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thevoid089

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Bones went bad?... fuck i was looking forward to more updates for this game..
He's been like that since 2020 but it wasn't until now that he was so bad that most of peoples are so fed up, can't take his shit anymore and voiced out their displease
 

Acoroto

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I have been lurking a whole year in this thread and wanted to share my hot take on this.
I'm lazy as all hell to look for a post 2 pages before, but someone said that, the good ol' doc may suffer from bipolar disorder. As someone who has medical knowledge, I can safely say, that is unlikely.
However, several things happened in the heroes journey of Bones to evolve in the way he has. This is all, of course, IMO.

1.- Technician burnout. Bones is but a single man, it has been said before several times, this gives him complete control over his creation and vision. Creatively it is paradise... On the other hand, Creatively it is hell. As there is no ACTUAL deadline, no one to manage his time, no company to hold him accountable, Bones just does what he can apply, art. Wheter it is new or a rework is a whole other subject. I believe I saw a post of him quite long ago saying "coding is hard" and such and such... So programming is definitely not his strong suit nor his passion.

2.- Lack of consecuence. Closely tied to the first one.
If you had a product you are selling to a client, and set a strict deadline for it... and miss it several times, it should be obvious that said client is going to find someone else to get that product.
But as we can see, that has not happened here, actually in the few screenshots of the discord I saw the same mentality there, as the one you can see in "Star Citizen" forums. This will be continued in the next point.

3. A Pyrric victory, or, I'm in the denial stage of grief over how much money I've spent and no product is made.
Like in "Star Citizen" this is the mindset that drives most backes to continue support. When you have given so much, that giving up on an idea is the same as saying that you fucked up and threw your money away. (If someone has backed SC, please don't attack me, this is just my subjective analisis).

4.-Do the bare minimum. Not only does our body burn the most minimum amount of energy it can, so do we, mentally. If you have a job, You will most surely do the bare minimun to not get fired. There are exception of course, but this applies to the great majority. ESPECIALLY without supervision, PROPER supervision, not randoms like us, who have little impact on his finances.
If you, reading this, or me, were to be paid close to 5,000 dollars a month, for doing the minimun, of course you will get used to that life.
And if that lifestyle becomes you. And when someone either, theatens or criticizes that lifestyle, the response of said individual, will surely be a negative one.

I've seen this a lot of times, A LOT, nd with a lot of projects I kept my eye on like, Monster girl Island, Breeding season, etc.
It all starts with a lack of REAL management and accountability.
My key point. If you like a project but the person/s working on it has neither: A really really strong work ethic, or some way to be held accountable, (real accountability) hold on to your money.
It will, slowly degenerate, and like a member of a cult, you will ask yourself. "How the fuck did we get here?"

PS. My english is garbage, sorry for any mistake in advance
 

Banality

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I have been lurking a whole year in this thread and wanted to share my hot take on this.
I'm lazy as all hell to look for a post 2 pages before, but someone said that, the good ol' doc may suffer from bipolar disorder. As someone who has medical knowledge, I can safely say, that is unlikely.
However, several things happened in the heroes journey of Bones to evolve in the way he has. This is all, of course, IMO.

1.- Technician burnout. Bones is but a single man, it has been said before several times, this gives him complete control over his creation and vision. Creatively it is paradise... On the other hand, Creatively it is hell. As there is no ACTUAL deadline, no one to manage his time, no company to hold him accountable, Bones just does what he can apply, art. Wheter it is new or a rework is a whole other subject. I believe I saw a post of him quite long ago saying "coding is hard" and such and such... So programming is definitely not his strong suit nor his passion.

2.- Lack of consecuence. Closely tied to the first one.
If you had a product you are selling to a client, and set a strict deadline for it... and miss it several times, it should be obvious that said client is going to find someone else to get that product.
But as we can see, that has not happened here, actually in the few screenshots of the discord I saw the same mentality there, as the one you can see in "Star Citizen" forums. This will be continued in the next point.

3. A Pyrric victory, or, I'm in the denial stage of grief over how much money I've spent and no product is made.
Like in "Star Citizen" this is the mindset that drives most backes to continue support. When you have given so much, that giving up on an idea is the same as saying that you fucked up and threw your money away. (If someone has backed SC, please don't attack me, this is just my subjective analisis).

4.-Do the bare minimum. Not only does our body burn the most minimum amount of energy it can, so do we, mentally. If you have a job, You will most surely do the bare minimun to not get fired. There are exception of course, but this applies to the great majority. ESPECIALLY without supervision, PROPER supervision, not randoms like us, who have little impact on his finances.
If you, reading this, or me, were to be paid close to 5,000 dollars a month, for doing the minimun, of course you will get used to that life.
And if that lifestyle becomes you. And when someone either, theatens or criticizes that lifestyle, the response of said individual, will surely be a negative one.

I've seen this a lot of times, A LOT, nd with a lot of projects I kept my eye on like, Monster girl Island, Breeding season, etc.
It all starts with a lack of REAL management and accountability.
My key point. If you like a project but the person/s working on it has neither: A really really strong work ethic, or some way to be held accountable, (real accountability) hold on to your money.
It will, slowly degenerate, and like a member of a cult, you will ask yourself. "How the fuck did we get here?"

PS. My english is garbage, sorry for any mistake in advance
i made the BiPolar claim. If you look up the definition it at least has some matching points. But if you are an expert on this matter i'd like to see your take on his mental condition. I am really curious about that. Because to be real: there is nothing more left in terms of entertainment . Stay safe..... i guess i will unfollow this thead soon. to be honest having this thread plopping on again and again gives me a burn-out as well
 
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I have been lurking a whole year in this thread and wanted to share my hot take on this.
I'm lazy as all hell to look for a post 2 pages before, but someone said that, the good ol' doc may suffer from bipolar disorder. As someone who has medical knowledge, I can safely say, that is unlikely.
However, several things happened in the heroes journey of Bones to evolve in the way he has. This is all, of course, IMO.

1.- Technician burnout. Bones is but a single man, it has been said before several times, this gives him complete control over his creation and vision. Creatively it is paradise... On the other hand, Creatively it is hell. As there is no ACTUAL deadline, no one to manage his time, no company to hold him accountable, Bones just does what he can apply, art. Wheter it is new or a rework is a whole other subject. I believe I saw a post of him quite long ago saying "coding is hard" and such and such... So programming is definitely not his strong suit nor his passion.

2.- Lack of consecuence. Closely tied to the first one.
If you had a product you are selling to a client, and set a strict deadline for it... and miss it several times, it should be obvious that said client is going to find someone else to get that product.
But as we can see, that has not happened here, actually in the few screenshots of the discord I saw the same mentality there, as the one you can see in "Star Citizen" forums. This will be continued in the next point.

3. A Pyrric victory, or, I'm in the denial stage of grief over how much money I've spent and no product is made.
Like in "Star Citizen" this is the mindset that drives most backes to continue support. When you have given so much, that giving up on an idea is the same as saying that you fucked up and threw your money away. (If someone has backed SC, please don't attack me, this is just my subjective analisis).

4.-Do the bare minimum. Not only does our body burn the most minimum amount of energy it can, so do we, mentally. If you have a job, You will most surely do the bare minimun to not get fired. There are exception of course, but this applies to the great majority. ESPECIALLY without supervision, PROPER supervision, not randoms like us, who have little impact on his finances.
If you, reading this, or me, were to be paid close to 5,000 dollars a month, for doing the minimun, of course you will get used to that life.
And if that lifestyle becomes you. And when someone either, theatens or criticizes that lifestyle, the response of said individual, will surely be a negative one.

I've seen this a lot of times, A LOT, nd with a lot of projects I kept my eye on like, Monster girl Island, Breeding season, etc.
It all starts with a lack of REAL management and accountability.
My key point. If you like a project but the person/s working on it has neither: A really really strong work ethic, or some way to be held accountable, (real accountability) hold on to your money.
It will, slowly degenerate, and like a member of a cult, you will ask yourself. "How the fuck did we get here?"

PS. My english is garbage, sorry for any mistake in advance
this is probably the smartest thing that was said in this thread.... maybe even in the whole F95. Kind of remindes me of the coments from pornhub where dudes are explaining algebra and physics because someone said they need help with their homework.lol
 

Sorgath

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Gotta love this drama here. :LOL:

Stay away from this BS for few months :

come back and read about last 10 pages of forums
see nothing's changed :ROFLMAO:
Bones is still a scammer and cant still keep up his promises of dates or new content
ppl are still talking about same stuff thats been talked last 500+ pages"

Oh well was fun reading some again , cya in fall / winter , maybe we actually get some new content and no re-re-re-re-re-works as usual.

- Peace
 
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Fayrus

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I have been lurking a whole year in this thread and wanted to share my hot take on this.
I'm lazy as all hell to look for a post 2 pages before, but someone said that, the good ol' doc may suffer from bipolar disorder. As someone who has medical knowledge, I can safely say, that is unlikely.
However, several things happened in the heroes journey of Bones to evolve in the way he has. This is all, of course, IMO.

1.- Technician burnout. Bones is but a single man, it has been said before several times, this gives him complete control over his creation and vision. Creatively it is paradise... On the other hand, Creatively it is hell. As there is no ACTUAL deadline, no one to manage his time, no company to hold him accountable, Bones just does what he can apply, art. Wheter it is new or a rework is a whole other subject. I believe I saw a post of him quite long ago saying "coding is hard" and such and such... So programming is definitely not his strong suit nor his passion.

2.- Lack of consecuence. Closely tied to the first one.
If you had a product you are selling to a client, and set a strict deadline for it... and miss it several times, it should be obvious that said client is going to find someone else to get that product.
But as we can see, that has not happened here, actually in the few screenshots of the discord I saw the same mentality there, as the one you can see in "Star Citizen" forums. This will be continued in the next point.

3. A Pyrric victory, or, I'm in the denial stage of grief over how much money I've spent and no product is made.
Like in "Star Citizen" this is the mindset that drives most backes to continue support. When you have given so much, that giving up on an idea is the same as saying that you fucked up and threw your money away. (If someone has backed SC, please don't attack me, this is just my subjective analisis).

4.-Do the bare minimum. Not only does our body burn the most minimum amount of energy it can, so do we, mentally. If you have a job, You will most surely do the bare minimun to not get fired. There are exception of course, but this applies to the great majority. ESPECIALLY without supervision, PROPER supervision, not randoms like us, who have little impact on his finances.
If you, reading this, or me, were to be paid close to 5,000 dollars a month, for doing the minimun, of course you will get used to that life.
And if that lifestyle becomes you. And when someone either, theatens or criticizes that lifestyle, the response of said individual, will surely be a negative one.

I've seen this a lot of times, A LOT, nd with a lot of projects I kept my eye on like, Monster girl Island, Breeding season, etc.
It all starts with a lack of REAL management and accountability.
My key point. If you like a project but the person/s working on it has neither: A really really strong work ethic, or some way to be held accountable, (real accountability) hold on to your money.
It will, slowly degenerate, and like a member of a cult, you will ask yourself. "How the fuck did we get here?"

PS. My english is garbage, sorry for any mistake in advance
I disagree.
All people are not the same, no matter the situations. We are all different, and so, react differently. In an accident some ppl freeze, others act, others do both. The same happens with corruption. Some sucumb easily, others take time, others in between, there are ppl who can't get corrupted, those get a bullet in the head, or fade into oblivion.

Your three first points make him look like a "victim" or a subproduct of something else, and not the responsible of his own accions. I agree in part with your last point and pharagraph.

He is just a douchebag.
 

devilxxx

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i made the BiPolar claim. If you look up the definition it at least has some matching points. But if you are an expert on this matter i'd like to see your take on his mental condition. I am really curious about that. Because to be real: there is nothing more left in terms of entertainment . Stay safe..... i guess i will unfollow this thead soon. to be honest having this thread plopping on again and again gives me a burn-out as well
I can feel you, but stopping right now would be a failure. The numbers are dropping, that means people start to wake up and we should keep waking them up
 
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Redleg

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The best way for accountability is for the people who are subscribed to him on subscribestar and patreon to unsubscribe. They want to get the release first and not have to wait the half day or day for it to be pirated when it is released, but on the flipside they are enabling him to release his product whenever he feels like it because they are paying him in anticipation instead of paying him for a product.

He can play that game all day. And he's playing that game straight to the bank. Again the conversion rate is 42 uruguay to 1 usd. Do that math. He's making hella money.

They don't realize that they could actually hurry him along by not paying him. He's not going to make the money he's making now where he lives doing anything BUT this and that is because he is getting paid by the conversation of usd to whatever the hell Uruguay's currency is called. Its not that Uruguay doesn't have what would be high paying jobs in other countries, its that they don't get paid for them like the US would.

It's the same with almost all creators, even the ones that don't produce are sustaining themselves with basically charity from the true believers of their fanbase in the hopes that one day they might release something.

His subscribestar would have to drop drastically for him to take it seriously, because he could still be living comfortably for a while. From there he would either get mad and quit, or he would hurry the f up. At least you'd know one way or the other.

But since again, he can't make that kind of money down there doing anything but this, I suspect he would hurry up with the releases.

This man is basically living a millionaires life right now. 3885 x 12 months=46620 usd a year, times 46620 x 42= 1,958,040 Uruguay pesos. That would be approximate and who knows about taxes and what things would cost (maybe services and what not would be more expensive, and I don't know how cuts with patreon and subscribestar work) but even if you knock off a couple of hundred thousand off, that is still ridiculous money per year he's accruing. The goals he's shooting for in his subscribestar people think are tongue and cheek? Not so sure.
 
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thevoid089

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The best way for accountability is for the people who are subscribed to him on subscribestar and patreon to unsubscribe. They want to get the release first and not have to wait the half day or day for it to be pirated when it is released, but on the flipside they are enabling him to release his product whenever he feels like it because they are paying him in anticipation instead of paying him for a product.

He can play that game all day. And he's playing that game straight to the bank. Again the conversion rate is 42 uruguay to 1 usd. Do that math. He's making hella money.

They don't realize that they could actually hurry him along by not paying him. He's not going to make the money he's making now where he lives doing anything BUT this and that is because he is getting paid by the conversation of usd to whatever the hell Uruguay's currency is called. Its not that Uruguay doesn't have what would be high paying jobs in other countries, its that they don't get paid for them like the US would.

It's the same with almost all creators, even the ones that don't produce are sustaining themselves with basically charity from the true believers of their fanbase in the hopes that one day they might release something.

His subscribestar would have to drop drastically for him to take it seriously, because he could still be living comfortably for a while. From there he would either get mad and quit, or he would hurry the f up. At least you'd know one way or the other.

But since again, he can't make that kind of money down there doing anything but this, I suspect he would hurry up with the releases.

This man is basically living a millionaires life right now. 3885 x 12 months=46620 usd a year, times 46620 x 42= 1,958,040. That would be approximate and who knows about taxes and what things would cost (maybe services and what not would be more expensive, and I don't know how cuts with patreon and subscribestar work) but even if you knock off a couple of hundred thousand off, that is still ridiculous money per year he's accruing. The goals he's shooting for in his subscribestar people think are tongue and cheek? Not so sure.
And don't forget he got more than 1200usd/month on his Patreon for Survivor Guilt too, so he got lot of money from cultists for doing absolutely nothing . Honestly to say I wonder if those supporters even have any common sense in their brain, gave him that large amounts of money in exchange for trash updates and still defending him like he is a victim. I really wish they stop rewarding a scammer with toxic behavior like that, it set bad images and make many decent game developers lose faith and make many wanting to become like him or other scammers
 

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Imagine paying real money just to take part in a meme no one's laughing at.

Also Long = Good, lol
Shitty piece of shit with shitty sense of humor, really fit as Bones's style of ass kissers. Not doubt he got a cut from that handsomely money that scammer got for free monthly to even compare those games without any shame. The difference is that those 2 games at least are masterpiece and completed the moment it got release unlike this one
 

Banality

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Imagine paying real money just to take part in a meme no one's laughing at.

Also Long = Good, lol
Best thing this guy could do is leaving Bones discord and shutting down his internet... this way he could wait the rest of his life and maybe die of a overdose happyness. Extra Plus: he wouldn't get on the nerves of others.....
 

Fayrus

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Best thing this guy could do is leaving Bones discord and shutting down his internet... this way he could wait the rest of his life and maybe die of a overdose happyness. Extra Plus: he wouldn't get on the nerves of others.....
So true hahah.
 
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Banality

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Oh wow, what's this? Talk about ignoring the thread but still adding fuel to fire. Better stop it before we come to douse it with our cum bucket. In the mean time, gonna put this thread in our watch list
MEAN time.... nice ;) btw... i said i will do it in the future... not now ;) And thanks to you i reversed my opinion. A Mod taking part adds a special flavour to it. I hope someone screenshots this :D
 
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