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Cristiany

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dev said that it new update will have female protagonist,why when i start the main history from this new update i can only be male one??
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The best part of the story is that harem fans are complaining about NTR where there is none. MCs don't have any feelings for Rika other than some kind of incomprehensible jealousy, they don't date or get married. So why complain? It's annoying when in a game where the MC mates with everything that moves like a rabbit, if the character paid attention to someone other than the MC, then a tantrum begins. Accept that at least in some game the main character will not be the center of the universe, around which every breath and fart of the surrounding characters revolves.
When you play Battlefield or Counter Strike, you also resent that you are forced to play a shooter, and you would like to build houses like in Minecraft?
It is because of people like you there is no plot in games, except for the route from one hole to another.
As an NTR fan, Rika sneaking off at night to get dicked down by some wolfman even after all the time you spent with her does count as NTR in some form. And yes, I enjoyed the scene too.
 

Soichy

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english isnt my main language, so i might not express myself correctly at times, however i believe on this particular occasion my point was pretty much clear, but let me rephrase it for better understanding. My issue isnt the ntr (or whatever you want to call it, ill keep refering to ntr since it was the tag that was mentioned in this particular situation), every one has its kinks, its not one of my owns, but i dont judge, in fact i believe that the game should have a multitude of choices and offer the max possible of kinks, that influence the overall game universe, my main complain is that the game offers the player the choice of having a ntr route and a non ntr route, wich is great, more choices to story branching and diferent game routes, but regardless of the choice you make you get locked on the ntr route, so if you get locked either way on that linear path, why offer the choice in the first place?
Everyone f*cks everyone in this game. Even the main goal of the game is to f*ck everyone. What kind of NTR can we talk about? As for the lack of choice, I agree, about the real elections - no. There shouldn't be that choice at all, as that's the main plot and goal of the game. And get on with your NTR already. Make it a rule "If there is no official relationship, then no NTR" Or soon you will consider every girl you look at as your property. Even Rika herself answers you with the phrase "If the main character f*cks all day, then why she can't?". So the main problem is not why you were not given a choice, but why were you given it at all, if it is not needed there?

As an NTR fan, Rika sneaking off at night to get dicked down by some wolfman even after all the time you spent with her does count as NTR in some form. And yes, I enjoyed the scene too.
Apparently not the first time and not because she hides from the main character. And in general, their relationship is nothing more than a bed affair. It is difficult to count as NTR. I wish it was like this in real life: you dug up the beds with someone a couple of times, went to the bar once, went for a walk for groceries and you can scream "How dare you sleep with someone else after everything we've had?!")) But even for one such scene in the game, which implies a lot of such scenes, there has already been a whiner who is given a harem in a breeding game. Tired of it already. I don’t come to topics with harems and don’t start to resent that there is no scat and hard fisting with a leg from a chair? So why are they going under the NTR tag to express their indignation that there really is an NTR or whatever it reminds them of it?
 

Big Green

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Everyone f*cks everyone in this game. Even the main goal of the game is to f*ck everyone. What kind of NTR can we talk about? As for the lack of choice, I agree, about the real elections - no. There shouldn't be that choice at all, as that's the main plot and goal of the game. And get on with your NTR already. Make it a rule "If there is no official relationship, then no NTR" Or soon you will consider every girl you look at as your property. Even Rika herself answers you with the phrase "If the main character f*cks all day, then why she can't?". So the main problem is not why you were not given a choice, but why were you given it at all, if it is not needed there?


Apparently not the first time and not because she hides from the main character. And in general, their relationship is nothing more than a bed affair. It is difficult to count as NTR. I wish it was like this in real life: you dug up the beds with someone a couple of times, went to the bar once, went for a walk for groceries and you can scream "How dare you sleep with someone else after everything we've had?!")) But even for one such scene in the game, which implies a lot of such scenes, there has already been a whiner who is given a harem in a breeding game. Tired of it already. I don’t come to topics with harems and don’t start to resent that there is no scat and hard fisting with a leg from a chair? So why are they going under the NTR tag to express their indignation that there really is an NTR or whatever it reminds them of it?
Well first of all i will never understand people that compare real life to some fucking fantasy games made for entertainment.
Let me have my harem, for fuck's sake. But let's make some quick points:

1) Yes it's not an NTR game, people on this forum have vague idea of that tag, but the cheating tag is actually appropriate here, which for some reason the thread doesn't have.

2) Even if you don't want to admit that MC and Rika had some kind of a close relationship, you can't deny that he is helping her and doing way more for her than some random wolfman. Even if everyone fucks in this town, Rika did not. MC was the one who made her feel something again. But i don't get why we have to work hard to get some kind of kiss or HJ but a random wolfman out of nowhere can just dick her for free.

3) The choices suggest that you can have an official relationship with her including some rules about having affairs on the side. But here lies the biggest flaw of the game: choices don't matter at all. I like games where they do matter and you get the consequences of some choice later in the game, but in this particular game it's a rudimental gameplay system. The game is a kinetic novel at it's core.

4) As i said before in this thread the main reason for adding this wolfman encounter was a weak excuse to acquire a transfromation for MC, nothing more.

5) Oh and of course you can only breed monsters with monsters and not take a direct role in the process. So Rika's phrase : "If the main character f*cks all day, then why she can't?", is irrelevant for that playthrough.
 

nnjagnga333

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Quit adding garbage voice acting that pads out the transition time. It's really bad. Stick to text and sound effects.


This is 8 months of development? At this rate the game will be finished in 2030. Since you've committed to a female protagonist you'll have to redo all the story scenes for that too.
 

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Quit adding garbage voice acting that pads out the transition time. It's really bad. Stick to text and sound effects.


This is 8 months of development? At this rate the game will be finished in 2030. Since you've committed to a female protagonist you'll have to redo all the story scenes for that too.
Or add to the story potions that can change gender for the breeding pit, which would be best option in this scenario. Otherwise as you said game won't be finished before 2030 or ever (breeding game curse).

In my case best scenario would be changing Female MC into Rika as breedable female in pit rather then makign whole story again. It would be easier to redesign her now ( female MC breeding pit sex scenes).

PS. and yes vocie acting is pure garbage.
 
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Soichy

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Well first of all i will never understand people that compare real life to some fucking fantasy games made for entertainment.
Let me have my harem, for fuck's sake. But let's make some quick points:
If you do not compare with real life, then there is definitely no NTR here. Zeros and ones of the code of this game cannot cheat on each other))
1) I agree.
2) As we learned from the scene in the forest, Rika too. Just in a secret from everyone. But I agree, the main character really has some affinity with her, but since there are no official relations, then there is no reason to be indignant.
3) I think the game is so early on that there's basically no choice, just placeholders. I hope so far. So yes, there is a linear plot here and it makes no sense to talk about some kind of separate choice if it is not available anywhere. In general, I'm glad that there are at least some plot twists. This is already a lot. It's worth celebrating.
4) It seems to me that this was the reason for adding Rika to the breeding pit. The transformation of the main character into a wolf is not needed at all, if here wolves can be bought by wagons at a discount. Why need another one is not clear. And what's lousy, Rika was never added to the pit, instead they came up with another female character in the game, where there are only 5 male characters, 3 of which are goods.
5) Did you only use monsters to breed? In general, someone used only monsters for breeding? Do not lie to yourself. In this game, most of the animations are with the main character. Everyone is well aware that the main character will take part in the party. Even game characters
 

somethingblue

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Fucked around for a bit with the team's save files, managed to create one where you have one of the new bunny girls (since they seem to be missing from the shop) and an instance of the female breeder as a monster (don't know if that risks breaking something down the line)
You'll need to change its extension back to .json and move it into "AppData/LocalLow/Team Bieno/Breeding Farm/saves"
 
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FruitSmoothie

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This site has it's own NTR definition to avoid confusion. Arguing about the actual definition is pointless.

"NTR [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]"

The only ambiguous shit is "designed to cause jealousy", since that's up to the player. So we're left with "Romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC", which this game appears to have. I think either the definition here should remove the "designed to cause jealousy" bit because that's just adding confusion for no reason (I think "Death of the author" is appropriate here, meaning the dev's intentions don't really matter), or add some more tags to clear things up for certain scenarios. There's like a dozen different versions of NTR/cheating shit. Tags should prioritize warning people about things they want to avoid imo. I'm sure most of you want to be warned when there's scat and guro and lolis and shit, NTR is no different for people not into it.

And for the people about to go "NTR is vague and more difficult to categorize", yeah, that's cause the tags are shit. You don't see me whining about any girl with small breasts being called a loli even when she's clearly an adult, right? The line between guro and ryona and rape and consensual shit is often just as blurry. We can still warn people about it so they can make their own decisions. The only people I see fighting so hard against adding a tag to a game are peeps into NTR, I wonder why that is.

Also, compare the cheating tag with NTR: "Cheating [A significant other having sex with someone other than their partner.]"

It makes it clear that there's a difference between that tag and NTR. Cheating requires the character to be "A significant other" of the MC, meaning NTR does NOT require that the MC and other character are in a relationship. If it did, they would also use "significant other" to describe NTR, and they would be the exact same, lol. Merely being a "Romantic interest" is enough and is enough to differentiate between the two. If we wanted to, we could also hone in on how NTR says "involved with someone other than the MC" versus cheating straight up saying "sex" instead. We could use the NTR tag a LOT more often, lol. But I think most people would agree that is getting a little silly, right?

TLDR: The tag here seems appropriate from what I've seen the event described as.
 
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Big Green

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If you do not compare with real life, then there is definitely no NTR here. Zeros and ones of the code of this game cannot cheat on each other))
1) I agree.
2) As we learned from the scene in the forest, Rika too. Just in a secret from everyone. But I agree, the main character really has some affinity with her, but since there are no official relations, then there is no reason to be indignant.
3) I think the game is so early on that there's basically no choice, just placeholders. I hope so far. So yes, there is a linear plot here and it makes no sense to talk about some kind of separate choice if it is not available anywhere. In general, I'm glad that there are at least some plot twists. This is already a lot. It's worth celebrating.
4) It seems to me that this was the reason for adding Rika to the breeding pit. The transformation of the main character into a wolf is not needed at all, if here wolves can be bought by wagons at a discount. Why need another one is not clear. And what's lousy, Rika was never added to the pit, instead they came up with another female character in the game, where there are only 5 male characters, 3 of which are goods.
5) Did you only use monsters to breed? In general, someone used only monsters for breeding? Do not lie to yourself. In this game, most of the animations are with the main character. Everyone is well aware that the main character will take part in the party. Even game characters
2) I must admit i don't remember that good about wolfman encounter, becuase the plot was weak as fuck and not my cup of a tea, but as far as i remember she started to search for animal dicks after MC's advances. But that is not even the worst thing about the game, the real problem is my 3rd point. I don't care if she is a slut and was hiding it from us. The problem is that i can't turn her down and forget about this whole mess. She is forced onto player no matter what. But the best part is that developers are trolling us showing this fake choice of telling her that you dont want to see Rika again, but in the end you are stuck with her. All character routes are integrated in the main story, so you have to complete them to advance the story. Which is bad and they should be separeted side stories, meaning you can skip some you don't like.

3) I don't think that this being a kinetic novel is due to the game being early in development. The choices we have are just for show, but the whole "NTR plot line" was autor's vision of the game. And it's not like that was the only choice that didn't matter. They are all fake and it was intended. It's like some kind of fake advertising for a new game and i don't get why the couldn't just put a kinetic novel tag and just tell their story.

4) Maybe, but i think there will be some plot and cg scenes later, where they wanted MC to have that transformation (and not in just Rika's path)

5) I didn't say that i personally breed only monsters. I just point that it's a possibility, just like a choice in the game should be a new possibility. So yes you can have that playthrough (like a virgin run in some games).
 

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I can't read all of this stuff right now, but in coming updates, the story/characterization/routes will be tailored so as to not fuck you guys in the ass in terms "This character isn't acting the way they should considering their job as a breeder" as well as "I picked NO to NTR, and yet this Wolfman is fucking my lady Rika!" I get the complaints, alternate dialogue as well as narrative paths need to be written into the game.

I understand the complaints that the game isn't what it should be, I'm gonna work towards bettering it as much as I can, hopefully in larger increments.
 

ukthrowaway69

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Quit adding garbage voice acting that pads out the transition time. It's really bad. Stick to text and sound effects.


This is 8 months of development? At this rate the game will be finished in 2030. Since you've committed to a female protagonist you'll have to redo all the story scenes for that too.
Your comment is a bit rude but completely correct, it makes update times too long and it's more of a feature creep than good for the game, a lot of porn games don't have audio or only have stock hentai sounds, because nobody is fussed with VA. If anything it's jarring when it does happen

I can't read all of this stuff right now, but in coming updates, the story/characterization/routes will be tailored so as to not fuck you guys in the ass in terms "This character isn't acting the way they should considering their job as a breeder" as well as "I picked NO to NTR, and yet this Wolfman is fucking my lady Rika!" I get the complaints, alternate dialogue as well as narrative paths need to be written into the game.

I understand the complaints that the game isn't what it should be, I'm gonna work towards bettering it as much as I can, hopefully in larger increments.
You could probably make a skip button or something like that, I honestly don't see why people get so riled up about it, the game has a skip button in the settings at the least, and at the most it's a porn game so writing and plot isn't exactly required to be S class and expansive (I think the writing/plot is alright, but it's like watching a porno for the plot)
 

Soichy

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2) I must admit i don't remember that good about wolfman encounter...
2) In the plot, Rika had a wolf partner when she herself worked as a breeder on a farm. After that, she developed this habit. Revisit this moment if you wish. There is a whole dramatic love story there) And there, just full of cuckold and NTR.
3) A dozen animations have appeared here in 8 months, and you are talking about a whole branched system of dialogues that will influence the development of the plot) Moderate your desires)
4) This cg scenes already exist, but as I said, they are not needed, since there are already wolves in this game. Why make a wolf out of the main character? Such a variety in the scenes. Most likely, the author of this game, like many other authors, is afraid of opponents of NTR, who see NTR in everything and begin to spoil the rating of the game. Therefore, more and more female characters and lesbian scenes begin to appear. Nobody is outraged about lesbians.
5) See point 3)

This site has it's own NTR definition to avoid confusion. Arguing about the actual definition is pointless...
Everything is easier. The "cheating" tag here applies to the main character having sex with someone other than the heroine, unless there is a "harem" tag. The "NTR" tag for a heroine who has sex with someone other than the main character. That is, any character in the game who is seen in a relationship NOT with the main character is likely to fall under the "NTR" tag, and the "cheating" tag is easily canceled by the "Harem" tag.

I can't read all of this stuff right now, but in coming updates, the story/characterization/routes will be tailored so as to not fuck you guys in the ass in terms "This character isn't acting the way they should considering their job as a breeder" as well as "I picked NO to NTR, and yet this Wolfman is fucking my lady Rika!" I get the complaints, alternate dialogue as well as narrative paths need to be written into the game.

I understand the complaints that the game isn't what it should be, I'm gonna work towards bettering it as much as I can, hopefully in larger increments.
Just don't turn this game into a harem. Please. Let everything stay as it is. Let everything continue to be a whore island)
 

AlexTorch

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Is the gay content avoidable/optional/able to switch off?
You can put the mc or any male monster in the breeding pen and have sex, but until the last update there was no animation, you can choose to avoid or not. Other than the breeding pen there is no other gay sex (at least until the last update).
 
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