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Marvoch

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Agreed on both fronts - to critique the amount of filler dialogue here isn't necessarily wrong, it's just curious given that I could find any number of - usually japanese style games come to mind - with LOADS of annoying filler dialogue and internal monologues, saying much about nothing.

Tony is mostly tolerable on the non-tony path, the only scene that really was jarring for me was the limo drive --> hotel --> airplane. The tone and dialogue on that made no sense on a non-tony blackmail path, everything about it felt very designed from the ground up for the with-tony path. He wouldn't even need more renders, it just needs more dialogue switches to make it flow otherwise. Stuff like having Lara chat with Mike before leaving, then in the limo have her acting more standoffish like it's a chore for work and less like a undercover call girl.

As my earlier post, only strong critique would be if a player is on the non-tony path and has Lara get it on with the ceo, tony still butts in anyway. it makes no sense, and it would have been nice to have an "ntr lite" path ABSENT TONY. But I guess we can't have that, he has plot armor that allows him to command his own ceo.
The problem I have with the game, or at least with the part I experienced, isn’t the amount of dialogue; it’s the quality of it. Especially those bits where the narrator just keeps going on and on with super corny lines in awkward English that add nothing to the scene, or those long-ass inner thoughts from the character that literally just describe what we’re already seeing. I’ve got no issue with filler dialogue; I actually like watching characters interact, even when the plot isn’t moving or the interaction is just everyday stuff. Even infodumps (since we are talking about Japonese VNs, of which I’m not even a fan tbh) are fine if they’re well written. But this? Yeah, not hitting the mark so far.

Since DoubleDabbler was kind enough to inform me that the writing quality stays the same throughout the whole thing, I’ll just drop it. I'm not saying the game was uninteresting in itself, but it just wasn’t interesting enough, with all those tired tropes I describe earlier, to make up for the writing, at least for me.

P.S.: I don’t like NTR, but I’ve got nothing against it either, so Tony wasn’t a big concern personally. Honestly, Lara was way worse as a character for me. I liked her as an antagonist, I didn't like her as a love interest. But those are personal tastes.
 

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The problem I have with the game, or at least with the part I experienced, isn’t the amount of dialogue; it’s the quality of it. Especially those bits where the narrator just keeps going on and on with super corny lines in awkward English that add nothing to the scene, or those long-ass inner thoughts from the character that literally just describe what we’re already seeing. I’ve got no issue with filler dialogue; I actually like watching characters interact, even when the plot isn’t moving or the interaction is just everyday stuff. Even infodumps (since we are talking about Japonese VNs, of which I’m not even a fan tbh) are fine if they’re well written. But this? Yeah, not hitting the mark so far.

Since DoubleDabbler was kind enough to inform me that the writing quality stays the same throughout the whole thing, I’ll just drop it. I'm not saying the game was uninteresting in itself, but it just wasn’t interesting enough, with all those tired tropes I describe earlier, to make up for the writing, at least for me.

P.S.: I don’t like NTR, but I’ve got nothing against it either, so Tony wasn’t a big concern personally. Honestly, Lara was way worse as a character for me. I liked her as an antagonist, I didn't like her as a love interest. But those are personal tastes.
Gotcha. That is a thing I had forgotten about. The game could really benefit from an English-first language editor. There are regular mistranslations and malapropisms. And dad jokes are a running theme.

Lara is bitchy before improving the relationship but pretty hot on the cuckqueen route. Already so hot with so much untapped potential. But totally get if you don't want to stick it out.
 

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I'd still say Tony is pretty jarring and out of place most of the time on non-NTR. He's still pressuring Lara about the way she dresses and buying her clothes, which on the non-NTR, if that must be done, it should be Lara's choice or from Miranda's encouragment. You get a couple moments of her firmly turning him down but it just keeps happening and Lara's usually at best mildly suspicious of his intentions for how much of a track record he has.

Him showing up at the birthday party for his employee's husband's uninvited? Just imagine that IRL. You throw a party. RSVPs don't come. Then some uninvited guy shows up to say he kept them from coming but we're all going to be pretty chill about it because he apolgiezes in the same breath? If you need him there for NTR or the cheating suspicions have him show up as a plus one for someone Lara actually would invite or come by on the pretense of dropping off a work thing. As it is, it's completely perposterous that he is there and every one is so unbothered by it.

Are there actual sub paths for the NTR? It seemed from mildly looking into that once it began Lara pretty much had no choice as to continue or with who. For being tagged "female protagonist" she doesn't get the same degrees of freedom. If both her and MC could turn down any potential sex anyone could create any pathway they want, even if it makes less content for them.
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Right? I'm trying to play another game and despite being pretty well rendered the dialogue is so stupid. That's not even an opinion. Like LI says "I'd like to keep it casual now" and MC thinks I guess she wants to keep it casual now. And there is so much of it. I post to ask if it gets better and no one seems to know what I am talking about.
some/many play these games for sexscenes so dialogue doesn't matter.
 

DoubleDabbler

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some/many play these games for sexscenes so dialogue doesn't matter.
True and T4boo is pushing the boundaries on improving renders and scenes. Just surprised to see so many egregiously worse games dialogue-wise to go completely unflagged and this one get called out.
 

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The game could really benefit from an English-first language editor. There are regular mistranslations and malapropisms.
What is a "malapropisms"? Is a disease? Is a machine? Is a flying dutchman? :cool:
We are all "lost in translation", also the writers of the stories. Just my two cent
 

DoubleDabbler

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What is a "malapropisms"? Is a disease? Is a machine? Is a flying dutchman? :cool:
We are all "lost in translation", also the writers of the stories. Just my two cent
You have the internet, no? JK :giggle:

"The mistaken use of a word in place of a similar-sounding one, often with unilaterally amusing effect."

I know translation is hard. For having some of the best renders and plots ever this game is one of the most riddled with errors for a western game. All the errors really interrupt the flow of the story for me (maybe not others/most?), and any native speaker of English as an editor/proof reader would have caught them.
 

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Edit: Updated for 0.1.3


I've made a mod for this game
  • Scene replay gallery remade
  • Edited some dialogue options where there are 2 paths so both are visible
  • Cheats button added to top right corner when playing
  • Best dialogue options colored green
Download: MEGA PIXELDRAIN
It's been almost two weeks - mod abandoned, or just real life and/or higher priority mods getting in the way?
 

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You have the internet, no? JK :giggle:

"The mistaken use of a word in place of a similar-sounding one, often with unilaterally amusing effect."

I know translation is hard. For having some of the best renders and plots ever this game is one of the most riddled with errors for a western game. All the errors really interrupt the flow of the story for me (maybe not others/most?), and any native speaker of English as an editor/proof reader would have caught them.
Can you give some examples in the bugs report channel? Most of the game scripts were originally written and proofread by native speakers; only recently have I started using AI to write them. I’m still willing to hire a proofreader to go through the entire game, especially before the Steam release. The game scripts are not translated into English — they are written directly in English and are only now being translated into other languages.
 

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Can you give some examples in the bugs report channel? Most of the game scripts were originally written and proofread by native speakers; only recently have I started using AI to write them. I’m still willing to hire a proofreader to go through the entire game, especially before the Steam release. The game scripts are not translated into English — they are written directly in English and are only now being translated into other languages.
How did you train the AI to write the script? Did you explain the lore of the game to it?
 
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I just finished version 1.4 and cannot praise this VN enough, wonderful renders, fantastic animations and good writing in an interesting setting :love:(y)
I understand the structure and the development of the different paths, but I had perfered at least a little bit of drama on the Tyrone path. After he had fun with Lara and Angelica months go past and they never met, never had any conflict with the male MC ? I think it is a missed opportunity, but this is the only complain I have.
Keep up the amazing work T4bbo (y)
 
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