VN Bonds of Trust - A game idea with the focus on a Dom/Sub-relationship

[J II D]

Well I have this, though this was when I forgot the make-up and forgot to change the eye color. But I will make a render of her without make up as fast as possible. View attachment 263636

Much better : ).
For me personally at least..

-Red hair
-Small perky breasts
-Innocent face
-Detail in Body

Love her

 

[OctoPriest]

I rather like the idea of a story based more on a dom/sub relationship. All too often sex and eroticism in these sort of games are an end to the story, a reward, rather than used to help propel it forward. If anything, I'd be highly interested to see a game take on what happens AFTER you've acquired your harem. How do you navigate the tangled web of relationships it causes? Do your actions cause jealousy or obsession? Do they fight among themselves and break into groups? Do some draw closer? Do some feel neglected and leave? Do you treat them equally or as a heiarchy? Are you cruel or kind? How do they, with their varying personalities and relantionships to you, all react differently to various events? Etc etc. It just seems like there's countless stories to be told beyond just the 'meet someone new and try to bang her in different positions' one.

 

[GhostPhil]

Much better : ).
For me personally at least..

-Red hair
-Small perky breasts
-Innocent face
-Detail in Body

Love her

Thanks, I actually think of making her without or with less make-up and maybe add make-up for some events

I rather like the idea of a story based more on a dom/sub relationship. All too often sex and eroticism in these sort of games are an end to the story, a reward, rather than used to help propel it forward. If anything, I'd be highly interested to see a game take on what happens AFTER you've acquired your harem. How do you navigate the tangled web of relationships it causes? Do your actions cause jealousy or obsession? Do they fight among themselves and break into groups? Do some draw closer? Do some feel neglected and leave? Do you treat them equally or as a heiarchy? Are you cruel or kind? How do they, with their varying personalities and relantionships to you, all react differently to various events? Etc etc. It just seems like there's countless stories to be told beyond just the 'meet someone new and try to bang her in different positions' one.

Right?! I am always wondering why there isn't a harem in the terms of a polygamy relationship. Altough I want to focus this game on the relationshop of two persons. But I am definitly planing to do some events in the BDSM Club, so there is the possibility for interactions with other characters.
I mean I don't want to have only two characters in that story

 

[Hadley]

Making a good Game like that would be pretty hard since the point of having a submissive girl is that she trusts you 100% and does what you ask without questioning it.

So the Game would need to focus on building that relationship with your Sub slowly.

 

[GhostPhil]

Making a good Game like that would be pretty hard since the point of having a submissive girl is that she trusts you 100% and does what you ask without questioning it.

So the Game would need to focus on building that relationship with your Sub slowly.

I know. That's why I am thinking of doing some smaller timejumps at some point to indicate that their bond got stronger.

I know that it will be a bit tricky to make the whole thing as realistic as possible, but I will try at least

 

[J II D]

A good BDSM game would be nice actually.

Can't really think of any games on this site that does that genre well(maybe some small aspects, but none as a whole).

I do have to say that i am rather curious about how you are going to implement the "customer" section in this game.
I for one could not handle it if i have to see that beautiful girl being intimate with multiple other men.

So a choice would be "good" maybe that the male character could make the choice for her to either put her in the rotation to have experiences with other men. Or that he keeps her for his own.

But i know nothing about this game and maybe you have written a good story/scenario in where it all makes sense .
But i am surely going to keep an eye on this one... Her face and body are already a permanent picture in my head so

 

[TheDevian]

Another character that I think about adding, but I am still not sure what to do with her, if she will be dominant, submissiv, a switch or more vanilla. Also not sure what part she would have in the story. I am still in the process of finding characters, creating them, but I actually like her, so yeah. And of course I don't have a name for her yet.
So what do you think about the redhead?
View attachment 263628

Spoiler: Redhead

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

View attachment 263628 View attachment 263629 View attachment 263630 View attachment 263631 View attachment 263632

She certainly looks like a sub to me, though maybe her master let's her train other subs for him, making her a bit of a switch.

 

[GhostPhil]

A good BDSM game would be nice actually.

Can't really think of any games on this site that does that genre well(maybe some small aspects, but none as a whole).

I agree that there aren't really any BDSM focused games in a realistic way. And a lot of game only use small aspects of the BDSM setting. And sadly a lot of the stuff is achieved through som ekind of corruption, mind control or blackmail.
I want to do a more realistic approach.

I do have to say that i am rather curious about how you are going to implement the "customer" section in this game.
I for one could not handle it if i have to see that beautiful girl being intimate with multiple other men.

So a choice would be "good" maybe that the male character could make the choice for her to either put her in the rotation to have experiences with other men. Or that he keeps her for his own.

Not 100% sure what you mean with customer section.
I will try to make everything optional and I hope I can make it, that you can cancel any scene with a safeword.
So things like sharing will be a thing, but i am not sure how big and to what extent.

But i know nothing about this game and maybe you have written a good story/scenario in where it all makes sense .
But i am surely going to keep an eye on this one... Her face and body are already a permanent picture in my head so

Well it will be a lot of work, but hopefully everything works out for me

I actually like her a lot as well

She certainly looks like a sub to me, though maybe her master let's her train other subs for him, making her a bit of a switch.

Yeah I think she might be a candidate for the female protagonist.
And it is up to both characters to decide this. I mean the MP will definitly be a bit of Switch.
And I could see her dominating some other girl

 

[GhostPhil]

So here she is this time without make up . I really like it that way.
I put her on the list for possible female protagonists

 

[Segnbora]

I agree that there aren't really any BDSM focused games in a realistic way.

I think the BDSM itself in Deviant Discoveries is quite realistic, but as you say the path to get you there is (most unfortunately, to my taste) a really unpleasant mind-control/chemical rape scenario that I still don't think needs to be there.

It's not a BDSM game per se, but I think Sisterly Lust does a pretty good job with its BDSM elements. Even then, however, one of the major paths in which it occurs involves coercion/blackmail.

It would be really refreshing to see a BDSM-focused game without the constant looming threat of consent violation.

 

[Wooloomooloo]

I vaguely remember intending to assemble some word here, but I'm afraid having looked at the picture above I forgot all about it... now excuse me - I'll be in my bunk.

 

[J II D]

So here she is this time without make up . I really like it that way.
I put her on the list for possible female protagonists
View attachment 264007

I love her.

That's the long and short about it...
Characters like her will always have my full (financial) support : )

 

[GhostPhil]

I think the BDSM itself in Deviant Discoveries is quite realistic, but as you say the path to get you there is (most unfortunately, to my taste) a really unpleasant mind-control/chemical rape scenario that I still don't think needs to be there.

It's not a BDSM game per se, but I think Sisterly Lust does a pretty good job with its BDSM elements. Even then, however, one of the major paths in which it occurs involves coercion/blackmail.

It would be really refreshing to see a BDSM-focused game without the constant looming threat of consent violation.

Right the scenes itself in Deviant Discoveries were actually quite good and realistic, but as you said the path wasn't.

And how do I always forget about Sisterly Lust in that term. That game is one of my favorites, but I somehow always forget the quite good BDSM content But yeah it is a bit of a bummer that there is the blackmail that leads to the domination relationship. At least you can change the relationship a bit later on.

For me it is really important to get the consent part as right as possible. One of my favorite stories when it comes to BDSM is the one in the comic Sunstone. I think this comic influences me the most in many ways.

I vaguely remember intending to assemble some word here, but I'm afraid having looked at the picture above I forgot all about it... now excuse me - I'll be in my bunk.

You can assemble every word you want here, I am happy for everything I get
Maybe I can make you remember later with another picture?

I love her.

That's the long and short about it...
Characters like her will always have my full (financial) support : )

Hehe Well she certeinly is a cutie

 

[Darknoob123]

Is already anyone working on this project? Otherwise i will try. I dont have too much experience in porn games, but im working as an programmer for an company.

 

[GhostPhil]

Is already anyone working on this project? Otherwise i will try. I dont have too much experience in porn games, but im working as an programmer for an company.

I am still not at the point where I can do any coding. But it is planed to use Ren'Py as a VN-engine.

 

[GhostPhil]

Ok I finally have my first prototype for a dominatrix character, that is a good friend of the male protagonist and that also is a member of the BDSM club. - The BDSM club, has a big member area and a big non member area -

I have one version for her with and one without the fullbody tattoo. I definitly like the tattooed version better, but I kind of want to make a custom tattoo for her. But I still have to learn how And I think I have to tone her down in general a bit as her colors are a bit much I mean colored eyelashes

For now I only have the tattooed version, because for whatever reason Daz Studio didn't save the other version. I have to redo her today...

So here at least the version with the tattoo:

 

[Segnbora]

I think the tattoos "float" in a way that (in concert with an incredibly unrealistic intensity of color) makes them look a little odd. Also: if you're gonna dye the pubes and the eyelashes, you have to dye the eyebrows as well.

Also: that woman would have at least a clit piercing, if not a clitoral and labial piercing. And I say this as someone who doesn't particularly love either tattoos or piercings.

 

[GhostPhil]

I think the tattoos "float" in a way that (in concert with an incredibly unrealistic intensity of color) makes them look a little odd

Yeah I know, that is how the preset looks, I have to look if I can tone it down somehow. On the other side I want to give her a new custom made fullbody tattoo at some point.

Also: if you're gonna dye the pubes and the eyelashes, you have to dye the eyebrows as well.

Actually they are in the same color, no clue why they are so dark! I have to figure this out as it bugs me as well.

Also: that woman would have at least a clit piercing, if not a clitoral and labial piercing. And I say this as someone who doesn't particularly love either tattoos or piercings.

I knoooow I want them as well, but there are no presets for them, so I have to figure out, if can use others and just "move" them down there. I so need piercings down there. Also I really want to change the nipple piercings. But yeah sadly you can't find that many different ones.

 

[Back]

Like the makeup on the redhead model, it's just way, way too much. There are too many things going on which makes it extremely busy and distracting. I wouldn't take this person seriously at all especially as someone that's supposed to be a "dominatrix"--she's a clown!

I don't mean to put down G.Phil's work especially since s/he appeared to have enjoyed creating these renders but I don't want to hide behind a facade of smiles and lies. I want to provide honest feedback.

Seriously, forty-four or so piercings on her face alone? What? Wow... that's terrible. If anything, it's a strong indicator of some underlying psychosomatic issue perhaps low self-esteem combined with attention-seeking and self-injurious behaviors. Those are bad combos. I'm not just pulling that out of thin air, I have extensive, professional experience dealing with people with certain disabilities. Any potential Dom-seeking Subs would be well-advised to avoid someone like this candidate as establishing trust would be, uh, difficult at best.

Ignoring all the piercings or colored ink on her, when the player first encounters her I assume she'll be clothed. Like in RL, I'll have to make a physical effort from laughing out loud right to their face for having off-colored hair like that. I guess it could be worse, but heck, even the colored eyelashes underneath the eyes are super loud--they practically yell "Look at me! I need attention!". But really? What's the deal with the blue bush? I could just imagine the scene where this supposed dominatrix gets to the point to revealing what hides down under and her partner looks upon it dumbfounded. The dominatrix might think her partner is in awe, when suddenly her partner rolls over laughing at the absurdity of it all! Hahahahaha! That'd be a surefire way of suddenly shifting the Dom-Sub paradigm.

Again, I want to emphasize that I'm not trying to disparage the work put into the sample renders, but I can't get around the fact that she would be better placed elsewhere (in a professional sense which I don't want to name here) instead of being serious a candidate as someone's Dom. Reading over my post, I apologize if the post appeared hurtful or appeared to be mocking G.Phil. I wanted to be honest and intended no ill will. So with respect, let me just succinctly say that: sometimes less is more.

Edit: I had intended to comment about the other piercings and ink, but thought better of it...

 

[GhostPhil]

You don't need to appologize, I really apprechiate all the feedback that I can get

I mean I have to totally agree with you I personally just love lots of piercings and sometimes tattoos on a female body. So I somehow went totally overboard. When I first created her, I had the whole "Suicide Girls" thing in mind.
At first her piercings were all black and a lot less, but then I found the gemstone material and had a lot of fun adding it. And I personally have to say I really love how it looks, although it is way overboard
And she is attention-seeking, but in a good way. She likes to be out of the "norm".

I also know, that with her colored pubes,eyelashes, etc. she doesn't look like the typical dome, but I never intended her to be a professional dominatrix like you would imagine one. It is planed that she has an husband, who also is her sub. So yeah as her real tattoos I intend to use a lot darker ones with darker imagery, not sure what exactly.
As her hair I wanted a more crazy haircolor, this is actually way toned down as I first intended. I also planned to color the pubes, and eyebrows like the hair color, but as you said, it doesn't fit totally well. And the eyelashes were just some fun, because I was glad that this actually worked

Originally I tried to make her muscular, but sadly it didn't really fit her.

So I think I will use her like she is here for something else, maybe something futuristic.

- For the game I will change the tattoos to something moodier.
- I will change the pubes, eyelashes and eyebrow color to something natural.
- I will delete some of the piercings, but not as many an maybe change their color.

And to your Edit, you can say what you like I don't mind.
So thanks for your feedback