Unity Breed Laboratory [v0.41] [Moeymoey]

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Usokitsuki

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So far the main issue with the base game (without the cheat mod) is that there is an active incentive to not do the sole thing the game exists for - breed. Let me elaborate:
First of all, the pregnancy is an instant game over counter, immediately disincentivizing letting the monsters fuck the protag. While you are able to get rid of the timer by going to the tentacle chair (I'll get to that in a second), it DOESN'T reset the timer, meaning that if you got rid of pregnancy at 99% progression, the moment you're knocked up you're done for.
Second on the list, the global stackable willpower debuff from each orgasm, coupled with 0 willpower leading, again, to instant game over, means that after fucking a monster a couple of times you can get a gameover in the middle of the scene with another monster, without even getting to see the complete scene. This, in turn, disincentivizes trying out and checking out the monsters. I spent the majority of the gameplay having to actively avoid the monsters.
Third in the line is the classic resident evil-esque item economy, particularly the energy drinks (removing the post orgasm willpower debuff so you can fuck without immediate gameover) and the love potions (temporarily disabling orgasms, relevant to the tentacle chair the most). I've only managed to find a single energy drink on the entire map (not counting the 2 willpower buff items) and only two love potions. It is possible to dupe items due to the jankyness of save/load, but as this is not an indended behaviour, I'm not gonna take this into consideration. While this does reinforce the survival loop of conserving your items it is ill fit for a porn game - this is important distinction.
Fourth mention is the tentacle chair, which is your one and only way of removing the gameover counter that is pregnancy. It functions as a normal monster rape, meaning it makes the MC orgasm, with each orgasm stacking the already mentioned willpower debuff, and is capable of ending your game via full willpower drain. This, coupled with a long animation, means that love potion is required to use it, giving you only 2 realistic shots at removing the pregnancy counter, further disintentivizing you from letting it happen.

All of the above combined, it makes for a gameplay loop that actively punishes the player for trying to see the porn stuff happen, going in so far as to game over you in the middle of a sex animation. While there are plenty of scene on gameover oriented titles out there, they usually tend to at least play out the thing that gameover'd you to completion, sometimes continuing the scene until you choose to restart.
The current gameplay loop focuses too deep on recreating the standart survival horror (read, Resident Evil) mechanically that it forgets that it is a porn game and as it stands, offers zero reason to play it as a porn game. Unfortunately, while the porn aspect is somewhat okay, the gameplay loop is too barebones to offer any satisfaction, which makes it seem like the developer is prioritizing the wrong thing.

In my humble opinion it is a bad idea to lean into design philosophy that actively punishes player for seeking out the content the game concept seems to stem from, and this is something that has to be taken into consideration by the developer.
 

Kameronn77x

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CHEATS:
F1 - Removes Stamina debuff and Restore stamina back to max.
F2 - Give cloths (Note: FYI: this function does not give easter egg clothes so be careful when using it. Like MAKE SURE UR INVENTORY IS COMPLETELY EMPTY! )
F3 - Reset Lewd, horny, orgasm statuses.
F4 - Give LovePotion (Its suppose to make it harder for UR Player Character to orgasm or gain lust, one of those IDK. XD )
R - Reloads gun and ignores ammo rechargers that you may or may not have in inventory (the green battery looking things).
(Hold) Left-Shift+CTRL - Faster Running speed. >w>


Fix moving problem:

Fixed running to happen when U press down shift. :p
Tried to sync walking animation with movement speed so it doesn't look like UR flying across the floor during walking.


-Credits-
Maker: noxtek for showing me how to edit C# DLL DNSPY.
Editor: Frostleaf I further improved the cheats he made and
fixed
a few problems with the game.
New Preset CSharps coming soon so U can select between Original and two presets for game play. :p
Does this still work for the new update?
 
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So far the main issue with the base game (without the cheat mod) is that there is an active incentive to not do the sole thing the game exists for - breed. Let me elaborate:
First of all, the pregnancy is an instant game over counter, immediately disincentivizing letting the monsters fuck the protag. While you are able to get rid of the timer by going to the tentacle chair (I'll get to that in a second), it DOESN'T reset the timer, meaning that if you got rid of pregnancy at 99% progression, the moment you're knocked up you're done for.
Second on the list, the global stackable willpower debuff from each orgasm, coupled with 0 willpower leading, again, to instant game over, means that after fucking a monster a couple of times you can get a gameover in the middle of the scene with another monster, without even getting to see the complete scene. This, in turn, disincentivizes trying out and checking out the monsters. I spent the majority of the gameplay having to actively avoid the monsters.
Third in the line is the classic resident evil-esque item economy, particularly the energy drinks (removing the post orgasm willpower debuff so you can fuck without immediate gameover) and the love potions (temporarily disabling orgasms, relevant to the tentacle chair the most). I've only managed to find a single energy drink on the entire map (not counting the 2 willpower buff items) and only two love potions. It is possible to dupe items due to the jankyness of save/load, but as this is not an indended behaviour, I'm not gonna take this into consideration. While this does reinforce the survival loop of conserving your items it is ill fit for a porn game - this is important distinction.
Fourth mention is the tentacle chair, which is your one and only way of removing the gameover counter that is pregnancy. It functions as a normal monster rape, meaning it makes the MC orgasm, with each orgasm stacking the already mentioned willpower debuff, and is capable of ending your game via full willpower drain. This, coupled with a long animation, means that love potion is required to use it, giving you only 2 realistic shots at removing the pregnancy counter, further disintentivizing you from letting it happen.

All of the above combined, it makes for a gameplay loop that actively punishes the player for trying to see the porn stuff happen, going in so far as to game over you in the middle of a sex animation. While there are plenty of scene on gameover oriented titles out there, they usually tend to at least play out the thing that gameover'd you to completion, sometimes continuing the scene until you choose to restart.
The current gameplay loop focuses too deep on recreating the standart survival horror (read, Resident Evil) mechanically that it forgets that it is a porn game and as it stands, offers zero reason to play it as a porn game. Unfortunately, while the porn aspect is somewhat okay, the gameplay loop is too barebones to offer any satisfaction, which makes it seem like the developer is prioritizing the wrong thing.

In my humble opinion it is a bad idea to lean into design philosophy that actively punishes player for seeking out the content the game concept seems to stem from, and this is something that has to be taken into consideration by the developer.
I agree for the most part. I think it doesn't make sense to punish or limit the player very heavily in the very reason why he's playing a porn game. But having sex shouldn't also be scot free, otherwise there would be no gravity of consequence to it and for immersion purposes that's bad cuz there won't be as good of a turn on.

The facehugger is a well designed enemy in this matter for example. Him and some other enemies you can have sex with and all that will do is partially fill those libido gauges and all you have to do is just wait till the empty down. Too much of it will give you penalties, so it forces you to have sex in moderation, and that's good if it's not TOO limiting.
The problems comes with enemies like the flying facehugger, which can't ejaculate in you without making you orgasm, or how the licker won't even start sex until you've orgasmed, so not only the love potion is a limited resource, it doesn't even save you from permanent debuffs in all cases.

My fix: have the maximum stamina penalty regenerate over time, maybe with some conditions, like current max stamina needs to be at it's limit, which can start "pushing back" the penalty, but at a very slow rate || OR || have some kind of limitless restoration mechanism like beds in safe rooms, which you can use to fully heal. So basically allow the player to go back to the very first starting area and have some sleep.
Additionally, a fix would be to make pregnancy similar to "escape giant insect lab" and just give birth without game over screen. Let the "penalty" be the extra monster that emerges from it that you'll have to deal with, as well as maybe some max stamina penalty. giant insect lab game was better in this regard because you could have as much sex and pregnancy as you wanted, but you just had to NOT overdo it. Maybe also add the ability to have a melee attack, in case all your ammo runs out
 

Usokitsuki

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Honestly the easily the best thing about the escape giant insect lab (arguably the only really good thing) was how the childern MC gives birth to would just sorta hang out around and follow you, in a cute way even.
I agree for the most part. I think it doesn't make sense to punish or limit the player very heavily in the very reason why he's playing a porn game. But having sex shouldn't also be scot free, otherwise there would be no gravity of consequence to it and for immersion purposes that's bad cuz there won't be as good of a turn on.

The facehugger is a well designed enemy in this matter for example. Him and some other enemies you can have sex with and all that will do is partially fill those libido gauges and all you have to do is just wait till the empty down. Too much of it will give you penalties, so it forces you to have sex in moderation, and that's good if it's not TOO limiting.
The problems comes with enemies like the flying facehugger, which can't ejaculate in you without making you orgasm, or how the licker won't even start sex until you've orgasmed, so not only the love potion is a limited resource, it doesn't even save you from permanent debuffs in all cases.

My fix: have the maximum stamina penalty regenerate over time, maybe with some conditions, like current max stamina needs to be at it's limit, which can start "pushing back" the penalty, but at a very slow rate || OR || have some kind of limitless restoration mechanism like beds in safe rooms, which you can use to fully heal. So basically allow the player to go back to the very first starting area and have some sleep.
Additionally, a fix would be to make pregnancy similar to "escape giant insect lab" and just give birth without game over screen. Let the "penalty" be the extra monster that emerges from it that you'll have to deal with, as well as maybe some max stamina penalty. giant insect lab game was better in this regard because you could have as much sex and pregnancy as you wanted, but you just had to NOT overdo it. Maybe also add the ability to have a melee attack, in case all your ammo runs out
 
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molitar

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Just finished playing through the level and liked it so far, so here are a few observations (and I am well aware this is just a very basic proof of concept):

- Interesting premise, though I wish the monsters were a tad more... monstrous. The black humanoid just looks lame, and the licker is also pretty mediocre.
- The game was well balanced in terms of ammo and other resources, though it would benefit from a more in-depth tutorial concerning some of the mechanics.
- The music was atmospheric, but it grates on the nerves after a while, and there's a distinct lack of sounds during the sex.
- The environments all look very bland and samey, and the organic effect in certain areas leaves much to be desired.
- I'm hoping this won't be one of those lame porn games where the lewd content is relegated to a fail-state.
- Also, hopefully the player has some agency about what happens during the sex scenes.
- Since the game itself is focused on the monsters themselves, I'm hoping that they will all behave differently and that the player is going to be encouraged to learn what makes them tick.

Concerning the gameplay proper:
- I'm not sure why there is a need to click the mouse button to move the camera around outside the sex scenes, it's very unintuitive.
- Same goes for the shooting, why not just bind the "aim weapon" command to the right mouse button, and the "fire weapon" command to the left mouse button?
Balanced? Not being able to target the licker because your damn body is in the way is balanced? You have to be nuts if you call that balanced. I could not see the damn thing to target and shoot at when I played it because the body blocks it! You could not back up while shooting on top of that. No I would not call that battle balanced!

You see the eggs and know there dangerous but can't destroy them... That is plain stupid.
 
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firefall132

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Cool title but not liking the concept.

If I was the protagonist(aka Male) and it had my opinion of females to breed. Every race, every furry crossbreed and different traits. You could try to focus breeding for a special trait.
So, you're looking for breeding season and other furry farming games lol. They're out there, this isn't one of them.
 
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Balanced? Not being able to target the licker because your damn body is in the way is balanced? You have to be nuts if you call that balanced. I could not see the damn thing to target and shoot at when I played it because the body blocks it! You could not back up while shooting on top of that. No I would not call that battle balanced!

You see the eggs and know there dangerous but can't destroy them... That is plain stupid.
Sounds like a YOU goofing problem. You can zoom in and out a bit, shooting is clunky only because you can't move while aiming, and you can't aim very low or high. But if your enemy is like at least 3 meters away it's not a problem at all. Lickers are like the easiest target to kill. They take 5 hits or so but they are huge, don't aggro if you don't make noise near them, and it's not like they are very fast. Maybe they are faster than the protagonist idk, but they also go through long corridors, so usually you have all the opportunity you need if you decide to kill one off. I mean if it's already in your face and you're running pants down like a headless chicken, then wtf were you expecting, I'm just sayin'.
 

LowLevelLesser

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This game has a ton of potential and I'm interested to see how it turns out. I thought "Insect Lab" was a cool concept game so it's good to see someone wanting to build off of that.
 
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molitar

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Sounds like a YOU goofing problem. You can zoom in and out a bit, shooting is clunky only because you can't move while aiming, and you can't aim very low or high. But if your enemy is like at least 3 meters away it's not a problem at all. Lickers are like the easiest target to kill. They take 5 hits or so but they are huge, don't aggro if you don't make noise near them, and it's not like they are very fast. Maybe they are faster than the protagonist idk, but they also go through long corridors, so usually you have all the opportunity you need if you decide to kill one off. I mean if it's already in your face and you're running pants down like a headless chicken, then wtf were you expecting, I'm just sayin'.
Well could have name wrong.. it was the first one you fought.. the small damn thing that your body hid when trying to aim.. but all I could see was my damn body.
 
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Well could have name wrong.. it was the first one you fought.. the small damn thing that your body hid when trying to aim.. but all I could see was my damn body.
Ah, I see. It's called impregna-something. It just needs like 39 stamina to escape. It's small so I can see how it can be hard to hit it, plus it's moving at a moderate speed, but playin patiently will make you spot them from a distance roaming so you can snipe them down. Again don't forget to zoom out, and if an enemy is already in your face then any enemy will grab you
 

AkagiVoid

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For everyone dat mentioned me.

Me and Noxtek decided to not mod the game any mar because of its alpha status.
I will try to release a mod on every update that haves the floors connected to one another. >w>
 
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RockySausage

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seems like that humanoid dog thing always runs out of stamina before he gets to cum in the new update. Or is that just me?
 
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