Karack

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No need to be sry. DH uses some unique addons for the models, mostly about the interaction between models. For those reasons, just having the game code would not be enough. You need to have everything. But you can make gay stuff without problem but DH did not make the game with all the possibilities so you can't just chance some parameters and got the gay sex. I am not so expert about those stuff but rather then modding it would be better to re-code it.

Botn is not a masterpiece. Concept is copied from Breeding Season and turn into a 3D world, which can be done even with assets in unreal and some simple mechanics. DH saw the opportunity and did the right thing right time. He is a game dev as a job so he is not someone random who wanna learn how to make games. If there is a free UE5 developer out there, who can code the simple roaming/zoning mechanic can find a modeler/rigger and an animator and viola. I am a designer and animator so, 2 people and some stuff out sourced can easily create an awesome breeding game.

I still think Breeding Season is better. It's clearly designed by people who knows this stuff, good art choice, very brave and open content but they fly too high and burned in the sun. I think breeding games should be fast. Nobody cares the mediocre animations after few times and you just spam breed until you get better and better results. Yes, visuals are important to get people but the game part always more important. Like the Palworld against Pokemon.

Very interesting, well in that case at least now I know what's really happening in the background of this game.

And that, hopping for anykind of future for it will either take 10 more years or maybe someone (wink;wink) will finally make a proper 3D breeding game :)

Anyway, thanks for your time.
 
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RubyZeronyka

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No need to be sry. DH uses some unique addons for the models, mostly about the interaction between models. For those reasons, just having the game code would not be enough. You need to have everything. But you can make gay stuff without problem but DH did not make the game with all the possibilities so you can't just chance some parameters and got the gay sex. I am not so expert about those stuff but rather then modding it would be better to re-code it.

Botn is not a masterpiece. Concept is copied from Breeding Season and turn into a 3D world, which can be done even with assets in unreal and some simple mechanics. DH saw the opportunity and did the right thing right time. He is a game dev as a job so he is not someone random who wanna learn how to make games. If there is a free UE5 developer out there, who can code the simple roaming/zoning mechanic can find a modeler/rigger and an animator and viola. I am a designer and animator so, 2 people and some stuff out sourced can easily create an awesome breeding game.

I still think Breeding Season is better. It's clearly designed by people who knows this stuff, good art choice, very brave and open content but they fly too high and burned in the sun. I think breeding games should be fast. Nobody cares the mediocre animations after few times and you just spam breed until you get better and better results. Yes, visuals are important to get people but the game part always more important. Like the Palworld against Pokemon.
I think that you nailed. A big part of the success of Palworld is based on how burnt out people were with Pokemon's repetitive playloop and lack of innovation. It added in a game every single thing that people have been asking for years but they got too confy on their undesputed thrones to even bother innovating. Palworld devs saw the chance and made the game and now is on it's way to be the most played game in Steam's history. It has already succeeded at reaching the number 1 spot in a few categories and hey. It's competing against the likes of Counter Strike and that bloody game I have been annoyed of hearing about it all the time since I was barely say ungabunga XD
 
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(...) If a game like Wild Life is like the triple A adult game standards you can find, what do you expect other games to fare?
I've noticed this since ~2 years ago, it's that some of the best "porn game" experience i've ever had were rarely from playing actual porn game made by porn game devs, they're mostly from an actual game that is modded with porn (sims4, skyrim, rimworld, etc)

Ironically porn modders are better at making porn game experiences than an actual dedicated porn game developer
 

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Ironically porn modders are better at making porn game experiences than an actual dedicated porn game developer
Because people want to have "a game" with porn in it. They still want to play Skyrim or Rimworld as it is but just kinky stuff they want to see.

Dedicated porn game developers are mostly not so game developers. They create interactive porn experience, you watch porn but got limited control over it. It's not enough for many people. Modders mostly do not know to make a game or not enough time for it. Making a game is way more then modding and requires a dedicated team with many years of development.

Botn is a pokemon game with breeding. Imagine you can bring your neph to catch wild nephs with some kind of sex game which you can use positions as attacks... Imagine to make it online and let people use their nephs for duels.. Options are limitless for a serious developing team.

DH did not care nobody or his game, at least for many years. Sad..
 

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Botn is a pokemon game with breeding. Imagine you can bring your neph to catch wild nephs with some kind of sex game which you can use positions as attacks... Imagine to make it online and let people use their nephs for duels.. Options are limitless for a serious developing team.
Yeah, i mentioned these a few posts ago after seeing how popular "pokemon with guns" became, it's that botn had actually been in such a perfect spot to surprise the world by storm as "pokemon with sex" waay earlier but it got fumbled into a coma state
 
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I've noticed this since ~2 years ago, it's that some of the best "porn game" experience i've ever had were rarely from playing actual porn game made by porn game devs, they're mostly from an actual game that is modded with porn (sims4, skyrim, rimworld, etc)

Ironically porn modders are better at making porn game experiences than an actual dedicated porn game developer
Same here. While Skyrim for various reasons is on a league of its own, its crazy that say games like Conan Exiles or even Minecraft feels superior in giving sex vibes than other porn games. Well I hate Cyberpunk but its insane how messing with photomode and mods for it I can get better lewd results than in Wild Life. With the difference than outside photomode there's content to play, while Wild Life is still hollow. And again, this is coming from someone that despises Cyberpunk in many many ways. But Im not blind, if it does something better than another Im not gonna hide it. Its.... Sad NGL :confused:
 

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Because people want to have "a game" with porn in it. They still want to play Skyrim or Rimworld as it is but just kinky stuff they want to see.

Dedicated porn game developers are mostly not so game developers. They create interactive porn experience, you watch porn but got limited control over it. It's not enough for many people. Modders mostly do not know to make a game or not enough time for it. Making a game is way more then modding and requires a dedicated team with many years of development.

Botn is a pokemon game with breeding. Imagine you can bring your neph to catch wild nephs with some kind of sex game which you can use positions as attacks... Imagine to make it online and let people use their nephs for duels.. Options are limitless for a serious developing team.

DH did not care nobody or his game, at least for many years. Sad..
Another big factor is that lets address the elephant on the room. Someone may not have experience making games but if they're gamers themselves they're way ahead of the pack. A big issue is that most developers, indie or triple A-ed are NOT gamers themselves. Im not talking casual or hardcore, I mean gamers like, AT ALL. People that truly enjoy games or have an actual passion for anything gaming related. Thats partially why games like Palworld or Skyrim were so damn succesful. You hear the devs talking and you could notice the vibe in their coments that they cared about the players experience, they cared about fun an engaging playloops. In other words, they WERE gamers themselves. I remember an interview of Pocketpair CEO mentioning he wanted to make a samdbox but with some automation cause he found the resource gathering in other samdboxes a bit too tedious to deal. Details like that you HAVE to be a gamer to notice cause just by playing you get that vibe. Thats what ends up separating those games from others and why I get the feel that Palworld soon could be if not the new Skyrim, it would definitely be something that complements it.
 

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Yeah, i mentioned these a few posts ago after seeing how popular "pokemon with guns" became, it's that botn had actually been in such a perfect spot to surprise the world by storm as "pokemon with sex" waay earlier but it got fumbled into a coma state
U made me remind that "Press F to pay respects" meme. Guess with BotN thats getting close to happen lol
 

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Found a nice and also funny Speedrun for BotN. Skip the commercial part at the beginning. :D
 

Peach_Fuzz

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I'm stuck, but I'm not sure if my game's bugged or if there's another keystone somewhere. I made it to the Amorous Hollows and I have everywhere unlocked except for the Glade and the Crag, but I need an elf to get the next keystone. I checked the Game Progression Wiki page and I've gotten all the keystones listed there. I'd rather not sequence break with cheats when I'm this close to unlocking the whole map. So is there another keystone that's not listed on the wiki, or did I hit a game-breaking bug?
 

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I'm stuck, but I'm not sure if my game's bugged or if there's another keystone somewhere. I made it to the Amorous Hollows and I have everywhere unlocked except for the Glade and the Crag, but I need an elf to get the next keystone. I checked the Game Progression Wiki page and I've gotten all the keystones listed there. I'd rather not sequence break with cheats when I'm this close to unlocking the whole map. So is there another keystone that's not listed on the wiki, or did I hit a game-breaking bug?
did u trade the pearl for the slimes keystone in the sewer? also u cant go to the crag until the spiders request is done because webs
 

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"Max all traits" doesn't work anymore? did they added some editor for the monsters you catch?
I was curious about this too, since I recall a lot of those cheats. I've downloaded this game yesterday and was short in trouble to find the cheat menue (~ Key). That one change too compared with my last played version.
You can try to enter "max all trait" without the S at the end, because I was thinking that is was slightly different to "max all fluids".

Edit: see attachment "max trait level"
 

Ahrima

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I was curious about this too, since I recall a lot of those cheats. I've downloaded this game yesterday and was short in trouble to find the cheat menue (~ Key). That one change too compared with my last played version.
You can try to enter "max all trait" without the S at the end, because I was thinking that is was slightly different to "max all fluids".

Edit: see attachment "max trait level"
i was trying to do it but it looks like the last build is different.... you just have to click in the question mark
 
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Because people want to have "a game" with porn in it. They still want to play Skyrim or Rimworld as it is but just kinky stuff they want to see.

Dedicated porn game developers are mostly not so game developers. They create interactive porn experience, you watch porn but got limited control over it. It's not enough for many people. Modders mostly do not know to make a game or not enough time for it. Making a game is way more then modding and requires a dedicated team with many years of development.

Botn is a pokemon game with breeding. Imagine you can bring your neph to catch wild nephs with some kind of sex game which you can use positions as attacks... Imagine to make it online and let people use their nephs for duels.. Options are limitless for a serious developing team.

DH did not care nobody or his game, at least for many years. Sad..
I know you from another game...but Its kinda ironic I mean Its sad that guys like you have hard start compare to others like DH who just milk as much as he can ppl(I dont blame him ppl who donate him are just dumb as fuck so why dont earn money? I would do the same In his place)

True future of porno games will be when AI get better even now the chat AI are so god damn good even If they are not perfect yet.

Imagine a game like Baldur gate 3 but with AI In It who has acces to the internet information where the AI as you companion would do things dependent on what you write In It when you creat a companion for example "Dark elf outcast warlock who despite everything related to the humans kingdom she Is quite person but the darkness even madness can be seen when she get angry" thats just example right without the kinky/porno things but Imagine when you could write down a whole character including looking/perosnality/sex preference and the AI would act based on the information putting In It.

The only real problem with It now Is the AI memory that often forget about things the more you speak with It the more older information It forgot.

Second problem Is that If the AI would have free acess to the internet someone would had to write down a script for the AI to make sure which information to researche If the game itself dont have information about question of the MC (us) like "do you belive In god" then If the game dont have that Information the AI with the script would research correct information In Internet to give us the anserw as we know AI learn the more you speak with It so the more you spend time In game with you AI companion the more AI become more alike human beings...or dark lady elf :) I gusse the best way Is to pack as much information some kinda of data base of races/genders/religions/classes In the game would be good enough the thing with internet Is that If the game Itself would miss a information the AI would just research the information because the game cant contain a whole internet informations.



The last problem Is how fast the AI would react to our actions and question,the best way would be just teach the AI,the AI also would require a stable server In order to gathering information based on our current stage/conversation/actions etc.
 

Peach_Fuzz

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did u trade the pearl for the slimes keystone in the sewer? also u cant go to the crag until the spiders request is done because webs
I didn't trade her for it, I had sex with her twice and she fell asleep, then I just took it. And yeah I know I can't get to the crag yet. The problem is I can't get to the Glade either.
 

Ahrima

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Because people want to have "a game" with porn in it. They still want to play Skyrim or Rimworld as it is but just kinky stuff they want to see.

Dedicated porn game developers are mostly not so game developers. They create interactive porn experience, you watch porn but got limited control over it. It's not enough for many people. Modders mostly do not know to make a game or not enough time for it. Making a game is way more then modding and requires a dedicated team with many years of development.

Botn is a pokemon game with breeding. Imagine you can bring your neph to catch wild nephs with some kind of sex game which you can use positions as attacks... Imagine to make it online and let people use their nephs for duels.. Options are limitless for a serious developing team.

DH did not care nobody or his game, at least for many years. Sad..
well thats due to the fact that once you jerk off you dont have any other uses to a game that's nothing but an animation showcase and the majority of hentai games is like that. anyway i still think that adding a combat system or else to an illusion game would do the trick, it would be a huge mod but still we should find more uses to the trading image system.
 

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LOL I was reading reviews to see if this was any good and one dude was complaining there was no Male on Male and no Futa on Male. I mean did he read the title? With Breeding in the title one would think you can't BREED Males. Also complaining that the Futa didn't have balls. I think he is confusing Futa With Trans. A lot of the reviews were bad but their reasons didn't really talk about the game it self it was mostly about technical stuff and update times. So my question is is the game any good.
 
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