Ren'Py Burning Boundaries [v0.1.4] [T4bbo]

[Marvoch]

I tried to get into it, but the writing was just... dry, kinda cringe at times, and honestly exhausting. All that never-ending prattling on what the characters were doing or feeling just killed the vibe for me. I never skip dialogue, but I did here. I usually love wordy VNs, but this one really pushed it past my limit. Combine that with a story that wasn’t even that interesting (the love life of a super perfect guy with the looks, the money, the skill, a perfect job and a great talker on top of that), and yeah, it was tough to keep going.

I'm at the post-dinner in the hotel when Tony went to MC and Lara's table. I think there is still a lot of content after this point, so... does it get better in the writing department later on?

 

[JimmyRobbzz1222]

Now having fun with his 1st game, Babysitter, the goal is to re-create some key renders and re-done few animations plus main/teasing/spicy static scenes. First, trying to make characters more alive, so I can animate them, otherwise it will look a bit creepy. Also not pushing too hard, so all renders and overall picture looks close to original, I'm not even touching any upscales and quality restorations, so it can look like one game and doesn't break overall imagination+atmosphere of the original story.

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working on spa scene, focusing Jessica, 3-5 min long video.

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the original should be re-made entirely like this

 

[DoubleDabbler]

I tried to get into it, but the writing was just... dry, kinda cringe at times, and honestly exhausting. All that never-ending prattling on what the characters were doing or feeling just killed the vibe for me. I never skip dialogue, but I did here. I usually love wordy VNs, but this one really pushed it past my limit. Combine that with a story that wasn’t even that interesting (the love life of a super perfect guy with the looks, the money, the skill, a perfect job and a great talker on top of that), and yeah, it was tough to keep going.

I'm at the post-dinner in the hotel when Tony went to MC and Lara's table. I think there is still a lot of content after this point, so... does it get better in the writing department later on?

I get your dialogue complaints but in my experience this is one of the least offending games for ineffectual tedious dialogue. I think there continues to be about the same amount of internal monologue but they maybe talk about their respective feelings less if the relationship is improving.

If you are bringing up that scene because of Tony, then yeah Tony shows up a lot and we get a lot of his internal monologue and then his conversations with Lara even if you don't have NTR. I skip through a lot of that and also a lot of the the Lara news segments that are all just amping the amount of leg she is showing. If you have NTR OFF those are pretty pointless left over from it being designed primarily (~60%) for NTR.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I get your dialogue complaints but in my experience this is one of the least offending games for ineffectual tedious dialogue. I think there continues to be about the same amount of internal monologue but they maybe talk about their respective feelings and the relationship if it is improving.

If you are bringing up that scene because of Tony, then yeah Tony shows up a lot and we get a lot of his internal monologue and then his conversations with Lara even if you don't have NTR. I skip through a lot of that and also a lot of the the Lara news segments that are all just amping the amount of leg she is showing. If you have NTR OFF those are pretty pointless left over from it being designed primarily (~60%) for NTR.

Agreed on both fronts - to critique the amount of filler dialogue here isn't necessarily wrong, it's just curious given that I could find any number of - usually japanese style games come to mind - with LOADS of annoying filler dialogue and internal monologues, saying much about nothing.

Tony is mostly tolerable on the non-tony path, the only scene that really was jarring for me was the limo drive --> hotel --> airplane. The tone and dialogue on that made no sense on a non-tony blackmail path, everything about it felt very designed from the ground up for the with-tony path. He wouldn't even need more renders, it just needs more dialogue switches to make it flow otherwise. Stuff like having Lara chat with Mike before leaving, then in the limo have her acting more standoffish like it's a chore for work and less like a undercover call girl.

As my earlier post, only strong critique would be if a player is on the non-tony path and has Lara get it on with the ceo, tony still butts in anyway. it makes no sense, and it would have been nice to have an "ntr lite" path ABSENT TONY. But I guess we can't have that, he has plot armor that allows him to command his own ceo.

 

[Filipis]

As my earlier post, only strong critique would be if a player is on the non-tony path and has Lara get it on with the ceo, tony still butts in anyway. it makes no sense, and it would have been nice to have an "ntr lite" path ABSENT TONY. But I guess we can't have that, he has plot armor that allows him to command his own ceo.

He has the Patreon support, at whose altar the dev prays every night. This game isn't made by his vision, but by their whims.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

He has the Patreon support, at whose altar the dev prays every night. This game isn't made by his vision, but by their whims.

I need some copium

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[Rupertvangog]

the original should be re-made entirely like this

That would be very expensive, Ill say around couple of thousand bucks)) to generate it locally it would take a few years plus dozen of burn out 5090s D, so paid services only.

 

[JimmyRobbzz1222]

That would be very expensive, Ill say around couple of thousand bucks)) to generate it locally it would take a few years plus dozen of burn out 5090s D, so paid services only.

Should, not will.

 

[N0madS0uL]

This game is still hands-down the most impressive of VN games I have played, simply due to its visuals alone, add the plot, the kinks and beautiful LIs...this should be the poster child, the standard for all adult VNs.

 

[tarzan999]

This game is still hands-down the most impressive of VN games I have played, simply due to its visuals alone, add the plot, the kinks and beautiful LIs...this should be the poster child, the standard for all adult VNs.

Milfy City is imo overall slighly better. I guess that it depends on which kinks you are more into. Back in the day Big Brother was the standard, but it was riddled with too much grind.

 

[cxx]

Is there an android version?

tried searching thread if not in op?

 

[_JohnnyBravo_]

Milfy City is imo overall slighly better. I guess that it depends on which kinks you are more into. Back in the day Big Brother was the standard, but it was riddled with too much grind.

I was just a lurker, but I had to register to react man... I supported Milfy City in the beginning, but stopped as it turned out to be one of the biggest milking games in history - it should be called Milking City. I guess you're into incest/harems little bit too much to overlook how bad the game turned out to be. User Kapycs has pretty on point reviews and he gave it 3 stars, where strongest part are renders and those renders are still lightyears away from this game... don't even compare writing - especially build up, animations and cumshots, this game is in it's own league.

 

[tarzan999]

I was just a lurker, but I had to register to react man... I supported Milfy City in the beginning, but stopped as it turned out to be one of the biggest milking games in history - it should be called Milking City. I guess you're into incest/harems little bit too much to overlook how bad the game turned out to be. User Kapycs has pretty on point reviews and he gave it 3 stars, where strongest part are renders and those renders are still lightyears away from this game... don't even compare writing - especially build up, animations and cumshots, this game is in it's own league.

When it comes to porn every player likes different things. You criticize the writing, but my only memories of MC are the awesome scenes with the sisters where they would show off their bodies to the MC and eventually hj, bj, anal, vaginal etc and some other popular vanilla games that try to tell an actual story but without incest, corruption etc kinks bore me to death. The text just doesn't stick with me.

Meanwhile outside of porn I have always been the biggest hater of the MCU from day 1 when it was mega popular even in my friends group because the writing has always been contrived, light and garbage despite all of the special effects and action scenes.

 

[DoubleDabbler]

Agreed on both fronts - to critique the amount of filler dialogue here isn't necessarily wrong, it's just curious given that I could find any number of - usually japanese style games come to mind - with LOADS of annoying filler dialogue and internal monologues, saying much about nothing.

Tony is mostly tolerable on the non-tony path, the only scene that really was jarring for me was the limo drive --> hotel --> airplane. The tone and dialogue on that made no sense on a non-tony blackmail path, everything about it felt very designed from the ground up for the with-tony path. He wouldn't even need more renders, it just needs more dialogue switches to make it flow otherwise. Stuff like having Lara chat with Mike before leaving, then in the limo have her acting more standoffish like it's a chore for work and less like a undercover call girl.

As my earlier post, only strong critique would be if a player is on the non-tony path and has Lara get it on with the ceo, tony still butts in anyway. it makes no sense, and it would have been nice to have an "ntr lite" path ABSENT TONY. But I guess we can't have that, he has plot armor that allows him to command his own ceo.

Right? I'm trying to play another game and despite being pretty well rendered the dialogue is so stupid. That's not even an opinion. Like LI says "I'd like to keep it casual now" and MC thinks I guess she wants to keep it casual now. And there is so much of it. I post to ask if it gets better and no one seems to know what I am talking about.

Then to come here, where apart for Lara/Tony stuff, the game flows very smoothly imo and see a dialogue complaint for this game?

I'd still say Tony is pretty jarring and out of place most of the time on non-NTR. He's still pressuring Lara about the way she dresses and buying her clothes, which on the non-NTR, if that must be done, it should be Lara's choice or from Miranda's encouragment. You get a couple moments of her firmly turning him down but it just keeps happening and Lara's usually at best mildly suspicious of his intentions for how much of a track record he has.

Him showing up at the birthday party for his employee's husband's uninvited? Just imagine that IRL. You throw a party. RSVPs don't come. Then some uninvited guy shows up to say he kept them from coming but we're all going to be pretty chill about it because he apolgiezes in the same breath? If you need him there for NTR or the cheating suspicions have him show up as a plus one for someone Lara actually would invite or come by on the pretense of dropping off a work thing. As it is, it's completely perposterous that he is there and every one is so unbothered by it.

Are there actual sub paths for the NTR? It seemed from mildly looking into that once it began Lara pretty much had no choice as to continue or with who. For being tagged "female protagonist" she doesn't get the same degrees of freedom. If both her and MC could turn down any potential sex anyone could create any pathway they want, even if it makes less content for them.

 

[Marvoch]

Agreed on both fronts - to critique the amount of filler dialogue here isn't necessarily wrong, it's just curious given that I could find any number of - usually japanese style games come to mind - with LOADS of annoying filler dialogue and internal monologues, saying much about nothing.

Tony is mostly tolerable on the non-tony path, the only scene that really was jarring for me was the limo drive --> hotel --> airplane. The tone and dialogue on that made no sense on a non-tony blackmail path, everything about it felt very designed from the ground up for the with-tony path. He wouldn't even need more renders, it just needs more dialogue switches to make it flow otherwise. Stuff like having Lara chat with Mike before leaving, then in the limo have her acting more standoffish like it's a chore for work and less like a undercover call girl.

As my earlier post, only strong critique would be if a player is on the non-tony path and has Lara get it on with the ceo, tony still butts in anyway. it makes no sense, and it would have been nice to have an "ntr lite" path ABSENT TONY. But I guess we can't have that, he has plot armor that allows him to command his own ceo.

The problem I have with the game, or at least with the part I experienced, isn’t the amount of dialogue; it’s the quality of it. Especially those bits where the narrator just keeps going on and on with super corny lines in awkward English that add nothing to the scene, or those long-ass inner thoughts from the character that literally just describe what we’re already seeing. I’ve got no issue with filler dialogue; I actually like watching characters interact, even when the plot isn’t moving or the interaction is just everyday stuff. Even infodumps (since we are talking about Japonese VNs, of which I’m not even a fan tbh) are fine if they’re well written. But this? Yeah, not hitting the mark so far.

Since DoubleDabbler was kind enough to inform me that the writing quality stays the same throughout the whole thing, I’ll just drop it. I'm not saying the game was uninteresting in itself, but it just wasn’t interesting enough, with all those tired tropes I describe earlier, to make up for the writing, at least for me.

P.S.: I don’t like NTR, but I’ve got nothing against it either, so Tony wasn’t a big concern personally. Honestly, Lara was way worse as a character for me. I liked her as an antagonist, I didn't like her as a love interest. But those are personal tastes.

 

[Joshy92]

I guess after this update, you can call me Sir-tongue-a-lot

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I guess after this update, you can call me Sir-tongue-a-lot

You are quite the fast talker!


(how mad r u i pre-empted your humiliation talk bait)

 

[DoubleDabbler]

The problem I have with the game, or at least with the part I experienced, isn’t the amount of dialogue; it’s the quality of it. Especially those bits where the narrator just keeps going on and on with super corny lines in awkward English that add nothing to the scene, or those long-ass inner thoughts from the character that literally just describe what we’re already seeing. I’ve got no issue with filler dialogue; I actually like watching characters interact, even when the plot isn’t moving or the interaction is just everyday stuff. Even infodumps (since we are talking about Japonese VNs, of which I’m not even a fan tbh) are fine if they’re well written. But this? Yeah, not hitting the mark so far.

Since DoubleDabbler was kind enough to inform me that the writing quality stays the same throughout the whole thing, I’ll just drop it. I'm not saying the game was uninteresting in itself, but it just wasn’t interesting enough, with all those tired tropes I describe earlier, to make up for the writing, at least for me.

P.S.: I don’t like NTR, but I’ve got nothing against it either, so Tony wasn’t a big concern personally. Honestly, Lara was way worse as a character for me. I liked her as an antagonist, I didn't like her as a love interest. But those are personal tastes.

Gotcha. That is a thing I had forgotten about. The game could really benefit from an English-first language editor. There are regular mistranslations and malapropisms. And dad jokes are a running theme.

Lara is bitchy before improving the relationship but pretty hot on the cuckqueen route. Already so hot with so much untapped potential. But totally get if you don't want to stick it out.

 

[Maviarab]

I'd still say Tony is pretty jarring and out of place most of the time on non-NTR. He's still pressuring Lara about the way she dresses and buying her clothes, which on the non-NTR, if that must be done, it should be Lara's choice or from Miranda's encouragment. You get a couple moments of her firmly turning him down but it just keeps happening and Lara's usually at best mildly suspicious of his intentions for how much of a track record he has.

Him showing up at the birthday party for his employee's husband's uninvited? Just imagine that IRL. You throw a party. RSVPs don't come. Then some uninvited guy shows up to say he kept them from coming but we're all going to be pretty chill about it because he apolgiezes in the same breath? If you need him there for NTR or the cheating suspicions have him show up as a plus one for someone Lara actually would invite or come by on the pretense of dropping off a work thing. As it is, it's completely perposterous that he is there and every one is so unbothered by it.

Are there actual sub paths for the NTR? It seemed from mildly looking into that once it began Lara pretty much had no choice as to continue or with who. For being tagged "female protagonist" she doesn't get the same degrees of freedom. If both her and MC could turn down any potential sex anyone could create any pathway they want, even if it makes less content for them.

 

[Joshy92]

You are quite the fast talker!


(how mad r u i pre-empted your humiliation talk bait)

It has nothing to do with humiliation.

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See that's where it came from.