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Actually, those developers who already have jumped ship are not losing out at all, they are succeeding. I am subscribed to some over there as I slowly move all my support off of Patreon when the option comes up for each developer I support. In fact, people remaining on Patreon are losing out on potential new subscribers because a lot of people who would support them refuse to support Patreon.Not gonna lie, I'm legitimately curious about what you guys expect Derelict to have done? Do you honestly think he'd close the Patreon account, take a roughly 90%-99% paycut, and jump ship to SubscribeStar? Do you think he'd even consider, at all, the idea of dropping the subscription model entirely and just selling via Steam?
Patreon gets away with this bullshit because they only technically have competition. Anyone who jumps ship to retain their product is losing a very substantial amount of income in the process, likely permanently because no other platform has even remotely close to the same market penetration while still being a subscription model.
It's more about the general fact that DH bowed to Patreon instead of finding an alternative that allowed the content to stay in my case. Removing it by his own choice alone is one thing, removing it because someone else told him to is a completely different thing. There is also now a lack of consequence if you don't watch who you pair up. With the incest, there were actually consequences due to a thing called inbreeding, which caused a potential for lower stats and pricing than desired, as Jadedone said. For that reason, the player had to watch out for sibling pairs or their own offspring to avoid it and get the best result. There is now no consequence and the player can breed any pair at any time without worrying about lowered stats. It may have only been a minor change to the possible stats and pricing, but this could be just the beginning. Because of the way most mechanics are laid out, Patreon could come after even more aspects. Captured Nephs are technically slaves, not allowed by Patreon. Captured nephs cannot consent and are being exploited, both also not allowed as that would make it rape in their eyes. The problem isn't just the incest, it's the implication that this game could very easily change completely from what it is now, which is a VERY bad thing.why ppl are so upset about incest in this game ? i dont even remember where is the incest part , this is not like a story incest game like renpy or rpg
There are content makers I've seen who are doing better on sites like SubscribeStar than they did on Patreon. All of them are, without exception, people who pulled out of Patreon well before they picked up a head of steam on that site. DH has the 9th biggest adult game Patreon, by subscriber count. He is not going to match that on a smaller site, no matter what he does.Actually, those developers who already have jumped ship are not losing out at all, they are succeeding. I am subscribed to some over there as I slowly move all my support off of Patreon when the option comes up for each developer I support. In fact, people remaining on Patreon are losing out on potential new subscribers because a lot of people who would support them refuse to support Patreon.
Fun fact about that - no site like Patreon is sustainable. It's not a viable business model for profit unless, like youtube, the site is assumed to be a loss and funded anyway because the profit is elsewhere. Patreon's CEO admitted it, but the problem, such as it is, applies to SubscribeStar and other similar companies too.Jumping Patreon now is a good idea given that only a year or two ago it came out that they're unsustainable. They got all that big tech money, grew too fast, and now can't pay back their supporters. Sure, they'll get a cash injection now and again to keep them treading water, but it's a matter of time before they get their head pushed under the water for not towing the line well enough or fast enough.
Unike Youtube, which constantly runs at a loss yet still remains, Patreon can't actively push a message since it requires the little people to work rather than big businesses, meaning all it can do is control who we are allowed support. Problem with that is, also unlike YouTube, them openly discriminating begs for a tortious interference case (see Owen Benjamin) since all they are is a glorified money delivery man.
He did.He should open one anyways so people have another way to support him. Not like people won't mod the incest back in anyways lmfao
Pass the catgirls along the ridge before harpy gate.Where can i find Petra been looking for her near the other rabbits but can't seem to find her?
I'm painting them that way because that's how it is in this case. DerelictHelmsman has a choice: take a massive paycut and keep incest, or cut incest and keep making as much money as he is. There are literally no options for him that allow him to both keep making this much money and keep incest in the game. None. At all. And anyone who argues the moralistic standpoint about sites moderating content is opting to ignore that fact.It's not that you don't have a pragmatic point, but you are painting things in a very "it's either X or Y" way. And that's the main problem with platforms when they start rolling billions, the aforementioned being the prolonged and propagandistic bs they have created with their decrepit, pseudo-woke platform.
Because it's ridiculously expensive and well beyond the ability of developers who aren't programmers. You don't often see people capable of working up an entire backend toolchain like that making a game in renpy, unity, or unreal engine. And the startup cost of that approach also precludes a lot of developers capable of doing it just by dint of, well. Cost. AO titles are a very risky endeavor and people often aren't going to risk sinking that much money into them. And while that's less of a valid argument since you mentioned high-income projects specifically, crowdsourced income skews heavily towards teams or solo developers that lean on art, and skews away from projects that lean on programming ability.At this point I seriously wonder why some high-income projects aren't going the DIY route, rent some AMZN servers, buy a good site template with good dev tools and then set up an authenticated posting area.
Simplest solution to finding the game would just be to make the user put the script where the game is. Why make a complicated algorithm when the user (should) already know the answer.I've been writing a patcher to restore incest to the game, it's a command line tool (it's written in Perl with .exe and .pl flavors) and it's going to need testing and I don't want to piss off DH but I'm sick of Patreon's overly nuts censorship.
Anyway looking for brave souls to help test and hoping I can put it up here or on LewdPatcher when it's ready.
The patch is presently working and hopefully will work on future versions. Right now the patcher can't find the game very well on it's own (still working on that) and the patching/backup/revert code has been tested on exactly one machine.