Ren'Py Bobby's Memoirs of Depravity [v0.15.53] [ZipTieFun]

[mikednew]

chill blood the official game gave everyone blue balls, and got stuck in the same place, more porn no sense things are totally welcome, better evaluate some ass than liza boyfriend bullshit

My complaint is not about the lack of sexual progression (blue balls), but the preparation to get there is very poorly written and constructed in Bobby's Memoirs of Depravity. The characters are a mess. Not to mention that if you look at it from that perspective, MOD already delivers much more and quickly than BBS. Bobby already has sex with unconscious girls at work.

Lisa's boyfriend arc at least makes sense and Lisa reacts realistically. The characters are more consistent and the game becomes more immersive. In other words, it's much more exciting when you achieve something in BBS than in MOD. If you don't like Lisa's boyfriend arc, that's fine, but BBS is not just that. The characters are well presented, they more or less have personalities, we have consistency in their behavior and speech, and we have a certain realism: the mother who cries in the shower and gets depressed when she loses her job. Lisa suffering because she's being blackmailed. Jenny's surprise and disgust when Bob says he loves her, etc. Despite his poor English, Rainces knew how women behaved. Although the renders weren't of high quality, he understood body language. He even used details of things girls do, like a simple hair adjustment:

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When Bob enters the bathroom, Anna gets scared and covers herself. Rainces manages to convey this in his renders. She puts her arms over her breasts and covers herself, protecting her body from Bob's gaze. These are reactions that women have and that are missing in the ZipTie game:

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[mikednew]

Finalmente estás a perceber a razão de tanta irritação...

# Finally you're catching up with all the fuss from the fans. It's just like you said: a messy pile of nonsense going nowhere... Add all the lying and dragging and you get the full picture. Right up to v0.15.94 we were getting the impression things were finally getting on track: new content, story progression, fun stuff. But no, back to square one. We need someone like you to put an end to this torture.

I don't know what he intends to do, but from what you said, he already has all the renders to get to the point where he stopped and restarted the project. If he's going to follow the same path, then he could easily make regular updates.

If Zip wanted, I could help him for free with writing and even creating some scenes in Daz Studio so he could render them on his computer. What he's doing with the characters is really bad. Maybe I could help him put things in a more consistent way with the original characters and with what made BBS win so many fans.

 

[edgaia]

I don't know what he intends to do, but from what you said, he already has all the renders to get to the point where he stopped and restarted the project. If he's going to follow the same path, then he could easily make regular updates.

If Zip wanted, I could help him for free with writing and even creating some scenes in Daz Studio so he could render them on his computer. What he's doing with the characters is really bad. Maybe I could help him put things in a more consistent way with the original characters and with what made BBS win so many fans.

Se ele quisesse o jogo já teria acabado (o conteudo até ao BBS v1.1 do RAInces). A ideia dele é fazer render o peixe.

# Yeah he does (all the renders needed). But as long as this stream keeps dripping easy money into his pocket, he'll keep milking it, not finishing the game, or worse, starting it over and over again. He doesn't need any help, he needs his funding to be cut off. Many have offered him a hand, all sorts of help but that never got through to him because that's not his goal.

Seriously, try to make a full version of BBS on your own.

 

[efewafeaw]

need a hero 15.54 is out

 

[ZipTieFun]

I don't know what he intends to do, but from what you said, he already has all the renders to get to the point where he stopped and restarted the project. If he's going to follow the same path, then he could easily make regular updates.

If Zip wanted, I could help him for free with writing and even creating some scenes in Daz Studio so he could render them on his computer. What he's doing with the characters is really bad. Maybe I could help him put things in a more consistent way with the original characters and with what made BBS win so many fans.

You have many valid points... but the only thing is that this version is not meant to be a carbon copy of Ra's game. The original game has a very long history and the characters changed many times in his game based on different factors.

I am a fan of his game and been playing it and supporting it since 2017.. So I seen all the changes and unfinished stories.. and yes picked up some of Ra's bad habits as well....

Character changes:
I made some changes to Ms Anna character as she was cold and distance in Ra's game and everytime Bobby tried to get close to her she push him away... but at the end of version 1.1 she started to show feeling toward Bobby and there was meant to be scenes showing them going for walks etc...
I just changed her into a single hard working mother who feel regret for not spending time with her kids now that there have trouble in there lives.... The infamous scene in the bathroom with the towel was a non-event as in Ms Anna eyes it was an accident and did not see it as sexual... I want Ms Anna to be sweet and kind and care for Bobby but have Bobby use this to take advantage of her. Then with Lucy I want the opposite as she is the oldest and bullied Bobby and the other girls for nearly all of there life....

My main take in my version is that the girls do not see Bobby as a man e.g. don't see him as a threat or sexual interest.

Part of the redo on the game is to link all the girls stories together and not have them run as separate isolated events. Also I am adding back in all the render's at 1080p and also improve the animations along with improve coding etc...

The one thing people forget is that Ra's started off with Bobby as a 12 / 13 old with zero sexual knowledge and Bobby was using his family to satisfy his urges.... but later changed as he did not want to get kicked of patreon also he changed name of the game as it was "Bad Brother Saga".

When I first played his game I loved it and wished he had more scenes and went further with the girls... and that was the main reason I learned to code in Renpy and create scenes in Daz3d and blender.... because I lost count of how many games like his were abandoned or the dev removed the sleepsex or family scenes because they did not what to get canceled.

 

[edgaia]

You have many valid points... but the only thing is that this version is not meant to be a carbon copy of Ra's game. The original game has a very long history and the characters changed many times in his game based on different factors.

I am a fan of his game and been playing it and supporting it since 2017.. So I seen all the changes and unfinished stories.. and yes picked up some of Ra's bad habits as well....

Character changes:
I made some changes to Ms Anna character as she was cold and distance in Ra's game and everytime Bobby tried to get close to her she push him away... but at the end of version 1.1 she started to show feeling toward Bobby and there was meant to be scenes showing them going for walks etc...
I just changed her into a single hard working mother who feel regret for not spending time with her kids now that there have trouble in there lives.... The infamous scene in the bathroom with the towel was a non-event as in Ms Anna eyes it was an accident and did not see it as sexual... I want Ms Anna to be sweet and kind and care for Bobby but have Bobby use this to take advantage of her. Then with Lucy I want the opposite as she is the oldest and bullied Bobby and the other girls for nearly all of there life....

My main take in my version is that the girls do not see Bobby as a man e.g. don't see him as a threat or sexual interest.

Part of the redo on the game is to link all the girls stories together and not have them run as separate isolated events. Also I am adding back in all the render's at 1080p and also improve the animations along with improve coding etc...

The one thing people forget is that Ra's started off with Bobby as a 12 / 13 old with zero sexual knowledge and Bobby was using his family to satisfy his urges.... but later changed as he did not want to get kicked of patreon also he changed name of the game as it was "Bad Brother Saga".

When I first played his game I loved it and wished he had more scenes and went further with the girls... and that was the main reason I learned to code in Renpy and create scenes in Daz3d and blender.... because I lost count of how many games like his were abandoned or the dev removed the sleepsex or family scenes because they did not what to get canceled.

Menos conversa e mais ação... Sempre a mesma treta.

# You do the talk, but you refuse to do the walk. "picked up some of Ra's bad habits" - you definitely did. RA's game, with all its flaws is way better than that micro sample of yours. But, what am I saying... You are RAInces. The time to cut the bullshit and start to deliver properly is long overdue. The original or the mod. Respect BBS fans, your fans.

 

[redharvest1]

Menos conversa e mais ação... Sempre a mesma treta.

# You do the talk, but you refuse to do the walk. "picked up some of Ra's bad habits" - you definitely did. RA's game, with all its flaws is way better than that micro sample of yours. But, what am I saying... You are RAInces. The time to cut the bullshit and start to deliver properly is long overdue. The original or the mod. Respect BBS fans, your fans.

Enough already. Look I damned sure am not a fan of Ziptiefun's lying ass BUT to say he's Rainces is laughable. If there is one thing coding (even in Ren'py) and producing Renders via Daz3d have it's the uniqueness of each individuals work. Anyone with the slightest proficiency in Ren'py and Daz3d can easily distinguish the coding and artistic style between users.
NO ONE, and I do mean NO ONE can exactly duplicate the artistic style, posing, lighting and tone mapping of another artist, there will always be differences that are readily apparent between any two individuals even where attempting to render an identical scenario involving the same purchased assets. It's impossible because every 3D artist has their own individual style.

The fact is Ziptie is slightly better at the artistic end of things, particularly in lighting, camera work and sequencing whereas RAInces is MILES ahead of Zip in terms of coding, literally no comparison, Zip's Ren'py coding is laughably bad.

 

[edgaia]

Enough already. Look I damned sure am not a fan of Ziptiefun's lying ass BUT to say he's Rainces is laughable. If there is one thing coding (even in Ren'py) and producing Renders via Daz3d have it's the uniqueness of each individuals work. Anyone with the slightest proficiency in Ren'py and Daz3d can easily distinguish the coding and artistic style between users.
NO ONE, and I do mean NO ONE can exactly duplicate the artistic style, posing, lighting and tone mapping of another artist, there will always be differences that are readily apparent between any two individuals even where attempting to render an identical scenario involving the same purchased assets. It's impossible because every 3D artist has their own individual style.

The fact is Ziptie is slightly better at the artistic end of things, particularly in lighting, camera work and sequencing whereas RAInces is MILES ahead of Zip in terms of coding, literally no comparison, Zip's Ren'py coding is laughably bad.

Os devs evoluem e experimentam...

# Devs evolve, devs experiment. you know...artists.

 

[redharvest1]

Os devs evoluem e experimentam...

# Devs evolve, devs experiment. you know...artists.

Evolving typically means advancing not regressing several years. Once again the ren'py coding used by Ziptiefun looks like it was written by a drunken monkey or a 12 year old, Rainces's coding is way more polished and sophisticated than anything Zip has scripted. One looks like it was written by someone struggling to follow along on a Youtube tutorial and the other looks like it was scripted by someone with a lot of practice.
For example, I lost count of the number of conditional checks I found floating around in Zip's last release that literally do NOTHING, entire pages of useless deadend triggers that don't even affect the game.

As for the art evolving, once again it is IMPOSSIBLE for two artists to use the same base assets and get identical results, and the differences (which you apparently cannot see) are glaring and obvious to anyone who has experience with rendering no matter how hard they try. Personal styles are as distinct as fingerprints to other artists.

The only thing both developers have in common is they both produce a weak ass ripoff of the original game and both consistently duped their subscribers... although ZIP is by far the worst offender when it comes to that.

 

[arseni95]

need a hero 15.54 is out!!

 

[little devil``]

need a hero 15.54 is out!!

Waiting for 15.54? Why not wait until there is a new BB game someday?

 

[arseni95]

Waiting for 15.54? Why not wait until there is a new BB game someday?

The way of the samurai.

 

[redharvest1]

The way of the samurai.

No Samurai ever begged for a hero... they forged their own destiny.



*Bad japanese Accent*

You are no Samurai!

 

[arseni95]

No Samurai ever begged for a hero... they forged their own destiny.

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*Bad japanese Accent*

You are no Samurai!

The path of a poor samurai without a sword, instead of a sword a d*ck.

 

[redharvest1]

The path of a poor samurai without a sword, instead of a sword a d*ck.

Let us hope you keep it well oiled then, but be careful when sharpening it. lol.

 

[wowowohhh]

Is ZipTieFun a Russian?

 

[Brad90]

You have many valid points... but the only thing is that this version is not meant to be a carbon copy of Ra's game. The original game has a very long history and the characters changed many times in his game based on different factors.

I am a fan of his game and been playing it and supporting it since 2017.. So I seen all the changes and unfinished stories.. and yes picked up some of Ra's bad habits as well....

Character changes:
I made some changes to Ms Anna character as she was cold and distance in Ra's game and everytime Bobby tried to get close to her she push him away... but at the end of version 1.1 she started to show feeling toward Bobby and there was meant to be scenes showing them going for walks etc...
I just changed her into a single hard working mother who feel regret for not spending time with her kids now that there have trouble in there lives.... The infamous scene in the bathroom with the towel was a non-event as in Ms Anna eyes it was an accident and did not see it as sexual... I want Ms Anna to be sweet and kind and care for Bobby but have Bobby use this to take advantage of her. Then with Lucy I want the opposite as she is the oldest and bullied Bobby and the other girls for nearly all of there life....

My main take in my version is that the girls do not see Bobby as a man e.g. don't see him as a threat or sexual interest.

Part of the redo on the game is to link all the girls stories together and not have them run as separate isolated events. Also I am adding back in all the render's at 1080p and also improve the animations along with improve coding etc...

The one thing people forget is that Ra's started off with Bobby as a 12 / 13 old with zero sexual knowledge and Bobby was using his family to satisfy his urges.... but later changed as he did not want to get kicked of patreon also he changed name of the game as it was "Bad Brother Saga".

When I first played his game I loved it and wished he had more scenes and went further with the girls... and that was the main reason I learned to code in Renpy and create scenes in Daz3d and blender.... because I lost count of how many games like his were abandoned or the dev removed the sleepsex or family scenes because they did not what to get canceled.

I completely disagree with that assessment. Bobby isn't any age. It shows a youth, but it's simply an alter ego. He was deviant from day one where his fetish for control shapes.

In your version presently. He has the same fetish. It introduces it immediately. In fact if we base that introduction of his experience of acting out his nature, you've inserted a shop keeper assistant. Then you've added in stuff that makes no sense simply to drag out the content and or release of it. Into another cut and dry take. He needs a footjob/boobjob from Lisa, instead of blackmailing her into his demands. He needs to kiss the drunk girl, but he's paid her to get drunk so he can act out his deviance. It's unnecessary. Meanwhile anybody else who has played the various versions faster questions any intent and story. He builds a basement simply to watch sexy yoga poses when he was sneaking into his landlady's room and raping?

It is what is. Nobody would be questioning or complaining if it released when you said it would, and it carried into the rest of the game they formerly played. However, it isn't, and it sooner becomes a comparison. Where you can dress up another piggy, decking it out in the current animations and renders, but it's still a piggy. That of course is up to you, on how it shapes and releases.

 

[mikednew]

You have many valid points... but the only thing is that this version is not meant to be a carbon copy of Ra's game. I just changed her into a single hard working mother who feel regret for not spending time with her kids now that there have trouble in there lives.... The infamous scene in the bathroom with the towel was a non-event as in Ms Anna eyes it was an accident and did not see it as sexual... I want Ms Anna to be sweet and kind and care for Bobby but have Bobby use this to take advantage of her. Then with Lucy I want the opposite as she is the oldest and bullied Bobby and the other girls for nearly all of there life....
My main take in my version is that the girls do not see Bobby as a man e.g. don't see him as a threat or sexual interest.

So you want to change the characters. Why then use the same models and the same names? But the biggest problem is not changing the characters... it's that the characters are inconsistent and the things that happen don't make sense and it's all very implausible. I have sisters and a mother and they don't see me as a threat or a sexual interest. Still, they don't show me their butts so I can evaluate them. Women have automatic reactions to nudity. Since they are children, they are taught not to sit with their legs open, not to show their panties... nudity is a big deal for women in our culture. That's why the reaction of a naked mother when she is surprised by her son is to cover herself. No matter how loving and understanding she is, she will do it.

You said that the event in the bathroom was not sexual, but Lisa jokes with him saying that she heard that he attacked their mother in the bathroom. Now, if the event was normal in the mother's eyes, why did she tell Lisa? And why would Lisa make a joke like that? A sister would never make an incestuous joke about him and their mother.

I understand your intentions that you are exposing now. But for them to be reached, things need to be written better, there are a lot of incoherent things. For example, Anna wants to spend more time with Bob, as you said, because she feels guilty about not spending time with the kids, but Bob is only one of them and the youngest is Jenny. A mother would pay more attention to the youngest because the others have already spent time with her. That's why if you didn't tell me that she acts like this with Bob out of regret, I would never guess. When Bob and her are in the basement, he suggests that she call the girls to help, but Anna says no because they would supposedly fight and it would be faster just the two of them. Now, does she regret not spending enough time with everyone or not? Because from your writing it seems like she only wants Bob. And another thing: if she wants to use the basement renovation as an opportunity to spend time with her children, then she is in no hurry to finish.

I will make more observations, in case you want or have time to analyze them:

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Anyway, there are many things that could be written better to achieve the goal you want. Maybe it's your style, this more cartoonish and nonsensical thing. But as I said, if you want I can help you give more substance to the characters and situations.

 

[efewafeaw]

Someone be a hero and post link

 

[Sid01]

You have many valid points... but the only thing is that this version is not meant to be a carbon copy of Ra's game. The original game has a very long history and the characters changed many times in his game based on different factors.

I am a fan of his game and been playing it and supporting it since 2017.. So I seen all the changes and unfinished stories.. and yes picked up some of Ra's bad habits as well....

Character changes:
I made some changes to Ms Anna character as she was cold and distance in Ra's game and everytime Bobby tried to get close to her she push him away... but at the end of version 1.1 she started to show feeling toward Bobby and there was meant to be scenes showing them going for walks etc...
I just changed her into a single hard working mother who feel regret for not spending time with her kids now that there have trouble in there lives.... The infamous scene in the bathroom with the towel was a non-event as in Ms Anna eyes it was an accident and did not see it as sexual... I want Ms Anna to be sweet and kind and care for Bobby but have Bobby use this to take advantage of her. Then with Lucy I want the opposite as she is the oldest and bullied Bobby and the other girls for nearly all of there life....

My main take in my version is that the girls do not see Bobby as a man e.g. don't see him as a threat or sexual interest.

Part of the redo on the game is to link all the girls stories together and not have them run as separate isolated events. Also I am adding back in all the render's at 1080p and also improve the animations along with improve coding etc...

The one thing people forget is that Ra's started off with Bobby as a 12 / 13 old with zero sexual knowledge and Bobby was using his family to satisfy his urges.... but later changed as he did not want to get kicked of patreon also he changed name of the game as it was "Bad Brother Saga".

When I first played his game I loved it and wished he had more scenes and went further with the girls... and that was the main reason I learned to code in Renpy and create scenes in Daz3d and blender.... because I lost count of how many games like his were abandoned or the dev removed the sleepsex or family scenes because they did not what to get canceled.

Sorry, but discussing the plot when you release individual scenes that take you months is pointless. Rainces had a plot approach and had enough material to show it even if he needed a year to prepare. You just add more scenes and polish the graphics. There is no greater intention in it.