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devilxxx

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Exactly. He develops and draws since 5 years for this game. That's a lot of experience. Also he doesn't need to create new stuff in RPGM, because everything he needs, is already there and after 5 years, he knows everything about RPGM. Also he has more experience in how to draw his characters and layer them. Updates should be faster not slower.

Everyone knows, there can be hard times or times where you simply can't come up with some story. Or you feel your story sucks and decide to not publish it. The main reason about my previous post, that got deleted, was, that always some game devs come with the personal problems stuff and use that as excuse. I don't say they are all just lazy, some might really have personal problems, but then they should act like that. Pause the payments and start caring about yourself. Communicate with your community. Communication is key.

Also, many mentioned that this is a pirate site. Yes, but also 95% of all games here wouldn't have a single follower without this site. Some dev's also post their games here, so they get attention. Think about that. None of them does serious or any google ads for his nice incest games.

I'm a donor, as you can see, not only here. So it should be clear already, that I don't have problems to buy or invest some money into games. I have a problem with developer attitudes.
 

zarqupang

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well if i had money i would give money. but i can't and i am sorry for that. this mybe a pirated site but every one still has a voice that is also true because it's a forum. i think things get deleted because how they are put. i like this game and the drawings are great. if the dev needs a break then they should take one and yes turning of the money is the right thing to do hope bones gets over the problems.
 
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PainKnight

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I buy or donate games after i find it on forum. Without f95 global customer of H-games would even know there is a market for this type of product. Forum gather people and create comunity, this effect increase game quality.
 

Sorgath

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I would like you to prove that you can make any RPGM and Ren'Py VN. Oh, you have no interest (assuming you bragging you know how to do everything). My advice is don't over brag yourself without proof...

ROFLMAO regarding to "...not be able to commit myself 100%.." that statement seems to be true about yourself when you stated "...I DONT want to however because I have no interest in making games..."

Have a great day and be safe... (y)
You all fine in your head ? He has no reason to prove anything to you , he just made point that he could do a game with easy program like Ren'Py or RPGM , which to be honest propably most of us could do , just checking youtube video for it makes it obviously clear how easy it is (wouldnt count on quality tho from newbies :ROFLMAO: ) . However you attack the poster just cause he doesnt have motivation to do so , thats just childish. Not having motivation to do so doesnt mean the lack of skill to do so. So rather than being a douche try to be bit more tolerant.
 
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Sorgath

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I just don't understand why people think updates are supposed to take longer the more experience you have. Like the blueprint is already laid out but how does it take even longer to draw tits and come up with a script that most people skip anyway with your "team" after years of experience??
Yeah as stated afterwards , he did mean its easier with more experience and should be alot faster to make updates , simplified version. :giggle:
 
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WheresLucifer

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You all fine in your head ? He has no reason to prove anything to you , he just made point that he could do a game with easy program like Ren'Py or RPGM , which to be honest propably most of us could do , just checking youtube video for it makes it obviously clear how easy it is (wouldnt count on quality tho from newbies :ROFLMAO: ) . However you attack the poster just cause he doesnt have motivation to do so , thats just childish. Not having motivation to do so doesnt mean the lack of skill to do so. So rather than being a douche try to be bit more tolerant.
Well, everyone have the rights to express themselves. However that Ser Davos The Learned Man had criticized number of developers in different forums and claims that he can create the VN better with them with triple A hardcore porn VN and graphics than any other developers. Also some of that Ser Davos The Learned Man's comments was very negative (and insulting) toward the developers which can lead them to walk way from their forum. You may want to tell Ser Davos The Learned Man to stop being a douche and be more tolerant person than complaining certain developers takes too long to develop the next release. He have no experience and no lack of patience to understand the how concept of being a solo or team developer.

In my case, I usually avoid judging the developers by their story, graphic designing, progress, etc. I dont expect the VN to be triple A porn VN. I usually provide positive comments. If there any VN I do not like, I provide a possible comment and walk away from the forum. In this case, for this VN, Dr Bone doing a reasonable job. It had been a while since I last review the VN, which I was planning to revisit this VN to see additional update it has since I last review it.

Of course there are hints and assistant tools for any developers on YouTube as well on other forums in F95. Which it a good thing what F95 forum doing to help and assist some developers who are learning from scratch and etc. F95 forum is good to help provide some info for the developers long with some users who wiling to provide some issues and solutions along with some recommendation for the developer to help improve themselves as well improve their VNs.

Have a great day and be safe. (y)
 

WheresLucifer

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This is like the Icstor saga all over again and that went down long before I came into the porn game scene. From what I understand his updates became rarer and he started to complain about depression and such all the while making bank from his supporters. Now Milfy City is dead and that games' thread over at Fap-Nation is goddamn epic with nonstop shitting on the developer with every meme under the sun.
I have seen developers slow down the updates over the years. We really do not know what the possible issue may be. It is possible they are working on other project that is a contract and it requires them to focus on that. Some may have personal reason (regarding to real life, family, medical reasons, etc * keep in mind people still dealing with COVID-19 and new varies *).

However Patreon is a crowd fund and may have guild lines how it suppose to work. However the subscriber may have signed up that may mean pennies to them and didn't bother unsubscribe Patreon. However of you subscribe to certain VN or developers and you are not please with the performance, then unsubscribe them. It is the same if the developers stop posting for period of time the forum will change to abandoned.

Have a great day and be safe... (y)
 

WheresLucifer

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I just don't understand why people think updates are supposed to take longer the more experience you have. Like the blueprint is already laid out but how does it take even longer to draw tits and come up with a script that most people skip anyway with your "team" after years of experience??
That is all depends. Have to ask yourself is
(1) Is it been develop by solo or team/company? How experience they are? (writing, grammar, graphic/animation designing, etc)
(2) Is it is a part time or full time project?
(3) Is it simple or complex story? Is the story completed? Do they have the flow chart ready or not? If no flow chart, do they have project planning chart?
(4) Does it have funding to support the project?
(5) Are they working on multiple VN project?

I know certain number of developers do it on their own spare time, Patreon may not be enough to support them to focus on it as a full time. Keep in mind the amount they get per month (depending on the requirements to earn it) there are Patreon fees, then taxes and etc. So they do not get that amount you see posted on their site. Since COVID-19 hit world wide, it had effected a number of developers as well users. We all just need to be patience for the next update. If you are not pleased, there are other VNs to explore while waiting for the update or move away from the VN's forum that you are not pleased.

Have a great day and be safe... (y)
 

zarqupang

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well what ever is happening the dev does not need to air it to us that is there besness. let them handle it if they want are help they will ask. like i said i don't make games hell i don't even have money to give them but i still think respect should be shown too all.i respect people tell they disrespect me that is all from rockin rigde hope some on get's that pun lol
 

Sorgath

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That is all depends. Have to ask yourself is
(1) Is it been develop by solo or team/company? How experience they are? (writing, grammar, graphic/animation designing, etc)
(2) Is it is a part time or full time project?
(3) Is it simple or complex story? Is the story completed? Do they have the flow chart ready or not? If no flow chart, do they have project planning chart?
(4) Does it have funding to support the project?
(5) Are they working on multiple VN project?

I know certain number of developers do it on their own spare time, Patreon may not be enough to support them to focus on it as a full time. Keep in mind the amount they get per month (depending on the requirements to earn it) there are Patreon fees, then taxes and etc. So they do not get that amount you see posted on their site. Since COVID-19 hit world wide, it had effected a number of developers as well users. We all just need to be patience for the next update. If you are not pleased, there are other VNs to explore while waiting for the update or move away from the VN's forum that you are not pleased.

Have a great day and be safe... (y)
Dude you are defending a guy who havent done a single update in a half YEAR too much , considering his patreon + subscribestar being 4,5k+ PER MONTH ( at given time checked!) , and not delivering sh1t in half year that is total BS not to mention there is no posts about updates , no defence there at all ! Guy doesnt even bother to update his webpages at all , that is total bs at all against all subbers / fans , like WTF ? And please do not even bother going "problems with covid or family or what not fck" ! , my sister had covid , she had her 2 shots allready thank god , and what do you know , she is fine under 10 days ! symptoms left and no more anything else bothering her. You have quoeted so many messaged being overprotective agaisnt criticism against Bones for him being a ignorant dev who doesnt deliver , are on his paylist ?!? :D or just diehard fanboi ?we all love his work otherwise we wouldnt rant.
 
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Sorgath

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Well, everyone have the rights to express themselves. However that Ser Davos The Learned Man had criticized number of developers in different forums and claims that he can create the VN better with them with triple A hardcore porn VN and graphics than any other developers. Also some of that Ser Davos The Learned Man's comments was very negative (and insulting) toward the developers which can lead them to walk way from their forum. You may want to tell Ser Davos The Learned Man to stop being a douche and be more tolerant person than complaining certain developers takes too long to develop the next release. He have no experience and no lack of patience to understand the how concept of being a solo or team developer.

In my case, I usually avoid judging the developers by their story, graphic designing, progress, etc. I dont expect the VN to be triple A porn VN. I usually provide positive comments. If there any VN I do not like, I provide a possible comment and walk away from the forum. In this case, for this VN, Dr Bone doing a reasonable job. It had been a while since I last review the VN, which I was planning to revisit this VN to see additional update it has since I last review it.

Of course there are hints and assistant tools for any developers on YouTube as well on other forums in F95. Which it a good thing what F95 forum doing to help and assist some developers who are learning from scratch and etc. F95 forum is good to help provide some info for the developers long with some users who wiling to provide some issues and solutions along with some recommendation for the developer to help improve themselves as well improve their VNs.

Have a great day and be safe. (y)
and i would love to see proof on this , easy to blame ppl , harder to show it. If it is so , i do apogize ofc , we cant see all the messages in the fold , or we could but , that would be too much job :D
 
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loco264899

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That is all depends. Have to ask yourself is
(1) Is it been develop by solo or team/company? How experience they are? (writing, grammar, graphic/animation designing, etc)
(2) Is it is a part time or full time project?
(3) Is it simple or complex story? Is the story completed? Do they have the flow chart ready or not? If no flow chart, do they have project planning chart?
(4) Does it have funding to support the project?
(5) Are they working on multiple VN project?

I know certain number of developers do it on their own spare time, Patreon may not be enough to support them to focus on it as a full time. Keep in mind the amount they get per month (depending on the requirements to earn it) there are Patreon fees, then taxes and etc. So they do not get that amount you see posted on their site. Since COVID-19 hit world wide, it had effected a number of developers as well users. We all just need to be patience for the next update. If you are not pleased, there are other VNs to explore while waiting for the update or move away from the VN's forum that you are not pleased.

Have a great day and be safe... (y)
1. You have been developing the game for more than 3 years.
2. You earn enough to be a full-time job and if it is true that you live in Uruguay, let me tell you that you earn better than most people who live in that country since the minimum wage in Uruguay is $ 423 per month.
3.It is a porn game, not a light novel where the attraction is reading.
4. earn more than 4 thousand.
5. Your second project is abandoned for more than 2 years.
 

omenthirteen

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So doc' other game got an abandoned tag , why doesn't this one get one too? It has been too long without an update or a status report
 

thevoid089

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So doc' other game got an abandoned tag , why doesn't this one get one too? It has been too long without an update or a status report
Because SG didn't got any new update for 2 years while this one at least got an update half a year ago, normally the rule would have marked this one too but I guess it depend on the Mod and technically Doc still show bits and pieces about new update for it
 
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