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b00marrows

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I just realized the game doesn't have chest size sliders, as in actual chest/rib sliders.
OMFG someone tell him
 
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muschi26

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For sliders, I just want the ability to decouple some of them, so I can e.g. make it so wearing a shirt kind of pushes the breasts up, but taking it off makes them take on a more natural appearance. Would also allow me have breasts grow during pregnancy, as well as the belly.
 

RubyZeronyka

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It's funny how the dev claims he has triggered another saves wipe to fix some CTD bugs yet this version is still giving some crashes while even previewing nephs on the breeding yard. Also Im begining to notice some serious inconsistencies on key elements of the gameplay that should have been fixed by now. Like you can get pregnant by sex with vagrants yet you cannot impregnate nephs by using the same system, forcing you to deal with the yard.

Also it wasnt a big deal before but the dick physics has shown how staying with the idea of futas without balls is not as good as it might seem, specially with how most of the nephs tend to be by default on the chubby side of proportions, dicks when they are floppy either look like an oversized clit or a strapon that can get itself erect. When it's hard you dont notice that but when it's flacid it looks super odd. Specially when you see it on big dick nephtypes like bovaurs.
 
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Squark ⚧❤️

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For sliders, I just want the ability to decouple some of them, so I can e.g. make it so wearing a shirt kind of pushes the breasts up, but taking it off makes them take on a more natural appearance. Would also allow me have breasts grow during pregnancy, as well as the belly.
There's a chainlink icon at the top of the screen in character creation or editing at the farmhouse with the Edit Appearance option.
It's on by default. Click it to turn it off.
It's how my Breeders always have Heterochromia.
 

muschi26

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There's a chainlink icon at the top of the screen in character creation or editing at the farmhouse with the Edit Appearance option.
It's on by default. Click it to turn it off.
It's how my Breeders always have Heterochromia.
I think I tried that, but I don't remember it working with clothes on/off, and I'm pretty sure it didn't affect pregnancy, but I could be wrong. I do remember getting heterochromia to work, however.
 

TheOtherDragonborn

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It makes no sense to do full save wipes for something that can be fixed through a save import feature that would take only moments to write and minimal effort to maintain. Something like a physics engine change can literally just add in the default values to existing players and nephs on older saves. Even changes in traits can just add/subtract to make existing nephs compatible in the new build.

Sure, such a feature would definitely introduce its own bugs, but it would give the players that put significant time and effort into the game a chance to not lose all of their progress.

The only time a full save wipe ever makes sense is if the world or progression system significantly change to the point that there is no way to resolve the two (e.g. the doors and locks that have to be opened in a certain order). Even here though, he could simply set it to unlock or reset all the gates while leaving your nephs and world levels unchanged.

Cheats can then be used to adjust things to put you at the same point.

Either the dev doesn't recognize how much of a pain in the ass this is or doesn't care. Both are disheartening.
 

technomage

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Has anyone tried just upping the version in the save file on saveditonline to see if it works? Worst case, game crashes, which is really no different than a save wipe anyways.
 

RubyZeronyka

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Last time I successfully impregnated a Vagrant Nephelym, so not sure what you mean
I just tried it with the Always Reproduce cheat which makes any "pregnant-able" sex interaction to trigger a pregnancy and it doesnt make them pregnant. Also when I mean Vagrant Neph I mean getting them pregnant not on the Breeding Yard but when they are roaming free on the homestead and you jump on them.
 

Evangelion-01

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I just tried it with the Always Reproduce cheat which makes any "pregnant-able" sex interaction to trigger a pregnancy and it doesnt make them pregnant. Also when I mean Vagrant Neph I mean getting them pregnant not on the Breeding Yard but when they are roaming free on the homestead and you jump on them.
I get what you meant but also that I naturally was able to impregnate a Vagrant Cow girl while she was strolling around the farm (previously she impregnated the MC aswell).... it didn't work on the first try, but after 3 tries MC was announced pregnant, pretty much the same for the cow, but I think it took a few more tries
 

RubyZeronyka

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I agree with Squark, there has been a lot of evidence in the past and even today that he's more on the "Doesnt care" side, deliberately forcing people to deal with that grind and having to start all over again from scratch every few minor updates. Honestly the only time in which things got sort of justifiable on a save wipe aspect was when they changed a few big core aspects of the game like there were:
- The renaming of the base game process from Radiant to OBF.
- Totally changing the capturing of nephs system and introduction of trait levels and world level as well.

But even then I would still argue that you could work around that issue by bringing something to be able to at least import some non recreatable features like the nephs you have captured or breeded.... With the blending colors system it's almost impossible to get the same neph twice even if you pair two of the same type in the same way under similar conditions, suposing you're lucky enough to capture two of the same type. Tho I guess in the end, the dev is the way he is; Has a lot of biases towards many things but is so unwilling to have their fanbase to enjoy for real his already funneled game unless he's threatened. Remember back then when the "imma lazy sack" cheat was always confirmed with a "Your mother would be so proud"? Like mocking you for not being willing to put up with the stupid grind he came up with and never giving a single fuck about their fans feels about it until enough of them started to go publically against him forcing him to change that to a dummy "success" or else.

Seriously I can understand games every big ass updates requiring some kind of restart of the game progress with a fresh new save but even then the devs try to make the saves to be able to be imported or converted somehow cause people spend hours sometimes of progress to having to start from the very begining again, those cases are rare but in this game is all, the, fukin, time. And if we were talking about a game you could speedrun it would be fine but no, is a game that you're forced to cheat to get to the endgame content without weeks of gameplay, but if you cheat you either skip the game's meat as a whole and also get sort of mocked by it or have to memorize the hell out of how to find the constrictedly optimal way of playing like if this is Dark Souls IV Breeders of the Nephelym (Which btw is one of the few actual games the dev plays, just saying).

I have been playing this game for too long but I was hoping that finally with the change from Radiant to OBF the save wipes would stop but they didnt, and the change that happened to the game from .7 to .8 WAS NOT ENOUGH AT ALL TO JUSTIFY A SAFE WIPE. He added and removed dick physics in the past without a safe wipe, he did bugfixes in the past without a safe wipe, he totally retweaked things on the preset systems without requiring a safe wipe and most importantly. And the worst of all, he's still doing it in a way that for some illogical fuckupness the new saves on new game versions DO LOAD in previous games, but not the opposite which to me it only makes any sense at all if the dev deliberately made things that way on porpouse.
 

RubyZeronyka

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Anyway ironically enough this has brought me back to Skyrim and the pregnancy mods that it has available which in some aspects are much more useful than the default BotN. Sure, you dont get the offspring generation system this game offers you but Ill argue that even that is workaroundable in some ways and potentially better than how it is by default on BotN. As much as I initially praised sometimes this game's offspring generation system, in some key aspects it lacks some logical elements. For example. Your character lack scales, your mate's neph also lack scales, yet your offspring ends up being born with them. Even if you lack a preset that has those, the game can still select it. I dont mind having a fat one from two thin parents or having a purple haired daughter from a redhead and bluehaired set of parents and some combinations that doesnt make much sense when combined together.
 
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