supporters who accepts this stuff.
We all know that the next update won't justify the wait.
Not really a reason to complain as long as we don't pay.
I know I have made fun of this game/creator earlier but by now everyone knows what's up.
 

Scotty1212

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Nearly 6 months?
According to F95 it has been 8 months since the last update.
He is a lost cause just like his supporters who accepts this stuff.
We all know that the next update won't justify the wait.
Not really a reason to complain as long as we don't pay.
I know I have made fun of this game/creator earlier but by now everyone knows what's up.
yep...
 
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He is a lost cause just like his supporters who accepts this stuff.
We all know that the next update won't justify the wait.
Not really a reason to complain as long as we don't pay.
I know I have made fun of this game/creator earlier but by now everyone knows what's up.
and yet here you still are.
Complaining about the free game instead of, I don't know, moving on with your life and playing something else.
 

edgaia

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and yet here you still are.
Complaining about the free game instead of, I don't know, moving on with your life and playing something else.
Estamos todos

# We all are: the complainers ( (y) ) and the complainers about complainers ( (n) bunch of *#$% - yeah you and your pack... ). Talk about having a life...:ROFLMAO: But in your case I think you've stopped thinking about what to post a long time ago - copy paste turned out to be way much easier...

( I've looked into your recommendations. I used to play "A family venture". You don't mention "Long story short"... The other ones aren't appealing enough. So, good friend, there's no end in sight to the ruffle - both sides... )
 
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edgaia

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Nah, it's over now...plus if an update ever comes out it would have to be really big, otherwise people would get even more angry
Nah...

# It's not over and it'll be a micro update as always or... or a makeover with the old material to fit Patreon standards. Either way never before Q4.
 
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Pre-Release 0.15.49

Hey Folks,

I will be releasing a "Test" Version this Sunday / Monday 14th / 15th April. The purpose of this is to show you what has been done as there is still some thing I am rewriting "Yes I know I alway changing things". Also, you can give me feedback on the content as well.

This version is large due to the improved images and switching back to using PNG's. There is about 1,400+ renders which includes animations as well. I have pulled some of the club scenes as the animations were is bit janky as I going to redo them and also improve the fighting scenes etc. I also moving around some of the scenes with Lucy and Julia as it was not working.

Disclaimer this is a Pre-Release so I will be changing things after so a restart will be required as the code will need to be changed.

So what is in the "Test" version.

  • Test Saves to play the newer scenes
  • Improved animations
  • Scenes coloured corrected and better lighting
  • Using PNG's instead of JPEG's
  • Lucy and Julia scenes
  • Mom and Evelyn scenes
 
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