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Oseo Bones

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To each their own, I guess. Different strokes for different folks.

Don't take it as an insult or anything but you're one of the few people I've met in here that wants the good stuff right away haha most people in here (not the thread but the forum in general) despise having that type of game where you just walk and get everything (figuratively speaking), most want to work a bit for it. But no hate towards you, man. You do you :D
That's why god invented visual novels and straight up porn videos. ;)
 

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That's why god invented visual novels and straight up porn videos. ;)
I know haha most VN's you just hold Ctrl or any key binded to the Skip fuction, click a few decisions and you unlock like 80% of the CG gallery xD but I can't blame him, there's a bunch of games that have insane hoops to jump through and little-to-no reward so probably a PTSD of sorts for some people, hence why they don't engage in more fleshed-out games.

Again, not hating or anything as I myself enjoy a "walk to a character and just fuck them" game from time to time cough cough Stopping!! cough cough World were you fuck plain NPCs cough cough
 

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To each their own, I guess. Different strokes for different folks.

Don't take it as an insult or anything but you're one of the few people I've met in here that wants the good stuff right away haha most people in here (not the thread but the forum in general) despise having that type of game where you just walk and get everything (figuratively speaking), most want to work a bit for it. But no hate towards you, man. You do you :D
Don't get me wrong I'll play this game when it's done but not using a walkthrough. With an incomplete game I don't feel like devoting a lot of time in solving puzzles that I can't even be sure are finished. I want to PLAY the game not just follow instructions, by that point I just do extra steps to just get to the same result, the fap scenes. Following the steps in a walkhtrough is not playing the game imo but if it is for you, as you said, you do you.
 

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Don't get me wrong I'll play this game when it's done but not using a walkthrough. With an incomplete game I don't feel like devoting a lot of time in solving puzzles that I can't even be sure are finished. I want to PLAY the game not just follow instructions, by that point I just do extra steps to just get to the same result, the fap scenes. Following the steps in a walkhtrough is not playing the game imo but if it is for you, as you said, you do you.
But the guide is for (or if, rather) you get stuck. I played the game when it was on v0.10 and never really needed the guide besides unlocking some outfits for variations (which in retrospective the process was kinda obvious). So far the only "roadblocks" are certain scenes not yet implemented (Daughter & Mom Morning session, Blonde haired sister interactions, etc) which aren't really that important as there's plenty of stuff already available. However I'll give it to you in this case cause the Doc has mentioned that for the next update (v0.15) we'll most certainly need to make a new file from scratch, so there's that.

However I'd recommend for you to still give it a chance so you can get familiarized with the mechanics and whatnot, cause even if you cheat the levels of the characters, there's a progression to be done to unlock more stuff.
 

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Don't get me wrong I'll play this game when it's done but not using a walkthrough. With an incomplete game I don't feel like devoting a lot of time in solving puzzles that I can't even be sure are finished. I want to PLAY the game not just follow instructions, by that point I just do extra steps to just get to the same result, the fap scenes. Following the steps in a walkhtrough is not playing the game imo but if it is for you, as you said, you do you.
You don't need a walkthrough to play this game, you just need to play the game. It is a simple exploration and interaction game. There is no puzzles, no battles, nothing you can't get alone (or using Doyle as a helper). People made the WT for other people that gets stucked a lot. The game being unfinished doesn't make a player get stuck, it only means you won't get scenes that are not implemented, and the game tells you that. The only "hard" part about the game is the rising of attributes (that I made easier by adding the "spend the day" feature).

But overall, if a player don't like to explore a fairly small map (for an RPG), then they won't like this game. Regardless, this is not a VN, so you won't get anything simply by talking.

But, just do what I do, If a try a new game and I don't like how it plays in the first 10 minutes, I just close it and try another game, because that means I am not the kind of player this game was made for.
 

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You don't need a walkthrough to play this game, you just need to play the game. It is a simple exploration and interaction game. There is no puzzles, no battles, nothing you can't get alone (or using Doyle as a helper). People made the WT for other people that gets stucked a lot. The game being unfinished doesn't make a player get stuck, it only means you won't get scenes that are not implemented, and the game tells you that. The only "hard" part about the game is the rising of attributes (that I made easier by adding the "spend the day" feature).

But overall, if a player don't like to explore a fairly small map (for an RPG), then they won't like this game. Regardless, this is not a VN, so you won't get anything simply by talking.

But, just do what I do, If a try a new game and I don't like how it plays in the first 10 minutes, I just close it and try another game, because that means I am not the kind of player this game was made for.
A salesman randomly appearing at your gate at a certain time of day requires a lot of time or luck to find with no walkhtrough and no in-game clue. Time I can't devote to an unfinished game and luck I can't rely on.
 

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A salesman randomly appearing at your gate at a certain time of day requires a lot of time or luck to find with no walkhtrough and no in-game clue. Time I can't devote to an unfinished game and luck I can't rely on.
You find about that playing the game cause Doyle (the ghost) literally tells you she is available at first hour in the morning...

The only "luck" related event I know of is the Lucile (the cluesless girl) event where she often goes downstairs and into the room next to the kitchen cause I never paid attention when she started doing it.
 

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A salesman randomly appearing at your gate at a certain time of day requires a lot of time or luck to find with no walkhtrough and no in-game clue. Time I can't devote to an unfinished game and luck I can't rely on.
If an NPC appear at a CERTAIN TIME OF DAY EVERYDAY AT A CERTAIN PLACE, it is clearly not a random thing, radom will be if she appears at different times in different places.

Everything in the game can be found by exploring. But again, if you don't like exploring then this game is not for you. Is ok, as I said, there are lot of different games for all types of players, you just need the one that suits your preferences.

EDIT: I clearly don't like the word "random" when it comes to describe this game... nothing is random, everything is triggered by certain parameters. There are (right now) only two events that have a "random approach" and it is not fully random, you just have a 1/3 chances of triggering those (Marthabed BJ and Vera Evening BJ).

If you feel things are "random" you are just not paying attention, which means, again, this game is not for you. I can't posibly make a game that pleases ALL players, so I just aim to make a game that would pleases me.
 
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He never told me, probably have to do some other random thing to say it.
Since you have to explore a fairly small map, it's easy to find out how. Just visit the Mom at midnight, she'll be half-asleep and the protagonist would mention about her having light sleep. If you search her wardrobe during the afternoon you'll find some pills that give the protagonist an idea. When you try to get Doyle's ring he'll mention about the merchant.

Sounds like a lot, but really you discover that just playing and exploring. Unless you've never played any other game made with RPGMaker (most of them being long-ass RPGs) I can understand why you see it as randomness to the max.
 

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If an NPC appear at a CERTAIN TIME OF DAY EVERYDAY AT A CERTAIN PLACE, it is clearly not a random thing, radom will be if she appears at different times in different places.

Everything in the game can be found by exploring. But again, if you don't like exploring then this game is not for you. Is ok, as I said, there are lot of different games for all types of players, you just need the one that suits your preferences.
It's random if you didn't know it's there. Like quantum physics.
This is an adventure game and these need strong direction I can't expect that from an unfinished game so I didn't really complain about that but just as an advice give the player objectives so they have a goal and make the house easier to navigate.
 

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Since you have to explore a fairly small map, it's easy to find out how. Just visit the Mom at midnight, she'll be half-asleep and the protagonist would mention about her having light sleep. If you search her wardrobe during the afternoon you'll find some pills that give the protagonist an idea. When you try to get Doyle's ring he'll mention about the merchant.

Sounds like a lot, but really you discover that just playing and exploring. Unless you've never played any other game made with RPGMaker (most of them being long-ass RPGs) I can understand why you see it as randomness to the max.
Now that you mention it I forget it pissed me off that I could only get certain results from checking her wardrobe at different times, not to mention that I have to check with or without the spirit assisting me. Ain't nobody got time for that. Give me hints so I know when to do and at what time, direction is a thing in game design.
 

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Now that you mention it I forget it pissed me off that I could only get certain results from checking her wardrobe at different times, not to mention that I have to check with or without the spirit assisting me. Ain't nobody got time for that. Give me hints so I know when to do and at what time, direction is a thing in game design.
That's why you just play the game, then haha You obviously learn from hints but you also learn from just playing. If it was a puzzle game with very intricate rules and those weren't disclosed then yeah, I'll get your point but it's not particularly that hard to figure stuff out.

For example, you find about a possible scene if you spy on the Mom while she's bathing. If Doyle (the ghost) is tagging along, he'll give a comment hinting at something. If not, the game shows you a menu prompt to focus on her Boobs, her Ass or Continue. You try that one and he mentions that it's locked, so you need a key. Then you explore trying to find it OR if you have Doyle, he'll mention about knowing where that is. Yeah, I used a lot of words so looks complicated but it's really simple once you get it. If you wanna progress, you can talk with the characters, check whether or not those interactions seem to have further ramifications (usually a red prompt says "X doesn't trust you" if you're underleveled), that's when you "level" up.

Again, key word is progression. As I mentioned before, if you cheat the levels you won't unlock much stuff cause the characters get corrupted little by little, they don't just jump to the character's cock out of nowhere.
 

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That's why you just play the game, then haha You obviously learn from hints but you also learn from just playing. If it was a puzzle game with very intricate rules and those weren't disclosed then yeah, I'll get your point but it's not particularly that hard to figure stuff out.

For example, you find about a possible scene if you spy on the Mom while she's bathing. If Doyle (the ghost) is tagging along, he'll give a comment hinting at something. If not, the game shows you a menu prompt to focus on her Boobs, her Ass or Continue. You try that one and he mentions that it's locked, so you need a key. Then you explore trying to find it OR if you have Doyle, he'll mention about knowing where that is. Yeah, I used a lot of words so looks complicated but it's really simple once you get it. If you wanna progress, you can talk with the characters, check whether or not those interactions seem to have further ramifications (usually a red prompt says "X doesn't trust you" if you're underleveled), that's when you "level" up.

Again, key word is progression. As I mentioned before, if you cheat the levels you won't unlock much stuff cause the characters get corrupted little by little, they don't just jump to the character's cock out of nowhere.
Yeah I found that, I did a lot of the mom stuff after I found a glitch when you can max her guilt really fast. It's when she says she doesn't have clothes to do yoga with you.(btw why do every mom has to do yoga in these games?)

As I said when the game is finished or at least close to complete I will do all that trial and error to find scenes but now I have plenty of other games to play, Lust Epidemic for example.

One thing I would like changed in this game if possible is to automatically enter a door without pressing confirm button I really hate how it slows things down for such a simple thing.
 
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Yeah I found that, I did a lot of the mom stuff after I found a glitch when you can max her guilt really fast. It's when she says she doesn't have clothes to do yoga with you.(btw why do every mom has to do yoga in these games?)

As I said when the game is finished or at least close to complete I will do all that trial and error to find scenes but now I have plenty of other games to play, Lust Epidemic for example.

One thing I would like changed in this game if possible is to automatically enter a door without pressing confirm button I really hate how it slows things down for such a simple thing.
I think it's just cliché stuff just because. I mean, how many games DON'T have a 40+ mom looking like a 25 year old bimbo? Or grandma's rocking K-Cup breasts and only recognized as grandmas cause they have a few wrinkles and grey hair? xD

I getcha buddy and godspeed to you. There's plenty of stuff to play and the backlog just keeps getting thicker everyday :c
 
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It's random if you didn't know it's there. Like quantum physics.
Actually, no and no.
This is an adventure game and these need strong direction
Wrong again. You are the one needing strong direction in the game, not all players. I personally don't understand why people spend time playing a game where all the challenging elements a game should have are removed.
 

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i can't believe I actually waiting for an update as impatient as this in anything I've waited in my whole life. like I keep going back in and out of my internet browser every 15 minutes. That just shows how deeply impressive this game is.
 
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Actually, no and no.

Wrong again. You are the one needing strong direction in the game, not all players. I personally don't understand why people spend time playing a game where all the challenging elements a game should have are removed.
Like you D-Two, I don't understand the time spent trying to coax a person who given links and verbal directions to documents that hold your hand through the entire game and still fights saying reading is TOO difficult. To such people I can offer this advice, the internet is full of Rule 34, search engines are our friend....ENJOY!!

READ the Walkthrough to learn basics and quick start the game, READ the Change Logs and use them as a road map to navigate the scenes of the game in order, consult the Guide to get excellent pointers on how to solve things / scenes as you encounter them. It really isn't that hard. Of course like TrialRagnarok, I have been around since early days, and I didn't discover this forum until Ver.03. As for the game being unfinished, that just means more goodness to come in the future.

Cheers!!
 
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