VN Bonds of Trust - A game idea with the focus on a Dom/Sub-relationship

Which 3 hair styles do you prefer? (1 - 10)


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freedom.call

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Naah I like my Redheads without tattoos, may one or two piercings, but even there I don't really need them ;)
She's perfect, I can live with a piercing or two. Might even try the game even if it's going to be a little outside my 'comfort zone'.

Maybe old dogs can learn to appreciate new 'tricks'. :) Having tried many games here I do feel more open to test my limits.
 

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She's perfect, I can live with a piercing or two. Might even try the game even if it's going to be a little outside my 'comfort zone'.

Maybe old dogs can learn to appreciate new 'tricks'. :) Having tried many games here I do feel more open to test my limits.
She won't get anything too extreme that is for sure. ;)

I want to try making all the fetishes optional, so everybody can choose what they like best ;)
 

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I hope you will go heavy with some kinks, you known what I like;)
The kinks will be under the rule of SSC (safe sane and consentual), but I will go at the limits of it. But there are definitly kinks that won't fit even if I would like to. So yeah I can't promise how extreme it will get. (probably watersports, hard spanking, etc.)
 

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The kinks will be under the rule of SSC (safe sane and consentual), but I will go at the limits of it. But there are definitly kinks that won't fit even if I would like to. So yeah I can't promise how extreme it will get. (probably watersports, hard spanking, etc.)
So,no double anal fisting ending in a glorious prolapse sucking:(
 

GhostPhil

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So,no double anal fisting ending in a glorious prolapse sucking:(
That is definitly too much! Maybe I can make an easter egg of this. That you can see a such a scene in the BDSM Club :D But yeah that is a bit much :D
 
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Completly new set of Tattoos on her. Also toned her eyelashes and pubes down. What do you think?
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Like it a lot : ).

The darker tattoo give her a much more "stern" look.
Love the piercings and her beauty mark.
Pubes are much better, looks more "taken care of" right now what seems more in check with the rest of her body.
You kept her side shaven head, so again... Much love for that : ).

If i can give 1 thing that might be slightly negative.
Right now her tattoo's remind me a little bit of Kat von D.
Nice's tattoo's, but more of a scrapbook of pieces instead of 1 tattoo that flows together or works together.

That's probably a personal preference, i just like tattoo's more if they form 1 picture or if they work together instead of "scrapbooking" ..

But for the rest i would say you nailed it : )
 

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The darker tattoo give her a much more "stern" look.
Love the piercings and her beauty mark.
Pubes are much better, looks more "taken care of" right now what seems more in check with the rest of her body.
You kept her side shaven head, so again... Much love for that : ).
The only thing that really really bugs me now, is the fact that one of the facial expressions changed the damn mouth! I have to see that I can fix it somehow.
I also added some piercings to her genitals, so I will see if I can make a nice zoom to show that as well.

If i can give 1 thing that might be slightly negative.
Right now her tattoo's remind me a little bit of Kat von D.
Nice's tattoo's, but more of a scrapbook of pieces instead of 1 tattoo that flows together or works together.

That's probably a personal preference, i just like tattoo's more if they form 1 picture or if they work together instead of "scrapbooking" ..
What/ Who is Kat von D?
But I agree with you, my goal is a tattoo for her whole body that feels like one big piece of art. Like a comic that goes from one scene to another. My biggest problem is to make good transition between the single tattoos. It is especially difficult to make in Daz in my opinion.

So yeah I have to see if I can fix those problems today.
 

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This is better. I believe in the authenticity of this character model much more in this version than I did before, in which she looked overly fantastical and a little cartoony. This woman looks likes she's been through some shit, which is a solid visual characterization. She doesn't really tick off any of my personal boxes (save for her mostly impossible but standard-for-porn-games body), but that doesn't matter. I think you're 95% there.

The missing 5%: I still don't think you've got the pubic hair right. She'd have something more artistic and challenging than a trapezoid, and it goes too high. She'd never be able to wear something low-riding without it showing, and we both know this woman wears low-slung shorts and pants. This might not be something that's easy to do, and ignore me if it's not.

I can't decide whether or not I think it's wise, but it might be interesting to see you continue those labial ringlets (which are excellent, by the way) all the way down. Also, are clitoral piercings not available?

An even more minor nitpick: she needs rings. (On her fingers, I mean.) Gnarly, biker/goth/punk/whatever rings. She wouldn't wear bracelets or necklaces or ankle jewelry — she'd have tattoos instead — but she would wear rings.

Nail polish, too. Probably to match her hair. Otherwise black. But I think I like the match better.
 

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This is better. I believe in the authenticity of this character model much more in this version than I did before, in which she looked overly fantastical and a little cartoony. This woman looks likes she's been through some shit, which is a solid visual characterization. She doesn't really tick off any of my personal boxes (save for her mostly impossible but standard-for-porn-games body), but that doesn't matter. I think you're 95% there.
Well I agree that tattoos and piercings and hair color like that isn't for every one. But that's what I like with creating a character. You make a first concept. Ask people on their opinion and change things. I am especially glad about the tattoos right now.

The missing 5%: I still don't think you've got the pubic hair right. She'd have something more artistic and challenging than a trapezoid, and it goes too high. She'd never be able to wear something low-riding without it showing, and we both know this woman wears low-slung shorts and pants. This might not be something that's easy to do, and ignore me if it's not.
Damn! You are so right. I didn't try any Bikinis or shorter clothing for her yet, so I obviously didn't see if it would be seen. I have to see what I can do with it, although I am more a fan of the more natural look, but I didn't though of the fact that it could stick out over the clothing :D

I can't decide whether or not I think it's wise, but it might be interesting to see you continue those labial ringlets (which are excellent, by the way) all the way down. Also, are clitoral piercings not available?
Actually there aren't any genital piercings available. The ones I used are for the nose and I just moved them down there, which was hazzle! But I like them. I was also thinking of adding more, but I am not sure if they would be in the way during sex :D But I most definitly want a clitoral one for her. I have to see what I can use for this. I will look at some examples to see what I like the most.

An even more minor nitpick: she needs rings. (On her fingers, I mean.) Gnarly, biker/goth/punk/whatever rings. She wouldn't wear bracelets or necklaces or ankle jewelry — she'd have tattoos instead — but she would wear rings.
And I agree again. She especially needs a BDSM themed one. What she might wear is a dog tag, because of her past, but not sure about that.

Nail polish, too. Probably to match her hair. Otherwise black. But I think I like the match better.
Yeah I didn't add any make-up at all and I don't think she needs make-up for the face. (maybe at some exceptions) But nail polish is definitly needed and I also think that either her hair color or the color of her piercings would fit the best.
 
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I am more a fan of the more natural look
And if that's your reason to leave it high, that's fine. But I just feel that this particular character wouldn't modify nearly every other part of her body but leave her bush free-roaming, even if it's only the top third. Personally, despite my general indifference to tattoos I'm a huge fan of women who tattoo extensively but leave their naughty bits uninked — I put one into the erotic novel I'm writing at the moment — and that's one of the many things I like about this character even though I don't find her attractive. It's more of a personality disagreement with her pubes (I know, I overthink these things). She wouldn't do everything she's done to her flesh but let her pubic hair keep crawling up her stomach in such a prosaic way. It's just not in this woman's makeup.

Actually there aren't any genital piercings available.
That's a drag, it's surprising, and I'm sorry. Great work on the labial rings, then...especially considering the work you had to put into them. As for extending them, they wouldn't be any more in the way during sex than the first few — or a clitoral piercing, or a tongue piercing — would be. They're not made of sandpaper. Actually, a tongue piercing is way more disruptive. Not, um, that I know.

What she might wear is a dog tag.
I like that idea, even while not knowing anything about her past. If it's a difficult memory, though, what about a dog tag ear piercing? You could even make it more aggressive than that and hand it off her eyebrow or lip or something. I'm personally repelled by the idea of it going elsewhere, but a necklace seems prosaic. It entirely depends on the nature of the memory. If it's sweet or nostalgic, definitely a necklace. If it's more problematic, maybe a more proportionally problematic body modification? I dunno. I'm really just free-associating here. Like I said, she's 95% of a complete character in terms of her visuals without knowing anything about who she actually is. I wouldn't get too crazy.

I didn't add any make-up at all and I don't think she needs make-up for the face.
Her features are plenty dramatic and she doesn't. Nails and toenails, though.
 

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nd if that's your reason to leave it high, that's fine. But I just feel that this particular character wouldn't modify nearly every other part of her body but leave her bush free-roaming, even if it's only the top third. Personally, despite my general indifference to tattoos I'm a huge fan of women who tattoo extensively but leave their naughty bits uninked — I put one into the erotic novel I'm writing at the moment — and that's one of the many things I like about this character even though I don't find her attractive. It's more of a personality disagreement with her pubes (I know, I overthink these things). She wouldn't do everything she's done to her flesh but let her pubic hair keep crawling up her stomach in such a prosaic way. It's just not in this woman's makeup.
Naah I agree, the pubes have to be modified. The longer I think about it the more it bugs me :D Tattoos on the breast and the ass are a no go for me. I really don't like it. I hope I can just modify them or I have to use others, but it shouldn't be too difficult.

That's a drag, it's surprising, and I'm sorry. Great work on the labial rings, then...especially considering the work you had to put into them. As for extending them, they wouldn't be any more in the way during sex than the first few — or a clitoral piercing, or a tongue piercing — would be. They're not made of sandpaper. Actually, a tongue piercing is way more disruptive. Not, um, that I know.
Well they aren't too big so I think it works and I might add some more rings. Also the clitoris piercings shouldn't be too much of a problem. (I even saw a Suicide Girls model have a piercing at the place between her pussy and her asshole)
She also has a tongue piercing, not that it is visible or anything :D

I like that idea, even while not knowing anything about her past. If it's a difficult memory, though, what about a dog tag ear piercing? You could even make it more aggressive than that and hand it off her eyebrow or lip or something. I'm personally repelled by the idea of it going elsewhere, but a necklace seems prosaic. It entirely depends on the nature of the memory. If it's sweet or nostalgic, definitely a necklace. If it's more problematic, maybe a more proportionally problematic body modification? I dunno. I'm really just free-associating here. Like I said, she's 95% of a complete character in terms of her visuals without knowing anything about who she actually is. I wouldn't get too crazy.
I think the dog tag could work as a single ear piercing on just one of the sides. But I am still on the fence if I even want to add one or not.
I could also add it as a tattoo I think. I was even thinking about adding some "beauty scars" or a branding. But that would've been a bit too much :D At some point you just have to stop adding stuff to a character, it just gets too much :D

Her features are plenty dramatic and she doesn't. Nails and toenails, though.
Yeah things to add:
nail and toenail polish, rings and maybe another ear piercing, clitoris piercing
Things to change:
pube style
 
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Tattoos on the breast and the ass are a no go for me. I really don't like it.
I agree. Leave the truly beautiful parts as they are.

Well they aren't too big so I think it works and I might add some more rings.
They're really fine as they are. I was just expressing the idea that since you've gone to the work it'd be interesting to see what they looked like taken to the extreme. You might decide that they're better as they are now, and i'd probably agree.

I even saw a Suicide Girls model have a piercing at the place between her pussy and her asshole
Oh, I've even seen anal piercings. The necessary several-times-daily cleanup does not seem worth it, but to each their own.

FWIW, women I've known with nipple bars and/or clitoral piercings all have one common reaction: the permanent exposure, as it were, means that stimulation is both constant and constantly unavoidable. Worth thinking about when you write text for the character.

But I am still on the fence if I even want to add [a dog tag] or not.
Again, without knowing her backstory I don't see this as a character who'd wear jewelry that's not attached, except for rings.

I was even thinking about adding some "beauty scars" or a branding.
Actually, in terms of BDSM/fetish content, the ability to brand someone would be seriously extreme but also seriously hot for people with that fetish. If you locate it cleverly enough (in other words, don't put it in the middle of one of her butt cheeks) you wouldn't even have to double-render very often. But no, not this woman. The freckled redhead, later in the game, maybe. Unless she's a switch, as some of your renders indicate. You need a true sub/slave for branding.
 
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I agree. Leave the truly beautiful parts as they are.
True true!

They're really fine as they are. I was just expressing the idea that since you've gone to the work it'd be interesting to see what they looked like taken to the extreme. You might decide that they're better as they are now, and i'd probably agree.
Dublicating them won't be a problem, but I could also use different rings to get a bit of variation.

Oh, I've even seen anal piercings. The necessary several-times-daily cleanup does not seem worth it, but to each their own.

FWIW, women I've known with nipple bars and/or clitoral piercings all have one common reaction: the permanent exposure, as it were, means that stimulation is both constant and constantly unavoidable. Worth thinking about when you write text for the character.
I bet it is a hazzle to clean. I mena it is one thing to see it in pictures an find it erotic, but real life is always another thing :D

Yeah I have to bring this in with the constant stimulation. But as she is a side character, I can limit to a minimum.

I think she will have a corset piercing for one of her photoshoots. I like the looks of them, but it obviously isn't something permanent.

Again, without knowing her backstory I don't see this as a character who'd wear jewelry that's not attached, except for rings.
Yeah I mean if she wasn't a dome a choker would actually fit her well.

Actually, in terms of BDSM/fetish content, the ability to brand someone would be seriously extreme but also seriously hot for people with that fetish. If you locate it cleverly enough (in other words, don't put it in the middle of one of her butt cheeks) you wouldn't even have to double-render very often. But no, not this woman. The freckled redhead, later in the game, maybe. Unless she's a switch, as some of your renders indicate. You need a true sub/slave for branding.
Well a tattoo or a branding can be a permanent mark for the sub, but it really is an extreme step. So I obviously will make it an optional thing, but it is something that would fit the theme, but it would be quite late in the game I think.