RPGM Abandoned Bones' Tales: The Manor [v0.20.0a] [Dr Bones]

[PaYrO212]

Welp, couldn't find a fix to it, tried to have Doyle (which is required when you first unlock the attic) at different times of the day, no luck, but it still puzzles me why go through the motions of unlocking the attic and not check the chest the first time you enter xD my guess is that there's a "hitbox" that allows you to interact with it when first entering (I mean, that's the whole objective of unlocking the attic) but after you exit the area, that hitbox disappears, rendering the chest useless as there's no way to open it. Granted this is just what I THINK it's happening, not what IS happening.

On a side note, something rubs me the wrong way... the pills are still in your inventory but you already switched them with the protein ones in Martha's drawer... not sure what happened there.

So, you started on 0.17.3 or ported a save from 0.17 to 0.17.3? Sorry for repeating the question but it really is important, any save from an older version than 0.17.3 has bugs regardless.

I started the new game in the 0.17.1 and then I ported to the 0.17.3, but I already have that problem in ther 0.17.1 so that's why I went to the 0.17.3 if it fix it but nop.

 

[TrialRagnarok]

I started the new game in the 0.17.1 and then I ported to the 0.17.3, but I already have that problem in ther 0.17.1 so that's why I went to the 0.17.3 if it fix it but nop.

ANY save ported to the latest version is whack, the bugs remain in the savefile even if you're playing them in the latest version so in short, that save is useless.

As to not needing to do it all over again, grab one from page 847, they're near the bottom.

 

[PaYrO212]

ANY save ported to the latest version is whack, the bugs remain in the savefile even if you're playing them in the latest version so in short, that save is useless.

As to not needing to do it all over again, grab one from page 847, they're near the bottom.

Oka, Thanks. But like I said, this problem starts for me in the 0.17.1 when I started a new game

 

[TrialRagnarok]

Oka, Thanks. But like I said, this problem starts for me in the 0.17.1 when I started a new game

I repeat, ANY savefile ported to 0.17.3 (as in, from a previous version to the latest) is whack, meaning it's bugged already.

TL;DR that save doesn't work.

 

[Oseo Bones]

Oka, Thanks. But like I said, this problem starts for me in the 0.17.1 when I started a new game

I fixed the save for you.
Doyle's ring is in the inventory (And fixed a variable that caused the issue in the file)

EDIT: That bug is present even in 0.17.2... it happens when you do things out of order... But it doesn't happen in 0.17.3, even if you do things out of order.
In short... What Trial said... "Saves from 0.17.2 and older are whack, yo!" (I'm paraphrasing).

 

[PaYrO212]

I fixed the save for you.
Doyle's ring is in the inventory (And fixed a variable that caused the issue in the file)

EDIT: That bug is present even in 0.17.2... it happens when you do thing out of order... But it doesn't happen in 0.17.3, even if you do thing out of order.
In short... What Trial said... "Saves from 0.17.2 and older are whack, yo!" (I'm paraphrasing).

Well thank you

 

[georgenavy11]

I don't blame people for being anxious. People being impatient for an update means the game is kinda good and sorta addictive, which means I'm doing something good. But there are different types of impatient people: Those who ask "when?" from the innocence of their hearts (Which I appreciate, even if it gets tiresome after a few dozens times); and then there are the ones that get easilly annoyed with their own impatience and try to be "clever" by posting passive-agressive stuff to make themselves be known in their "rage". This last ones get a passive-agressive response, If I'm in the mood...

Either way, there are worse people around... those who are a little more explosive and decide to report me and send death threats to my inbox. But hey!, I'm still alive!.

In a serious note, I'm still working, even if the game is demonitized and I'm losing money everyday... Hopefully there are still people supporting me economically (and I know some of you are in that group). And when the new game has its demo, I hope I can gather a few more donators, and then, I will try to get some paid help to work on ths projects and the future ones.

As I said before, I'm in a rough patch right now, But I'm aiming to get my affairs in order soon. So I can make all the games I have planned.

Kinda Good ? The game is AMAZING
And good doctor, you are literally the HEAD of "Medicine" at this point since I love your game although I dont know what comes next after the Manor...

 

[georgenavy11]

I fixed the save for you.
Doyle's ring is in the inventory (And fixed a variable that caused the issue in the file)

EDIT: That bug is present even in 0.17.2... it happens when you do things out of order... But it doesn't happen in 0.17.3, even if you do things out of order.
In short... What Trial said... "Saves from 0.17.2 and older are whack, yo!" (I'm paraphrasing).

Love you !!! (no homo)

 

[PePeTheCoCk]

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In a serious note... The thing here is the same old issue of people having little to no patience when it comes to porn games... people want the quick reward and most time don't even care about content quality. Also, those same people often forget about what it means for a project to be STILL IN DEVELOPMENT... This is not a finished game and the updates are not "chapters".

Chapter's aren't the main concern.
H games doesn't have to have the most amazing engine, animation, physics, storytelling, multiplayer etc.
WEG's are simple little games that's also the beauty of it.
That's why its incomprehensible that it takes so long for so little.
And I'm not just talking about BTTM more about the transformation of the entire h game community.
Few years ago (you remember for sure) it was common to get monthly updates suddenly it's only two or three a year.
Many erotic game devs are dawdling now.
(thanks to individuals like icstor, gumdrop, mrzz, nergal, whootch, etc.)
The monthly subscription system promotes that behaviour, i give you that.
If they were to be paid per build instead, it would be a completely different story.

And yes, there are several reasons why devs make reworks: Artist change, Method changes, mechanic changes, etc.
But the main one is quality improvement.

Unfortunately, you didn't mention one point:
Remakes justify devs to work at a slower pace, without having to think of anything new to do, and still be able to say they’re doing something for patrons’ sake.

It’s basically just creating work for themselves so they don’t have to be creative anymore.

Usually when remaking scenes they’re only a little bit better, or even a little worse (amity park), and it would almost always be better for the fans to just get new content.

I can't speak for everyone... but if a "fan" is upset with a dev/artist trying to make his/her project look pretty then he is not really a fan...

That's not the point.
It's about the amount of content, of course it can look better, but half a year for a few new scenes is disproportionate.

he just want the fap and move on. And I get it, it is in fact a porn game...

Exactly what I mean, most people take a quick look into the new content and that's it.

But there is a reason why I decided to make an RPG instead of a VN, and why I decided to improve the art, code and overall game mechanic... and the reason is that I want to be proud of my work and make it pretty and entertaining as possible (under my own expectations, nor other people) and not just make a "profitable" product. I know it sound pretentious as heck... But I'm not in this line of work to become rich, If I were, I'd follow the "Summertime saga" formula and get loaded.

But that means even more that you then have to draw less than someone who uses Renpy or am i misunderstanding something, if so enlighten me?
Darkcookie is also dawdling, but at least he updates SS 4 times a year, streams daily & interact with his fans.
And he's doing work that you don't have to do because he doesn't use RPG (such as drawing hundreds of backgrounds).
This game came out one and a half year after SS but Summertime Sage has several times more content than this game (and that although he is already taking his time).
And yes, sorry, but you have to be prepared for the fact that you will be compared with other 2d h game devs from this industry or do you find it strange that Messi is compared with Ronaldo.

With that said, I guess you'll understand that I really don't care about what DC or other devs say is or isn't a good idea... because... "I do what I want.." and if a "fan" don't like my way of doing things... well.. there are a lot of other devs and games to follow. And lots of them are willing to bend under the "fans" pressure.

Seeing recommendations as submission is foolish
Fans don't force you to anything they only express ideas, unlike the state
This saying: "I do what i want" is an empty statement there is no such thing in practice.
The state says to you: "put on the damn mask" you obey, if the government tells you keep your distance, pay cashless, let yourself be monitored, get multiple vaccinations, stay home, you go along with everything, even if its against your will, this in fact, is bending.
Unless you're a practicing anarchist, live in a forest & are self-sufficient, what i highly doubt.

Now you will probably say "yeah but of course it wasn't meant that way re re re"

If someone is tired of my reworks, I suggest to forget about me and my project for a while and play it when the game is finished.

The recommendations of others are irrelevant to you, so why should one listen to yours?

Ps. Would be nice if you would stream more often it was fun to watch you draw.

 

[Kudram]

The recommendations of others are irrelevant to you, so why should one listen to yours?

The one difference, and why the Doc is actually relevant... is that he is actually making this game. Everyone else is just a bystander and completely pointless in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Frag35]

Hey guys, great game. But I seem to be stuck, not sure if I missed something or if this has been mentioned before. I'm stuck at the point where I try to leave the house at night in the rain but can't cause I might get wet even though I have on a rain coat. But it also won't let me back into the house cause I need to investigate that mysterious lady that hopped the fence.

 

[LOGhetto]

The one difference, and why the Doc is actually relevant... is that he is actually making this game. Everyone else is just a bystander and completely pointless in the grand scheme of things.

That's only true if you're not asking for money during the process. People expect results, they deserve results. Why? Because you think you deserve money now, so because of that, your sense of responsibility and following through instead of jerking around should be at it's peak.

Work Ethic isn't just something tied to labor work. It keeps you honest, it means you actually value the opportunity you have to either do what you love or do what you need to get paid. Being a creative doesn't give you a get of jail free card, especially when you expect to be paid for your creative endeavors. You have a responsibility to the people who decided to invest in you. You think you don't have a boss? You do, and you asked for them when you decided you wanted to be paid. Unless the trust of your customers means absolutely dick to you.

It's not even a "Customer is always right" mindset either. It's having the morality and self responsibility to know that you can't be satisfied with half-assed measures and efforts when doing anything for other people. Especially when they're paying you.

The moment you ask for money, you can't play the victim anymore. You asked for this. So do it.

 

[TrialRagnarok]

Hey guys, great game. But I seem to be stuck, not sure if I missed something or if this has been mentioned before. I'm stuck at the point where I try to leave the house at night in the rain but can't cause I might get wet even though I have on a rain coat. But it also won't let me back into the house cause I need to investigate that mysterious lady that hopped the fence.

What version are you playing? If it's anything below 0.17.3, then it's a bug from previous versions. Your best bet would be to move your save to the newest version and if it keeps happening, then the save is whack. If that's the case, you can grab one from the bottom of page 847.

 

[Oseo Bones]

Chapter's aren't the main concern.
H games doesn't have to have the most amazing engine, animation, physics, storytelling, multiplayer etc.
WEG's are simple little games that's also the beauty of it.
That's why its incomprehensible that it takes so long for so little.
And I'm not just talking about BTTM more about the transformation of the entire h game community.
Few years ago (you remember for sure) it was common to get monthly updates suddenly it's only two or three a year.
Many erotic game devs are dawdling now.
(thanks to individuals like icstor, gumdrop, mrzz, nergal, whootch, etc.)
The monthly subscription system promotes that behaviour, i give you that.
If they were to be paid per build instead, it would be a completely different story.

The fact that something "doesn't have to be amazing" doesn't mean that it couldn't. Boxing developers into a mediocre level of quality is what gives us games that don't deserve more than one play-through... or even a complete one.

And saying "so long for so little" only shows that some people only want "section" of the game, and when that section doesn't have new content, they riot. (And that's what happened with people who don't like Mia... for them, the last update was "empty").

And yes... The monthly subscription method is a double edged sword. For one, it gives devs, artists, etc the opportunity to actually spend time on their work without the limitations of deadlines or having to release unoriginal but profitable works to make end's meat. And on the other hand, a lot of devs abuse the system and prolong the development process to fill their wallets.... But I think the difference shows in the end result. If people is willing to support a dev, and their work actually shows some quality, I think it is money well spent (And I'm saying this not as a dev but a supporter... I'm actually a patron and subscriber to a lot of devs).

Unfortunately, you didn't mention one point:
Remakes justify devs to work at a slower pace, without having to think of anything new to do, and still be able to say they’re doing something for patrons’ sake.

It’s basically just creating work for themselves so they don’t have to be creative anymore.

Usually when remaking scenes they’re only a little bit better, or even a little worse (amity park), and it would almost always be better for the fans to just get new content.

As I said before, I can't speak for other devs. But if I rework something is because I think it is necesary... maybe it is not for most players... but it is for me, the guy making the game. Also, in my case it is false to say that an update is "only reworks" when I actually add lots of variations and even new scenes to the reworked event. I don't just "paint it again" and call it a rework.

And I'm actually confident enough to say that my art improved a lot since I first started and to the point where, keeping the old art with the new one is just unpleasing to the eyes... and again, for me. I know a lot of players just want the easy reward and move on. But I like to think that they are not me target audience.

That's not the point.
It's about the amount of content, of course it can look better, but half a year for a few new scenes is disproportionate.

It certainly is a lot, in a perfect world...

Exactly what I mean, most people take a quick look into the new content and that's it.

As I said... They are not my target audience... Just an unavoidable misfortune.

But that means even more that you then have to draw less than someone who uses Renpy or am i misunderstanding something, if so enlighten me?

Darkcookie is also dawdling, but at least he updates SS 4 times a year, streams daily & interact with his fans.
And he's doing work that you don't have to do because he doesn't use RPG (such as drawing hundreds of backgrounds).
This game came out one and a half year after SS but Summertime Sage has several times more content than this game (and that although he is already taking his time).
And yes, sorry, but you have to be prepared for the fact that you will be compared with other 2d h game devs from this industry or do you find it strange that Messi is compared with Ronaldo.

When I said I prefer RPGM instead of Ren'py I wasn't talking about the amount of work, but the type of gameplay. RPG is more "immersive" and interactive. While most renpy games are just a "skip-text-galore". And yes, some ren'py games have clickable maps and interactive objects but the "feel" is not the same. So I prefer to make an RPG because like the "feel" of actually playing a game and not reading a novel with pictures. (meaning that I decided to make something that I like instead of something that would sell).

And I also resent the comparison with a Developer GROUP of at least 5 people who earns 65K a month (Last time I checked, which was years ago). I still consider myself a small time indie solo dev.
Using you football allegory: Is like pretending that that kid who likes to do tricks with a ball at the playground, to be the same or better than Messi (who earns millions to kick a ball into a net).

Seeing recommendations as submission is foolish
Fans don't force you to anything they only express ideas, unlike the state
This saying: "I do what i want" is an empty statement there is no such thing in practice.
The state says to you: "put on the damn mask" you obey, if the government tells you keep your distance, pay cashless, let yourself be monitored, get multiple vaccinations, stay home, you go along with everything, even if its against your will, this in fact, is bending.
Unless you're a practicing anarchist, live in a forest & are self-sufficient, what i highly doubt.

Now you will probably say "yeah but of course it wasn't meant that way re re re"

Uhm... I actually do what I want when it comes to making porn games... That's what we were talking about... porn games... Right? I don't know what the government has to do with all of this... Are you one of those anti-maskers or something? chill.

The recommendations of others are irrelevant to you, so why should one listen to yours?

Ps. Would be nice if you would stream more often it was fun to watch you draw.

The "You should work faster, and even more than before!!!" is not a recommendation, it's a demand.
And I never recommended anything about this. I was just stating what I do. And even if I did recommend something. You can always ignore me...But there is an undeniable fact when it comes to this particular topic: I'm the guy making this game... So in the end the only thing that matters is what I want or don't want to do.

That's only true if you're not asking for money during the process. People expect results, they deserve results. Why? Because you think you deserve money now, so because of that, your sense of responsibility and following through instead of jerking around should be at it's peak.

Work Ethic isn't just something tied to labor work. It keeps you honest, it means you actually value the opportunity you have to either do what you love or do what you need to get paid. Being a creative doesn't give you a get of jail free card, especially when you expect to be paid for your creative endeavors. You have a responsibility to the people who decided to invest in you. You think you don't have a boss? You do, and you asked for them when you decided you wanted to be paid. Unless the trust of your customers means absolutely dick to you.

It's not even a "Customer is always right" mindset either. It's having the morality and self responsibility to know that you can't be satisfied with half-assed measures and efforts when doing anything for other people. Especially when they're paying you.

The moment you ask for money, you can't play the victim anymore. You asked for this. So do it.

The flaw in this logic is that I'm not "asking for money", I'm accepting money.
My work is ultimately free and everyone can play it without having to pay a dime. And I don't even have content behind paywalls.

It always bothers me when people don't understand the "donations/tipjar" system.
Susbcribers and/or Patrons are only entitled to the rewards the dev/artist set up before hand (in my case, a few days early access) beyond that, there's is nothing special about being a subscriber.

If I were SELLING the game, that would be a different story all together.











TL ; DR: I DO WHAT I WANT... still.

 

[Sehday]

I dunno if this has been answered already but do we know what the next update is focusing on?

 

[TrialRagnarok]

I dunno if this has been answered already but do we know what the next update is focusing on?

Click the "Trello" link in the first post.

 

[cocomiel1]

love the fact that this thread is so active every day between update and update. people arguing and lovin each other. just like a twisted family. just like The Manor.. and in the end of the day, isnt life just like The Manor?

ok. wtf was that. just wanted to say HI !

 

[TrialRagnarok]

love the fact that this thread is so active every day between update and update. people arguing and lovin each other. just like a twisted family. just like The Manor..

Well, hopefully I don't get fucked at any time of the day by some weird ghost or an RKO step-sibling using the powers of a long dead relative.

 

[Banality]

Well, hopefully I don't get fucked at any time of the day by some weird ghost or an RKO step-sibling using the powers of a long dead relative.

in this case you can always rely on the competent policewomen who are there to serve and protect

 

[Scythe_KoP]

I'm enjoying my morning coffee while jacking off to Lucile's glorious Ass.
I don't obsess over BTTM as if it was the second fucking coming of christ.
I wait for the next update because whining like a spoiled child over something that is freely available, here, on a PIRATED GAMES website, is absolutely pointless.
Doing that also makes me seem like a dork, because if I paid Oseo Bones it would always be voluntary, and I could always stop paying him if I were to be unsatisfied.
I would be a cunt if I were to complain about Oseo Bones being paid while I would download this game here, where it's free.
And lastly, I would be an absolute RETARD if I were to compare him to people like ICSTOR, or any other dev who never posts news, only updates a game after fucking years with only 2 scenes of content, or even shows up to react respectfully to those who are unsatisfied.
Y'all can stop paying him. Y'all can stop whining over free shit. Y'all can stop comparing Mahatma Gandhi to Adolf fucking Hitler.
Make of this what you will.
Have a nice day,
And now let me enjoy my FUCKING COFFEE.
Cheers.