Herpeton

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Steam seems to be very arbitrary with how they apply their "rules." They claim to be against non-consensual sex acts (and I'm ok with that, personally) yet they have kinetic stories on their site where men a forcibly sodomized routinely. I really don't understand what their standards are and how they are applied.

Honestly, I don't know how an AVN author can keep up with the Steam policies; perhaps that's by design.
I think it's mostly what they find or get so negative backlash that they have to do something. I've played 2 games that are on Steam that have non-consensual sex, one is few scenes with violence (Dessert Stalkers) and another one where you have the chance to enter in a room of one girl and having sex with her while she is sleeping (knightly Passions).
 

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I think it's mostly what they find or get so negative backlash that they have to do something. I've played 2 games that are on Steam that have non-consensual sex, one is few scenes with violence (Dessert Stalkers) and another one where you have the chance to enter in a room of one girl and having sex with her while she is sleeping (knightly Passions).
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if you want to see an example of what I was describing. If only to me, that kinetic story is founded upon forced activity and not at all upon the MC's consent.
 
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if you want to see an example of what I was describing. If only to me, that kinetic story is founded upon forced activity and not at all upon the MC's consent.
Haha that's even worse and is in Steam.

Another thing I don't get is the baby blurred face. LWT 1&2 have a kid that is perfectly visible without blurring face and in both games + this one the kid is not present in any scene where there is any sexual activity, once again what I think, what they find or get negative backlash.
 
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Real question here, how the heck do I avoid Tyrone completely for all the women? Not a BBC trope fan and the yoga scene with Angelica came out of nowhere. I even had NTR disabled on cheats. What am I missing?
 

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Real question here, how the heck do I avoid Tyrone completely for all the women? Not a BBC trope fan and the yoga scene with Angelica came out of nowhere. I even had NTR disabled on cheats. What am I missing?
I've never done a game where I'm not on one of Angelicas paths, so I'm assuming here that she will always get him if she can't get the MC? So just be on one of her paths and then problem solved?

If you mean the session with Lara though and are confusing the names, then just avoid the sexual options with him during it, and then he won't reappear much after that. At least I never saw him again really in any of my games after doing so.
 
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I've never done a game where I'm not on one of Angelicas paths, so I'm assuming here that she will always get him if she can't get the MC? So just be on one of her paths and then problem solved?

If you mean the session with Lara though and are confusing the names, then just avoid the sexual options with him during it, and then he won't reappear much after that. At least I never saw him again really in any of my games after doing so.
I jacked up Angelica's stats to max to test and sure enough, he disappears. Weird, I was using a walkthrough and chose all of her positive options but still the BBC showed up

I guess I can just cheat all the stats to max and have fun that way lol
 

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I jacked up Angelica's stats to max to test and sure enough, he disappears. Weird, I was using a walkthrough and chose all of her positive options but still the BBC showed up

I guess I can just cheat all the stats to max and have fun that way lol
Watch out though, Angelica actually has another path thats ties in with having negative points as well. She basically has two paths in the form of 'Sugar Daddy' vs 'Strict Daddy' And tbh, I think Strict is a waaaaaaaaay better path. :ROFLMAO:

So if you're new, make sure you give it a try as well alongside the sugar one, and see for yourself. (y)
 
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Watch out though, Angelica actually has another path thats ties in with having negative points as well. She basically has two paths in the form of 'Sugar Daddy' vs 'Strict Daddy' And tbh, I think Strict is a waaaaaaaaay better path. :ROFLMAO:

So if you're new, make sure you give it a try as well alongside the sugar one, and see for yourself. (y)
Yea, I'm seeing that, what a confusing mess of choices. It's frustrating trying to figure out how to avoid certain things.

Also, is it me, or does the tone seem to change in the current part of the game? idk, was digging the first half but then it started getting a bit ..ehhh for me.
 
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Yea, I'm seeing that, what a confusing mess of choices. It's frustrating trying to figure out how to avoid certain things.

Also, is it me, or does the tone seem to change in the current part of the game? idk, was digging the first half but then it started getting a bit ..ehhh for me.
Probably because the game was originally called 'Babysitters' and was supposed to be a bit more about that as such. But then idk what happened. Dev changed his mind due to the feedback he was getting (fucking Tony fanbois...:mad:) or his own view changed, IDK. But then the name was changed and the original vision clearly went with it. So maybe that's what you're feeling.
 
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holy shit, that's why Tony is so forced even on the non-NTR path? Yikes, what a mess. Someone had warned me about this in another thread LOL but I figured "it can't be that bad..."

narrator: it was that bad.

Oh well, a scene collector it is then. at least the models are hot.
 

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holy shit, that's why Tony is so forced even on the non-NTR path? Yikes, what a mess. Someone had warned me about this in another thread LOL but I figured "it can't be that bad..."

narrator: it was that bad.

Oh well, a scene collector it is then. at least the models are hot.
Oh it's a well known fact that this game has a section of fans, that would genuinely prefer if Tony was the MC. And they pretty much already treat him as such anyway.

You can even browse this thread and go back a little bit. You can actully find that the Dev even held a poll on his discord/patreon not too long ago, (not sure which exactly) about whether it would be okay to exclude him for one update. And it was only approved by one vote...:ROFLMAO:
 

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Real question here, how the heck do I avoid Tyrone completely for all the women? Not a BBC trope fan and the yoga scene with Angelica came out of nowhere. I even had NTR disabled on cheats. What am I missing?
Walkthrough mode is probably broken... I don't know, I didn't create it and I didn't check it... but in regular game Tyrone path is locked if you turned off NTR for sure.

Tyrone path is opened only on Sugar Daddy route when you try to prohibit Angelica to do LonelyFans and it backfires... but only if NTR is OFF.
 

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Real question here, how the heck do I avoid Tyrone completely for all the women? Not a BBC trope fan and the yoga scene with Angelica came out of nowhere. I even had NTR disabled on cheats. What am I missing?
Was it my walkthrough mod or Scappy's? If it was mine I'll take a look.
 

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Devs that have completed a (good) full game and put out a lot of content like this are unusual, clearly dealing with steam and patreon is difficult. I just want to see all the next chunks of the story we've waited a long time for
 
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Oh it's a well known fact that this game has a section of fans, that would genuinely prefer if Tony was the MC. And they pretty much already treat him as such anyway.

You can even browse this thread and go back a little bit. You can actully find that the Dev even held a poll on his discord/patreon not too long ago, (not sure which exactly) about whether it would be okay to exclude him for one update. And it was only approved by one vote...:ROFLMAO:
But isn't that kinda consistent for proponents of the three-letter genre? They insert as the bull so they may celebrate destroying the MMC/FMC relationship and then revel in all the suffering "they" are causing?

Not saying that "all" of those fans think that way but there sure seems to be a core group of vocal posters who do. Perhaps the vocal minority drowns out the silent majority?

From what I've seen, whenever any dev offers a poll where that three-letter genre is mentioned, the howler monkeys descend from the walls, vote en masse as a block, and alter the path of the game to align with the genre, whether it began that way or not. It rarely ends well (for me, at least).
 

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we absolutly need to see miranda leave her husband and come to live with us where she become pregnant with our baby and we continu to cuck lara with all the others girls with huge baby bump execpt her my dream
 

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Oh it's a well known fact that this game has a section of fans, that would genuinely prefer if Tony was the MC. And they pretty much already treat him as such anyway.

You can even browse this thread and go back a little bit. You can actully find that the Dev even held a poll on his discord/patreon not too long ago, (not sure which exactly) about whether it would be okay to exclude him for one update. And it was only approved by one vote...:ROFLMAO:
I'm the polar opposite of those guys. I love seeing him getting rejected over and over. He gets so mad and frustrated :D :LOL: :ROFLMAO:
 

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All these devs bending over backwards, sideways and upside-down to get a steam release and constantly delaying new content as a result is getting real old.

So, one keeps watering-down one's game in order to get steam's approval?
In the end what's left? Is it even going to resemble the original concept?
And what if after doing all that re-writing, re-rendering and deleting scenes, steam still rejects the game?

Seems like a huge time sink for potentially nothing at all.
 

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Walkthrough mode is probably broken... I don't know, I didn't create it and I didn't check it... but in regular game Tyrone path is locked if you turned off NTR for sure.

Tyrone path is opened only on Sugar Daddy route when you try to prohibit Angelica to do LonelyFans and it backfires... but only if NTR is OFF.
Does that happen by default if NTR is off? Even if Lara doesn't hook up with him? Because what's he doing at their place when he's only Lara's yoga instructor? Giving her home lessons?
 
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