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Squark ⚧❤️

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I downloaded the game recently and tried to play. But didn't find the way to obtain the resourses to buy houses to keep nephelims. Any help will be appreciated
There should be a character named Fern on the farm. Fuck some money out of her. It's a small amount but after a few wasted days, you ought to have enough to get one barn.
 

Spillthebeans

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To be honest, I don't understand why people think the Botn is a grindy game. What is the "grind" means for you? Do you wanna get perfect Neph in 30 min? Then what? I like to play the game for at least 10 hours to get the very good ones. You breed for 10 hours yeah because it's fun to get a good one at every mass breading and making other combinations to get better.

I am asking those questions to get more clear idea from players so I can use it when time has come.
Ways to adjust the rng in a certain direction would help mitigate what makes it so frustrating, such as items that may increase the chance of an outcome (skin color, traits, features, etc). What makes botn unrewarding is that everything you breed is superficial, there's nothing for you to pit your perfect creations stats against, no dick measuring contest to see just how much better you are compared to other people. It doesn't help that almost every character looks the same which only makes it that much worse. Take slave matrix, for example, there's nothing to compare your creatures stats to but the sheer amount of combinations more than makes up for it. It's always interesting to see what combos you can come up with and you can come up with some pretty wild outcomes. I would absolutely love the grind if I had some goal to grind against, some high, almost unobtainable objective rather than creating a slightly larger/smaller clone with a couple of accessories stapled on that has the same lackluster face and same boring animations. Speaking of animations, the game needs more and there needs to be more aggressive motions, it feels too floaty and I can't get into it, reaper has what I would consider the "best" animation but at this point I'd take quantity just to make the sex less repetitive.
has there been any word from Direct's discord?
Dude went from making a breeding game to pushing dildos, his discord is dead, people don't even post presets anymore.
 

slick97

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While BoTN certainly isn't a casino like Noita, it still suffers from RNG. The main issue is the lack of tools or ways to manipulate the offspring produced. As of now, all you can do is select who fucks who and hope for the best. I've thought of 3 ways to make breeding easier:
  1. Plain better results: Like I've said, increasing the chance for traits to pass on and such would make breeding much easier and take less time. Even if it is a crude solution.
  2. Proper Tools: Essentially, if there was some way to add specific traits or influence results, you could get what you wished for faster. Yes, it is a vague suggestion but there's plenty of ways it could be done.
  3. Less RNG: Pretty much, a rework of the breeding mechanic that requires the player to analyze traits more, but also gives more predictable results. Would probably nuke the save files.
Your entire post honestly deserves more recognition for understanding game design better than 99% of the people in this thread. It also articulates the differences between proper use of RNG (i.e. predictability despite random elements), and an improper use of it.

Of the 3 suggestions you gave, option 2 is what I would recommend for DH. It allows quite a bit of creative freedom in what modifies base chances and how it's done. It could be that we can create potions from cum/milk that increases the likelihood of some traits while decreasing the chance of others, or it could be boosted based on environmental/location factors.



A possible scenario:
Let's say that a player wants to increase the chance of getting the "hedonist" trait alongside increasing fertility. It's established to the player that demons tend to naturally spawn with the hedonist trait, so collecting either sperm or milk could be used as the first ingredient. It's also established that Threae (or however the bee people are spelled) and bunnies reproduce at higher rates, so using their semen as the second incredient would increase the fertility stat. Combining both ingredients would give you both benefits that could be used on a single nephelym.

We could expand this further by adding an additional element: a base for the potion. The potion base could either increase potency (higher chances and stat changes), increase duration (last for multiple breeding sessions), or be applied to multiple nephelym. The bases could easily be added to a vendor list tied to the goblin girl in town since she is established as the town alchemist.
 

captain_orange

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I'm stuck at "Widow's Juicy Elf" tasks, I play this game for 30 hours there has never see "Juicy"、" Kindhearted"、"Meaty"、" Nurturing"、"Nymphomaniac" or "Stoic" traits, Do these traits really exist?
 

Dirgha

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I'm stuck at "Widow's Juicy Elf" tasks, I play this game for 30 hours there has never see "Juicy"、" Kindhearted"、"Meaty"、" Nurturing"、"Nymphomaniac" or "Stoic" traits, Do these traits really exist?
To see more traits, you have to increase Worlds level (not sure if the corresponding cheat still works in the newest version).

I'd suggest to focus on catching the kinds of nephelym that tend to have certain traits:


As far as I remember, Titans, Bovaur, and Slime often have the Juicy trait. Hunt them till you get one, and then crossbreed it with Elves.
 

Squark ⚧❤️

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any new incest mods?
Why do you need a new one?
It's linked to in the Opening Post. READ EVERY WORD CAREFULLY.
To keep it simple:
1) Enable View File Extensions (Google is your friend). This part is actually essential.
2) In the same folder that has OBF.exe, create a blank text document.
3) Rename that New Text Document.txt to imma and change the extension from .txt to .degenerate. Okay it when it asks if you're sure.
3i) The File Type must not say that it's a text file. It has to say DEGENERATE file. That's why Step 1 is vital.

That's it. I don't think the method has changed in the few builds since I played last.
 
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captain_orange

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To see more traits, you have to increase Worlds level (not sure if the corresponding cheat still works in the newest version).

I'd suggest to focus on catching the kinds of nephelym that tend to have certain traits:


As far as I remember, Titans, Bovaur, and Slime often have the Juicy trait. Hunt them till you get one, and then crossbreed it with Elves.
I will try it, Thank!

Is it correct to increase world level like in the wiki?
 

LolmanT

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Why do you need a new one?
It's linked to in the Opening Post. READ EVERY WORD CAREFULLY.
To keep it simple:
1) Enable View File Extensions (Google is your friend). This part is actually essential.
2) In the same folder that has OBF.exe, create a blank text document.
3) Rename that New Text Document.txt to imma and change the extension from .txt to .degenerate. Okay it when it asks if you're sure.
3i) The File Type must not say that it's a text file. It has to say DEGENERATE file. That's why Step 1 is vital.

That's it. I don't think the method has changed in the few builds since I played last.
Bro Thanks you so much! and sorry for bothering
 

nulnil

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Of the 3 suggestions you gave, option 2 is what I would recommend for DH. It allows quite a bit of creative freedom in what modifies base chances and how it's done. It could be that we can create potions from cum/milk that increases the likelihood of some traits while decreasing the chance of others, or it could be boosted based on environmental/location factors.

A possible scenario:
Let's say that a player wants to increase the chance of getting the "hedonist" trait alongside increasing fertility. It's established to the player that demons tend to naturally spawn with the hedonist trait, so collecting either sperm or milk could be used as the first ingredient. It's also established that Threae (or however the bee people are spelled) and bunnies reproduce at higher rates, so using their semen as the second incredient would increase the fertility stat. Combining both ingredients would give you both benefits that could be used on a single nephelym.

We could expand this further by adding an additional element: a base for the potion. The potion base could either increase potency (higher chances and stat changes), increase duration (last for multiple breeding sessions), or be applied to multiple nephelym. The bases could easily be added to a vendor list tied to the goblin girl in town since she is established as the town alchemist.
This is precisely what the game needs.
 
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Drages

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Your entire post honestly deserves more recognition for understanding game design better than 99% of the people in this thread. It also articulates the differences between proper use of RNG (i.e. predictability despite random elements), and an improper use of it.

Of the 3 suggestions you gave, option 2 is what I would recommend for DH. It allows quite a bit of creative freedom in what modifies base chances and how it's done. It could be that we can create potions from cum/milk that increases the likelihood of some traits while decreasing the chance of others, or it could be boosted based on environmental/location factors.



A possible scenario:
Let's say that a player wants to increase the chance of getting the "hedonist" trait alongside increasing fertility. It's established to the player that demons tend to naturally spawn with the hedonist trait, so collecting either sperm or milk could be used as the first ingredient. It's also established that Threae (or however the bee people are spelled) and bunnies reproduce at higher rates, so using their semen as the second incredient would increase the fertility stat. Combining both ingredients would give you both benefits that could be used on a single nephelym.

We could expand this further by adding an additional element: a base for the potion. The potion base could either increase potency (higher chances and stat changes), increase duration (last for multiple breeding sessions), or be applied to multiple nephelym. The bases could easily be added to a vendor list tied to the goblin girl in town since she is established as the town alchemist.
Basicly you ask for an alchemy system which is an awesome idea!

Tell this at Botn Discord and the mods and their fellas will tell you that it won't help, not worth for time or it would be hard to implement and DH won't respond at all as he is working to add more for the dildo company.
 
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Spillthebeans

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How do you see world level after the UI overhaul? I can't find it anywhere.
You don't. The only surefire way to know is to go to the area where nephelym spawn and check them individually to see what rarities spawn. Now repeat that for every race :^)
 

RubyZeronyka

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does the max all fluids code not work anymore ?
The fluids system got overhauled, so I think there's no longer a hard limit for how much fluids you can carry. That I believe has turned the previous cheat pretty much useless since it relied on applying the max possible value to it.
 

Daniel Aperture

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As someone who's been playing the steam release for a while now, it's really disheartening to see the general mood about this game. I hope things get better :/
 

Voltanis

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How to get the game to actually render the resolution you set it to? Changing resolution in game does nothing. It says 3840x2160 but it's clearly not. Even the GameUserSettings config file keeps reverting to 2214x1254.

Somehow I used to play this game fine in 4k but this is after updating I'm getting this.


Edit: Was related to fullscreen option for some reason borderless wasn't using whatever resolution I changed to.

Adding "FullscreenMode=0" to "GameUserSettings.ini" fixed this issue.
 
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