I think that's all of the secret lore though, atleast what we can speculate with what the game gives us. There's a worn out journal that appears after 50(?)WC but Nunu is always teasing me with it's contents. There's also normal stuff that happens before the reunion with the girls, but they are pretty mundane AFAIK.
And there's also spoilers that Nunu has given previously in old comments, though I absolutely refused to even glance at them. That's cheating and no fun. (And depending on the spoiler, probably outdated?) anyways. My comment ended up being a lot longer that I expected, lol.
You're GOATED Blake. This is really interesting. Has anyone recorded what the Babysitter says in her interactions with you? I did see her once via the menu but can't remember what she said, and I only got to choose 1 of the 4 options of course.
Also I forgot to say this in the previous one, but it seems relatively clear to me that the MC isn't aware of the loop (we read his thoughts and he is still surprised by the same things), and combining this with the fact that the Babysitter speaks directly to the Player, it seems that the reason the MC can do different things everything loop regardless of corruption is because we are controlling him, and we are part of the story. I.e. the story breaks the 4th wall.
i don't understand. i can't use the camera on the note. I gave the note to cassidy and Alex on previous routes, but the option is not there. It has to be on some combination of levels or something? because i just can't get pass this.
You're GOATED Blake. This is really interesting. Has anyone recorded what the Babysitter says in her interactions with you? I did see her once via the menu but can't remember what she said, and I only got to choose 1 of the 4 options of course.
Also I forgot to say this in the previous one, but it seems relatively clear to me that the MC isn't aware of the loop (we read his thoughts and he is still surprised by the same things), and combining this with the fact that the Babysitter speaks directly to the Player, it seems that the reason the MC can do different things everything loop regardless of corruption is because we are controlling him, and we are part of the story. I.e. the story breaks the 4th wall.
hehe~ I've always enjoyed secret lore like this so I tend to create my own theories and try to archive everything about it, it really reminds me of peak Gravity falls in a way. (DELTARUNE 4 DAYS AGO BABY)
I remember archiving the questions and the answers, but never actually posted the quotes. I still have the save and the version it works on, so I can try to do it again. (Future me here. I checked the Wiki, but appears that the secret lore is, in fact. Secret. So here it is the interactions with her. Surprisingly the exploit still works on recent versions, though it will crash after picking an option. probably because its an older save)
Pretty sure I've gotten the other two encounters on my current save so I won't be able to archive them in here.
And Yes. MC is completely oblivious to things looping and probably always will be. Talking from a meta standpoint Nunu has made it really REALLY clear about their opinions on consent (See Lin's comment about MC and Carla and that one scene of Sami and Alex that had to be rewritten multiple times) and I feel that MC doing the things he does knowing he can just loop back would make his actions too rapey.
LOL. I was pretty active back then and Lisa tends to make people ask around here about her puzzles, even though I answered them two comments before, sorry about that lol.
But answering your question. you don't "Give" the note to Lisa. Lisa takes it from you.
When opening the suitcase the game checks if you solved the code or if you have the Altered Note, Then she catches MC opening the suitcase and when asking "May I ask what you think you're doing?" you are given some options.
IF you DON't have the code, then you'll only get "Lin gave me permission" and "It's for a quest"
IF you HAVE the code then you'll be able to choose "I solved your puzzle" MC will take out the note and show it to her but with a twist. Turns out that what Cassidy said was true and it has a secret message inside.
After failing the quest in that loop you need to start a new one, but because of Looping shenanigans you now remember to alter the note. To do that you only have to grab the note, witness Lina's camera working and ask for Lina's help under the tree, all in the same loop, no need to go with the other girls. Then, you choose again "I solved your puzzle" and you'll give her the altered note.
Keep in mind that because of a bug on recent versions it is currently impossible to have the code (Since Haily hint gets skipped automatically) and by extension the option to give Lisa the note as an excuse. I recommend you to go to page 134 on this forum for the patch that Nunu dropped a few weeks ago that fixed Hailey.
In short: Get the note > talk to Cassidy about the note > Then talk to Alex about the note. > Then talk to Hailey under the tree about the note to get the code > Unlock the suitcase with the code > Use the Note as an excuse > Fail the quest. > New loop > Get the note > See Lina's camera working > Ask for Lina's help > Unlock the suitcase with the code > use the note as an excuse again > ??? > Profit
hehe~ I've always enjoyed secret lore like this so I tend to create my own theories and try to archive everything about it, it really reminds me of peak Gravity falls in a way. (DELTARUNE 4 DAYS AGO BABY)
I remember archiving the questions and the answers, but never actually posted the quotes. I still have the save and the version it works on, so I can try to do it again. (Future me here. I checked the Wiki, but appears that the secret lore is, in fact. Secret. So here it is the interactions with her. Surprisingly the exploit still works on recent versions, though it will crash after picking an option. probably because its an older save)
Pretty sure I've gotten the other two encounters on my current save so I won't be able to archive them in here.
And Yes. MC is completely oblivious to things looping and probably always will be. Talking from a meta standpoint Nunu has made it really REALLY clear about their opinions on consent (See Lin's comment about MC and Carla and that one scene of Sami and Alex that had to be rewritten multiple times) and I feel that MC doing the things he does knowing he can just loop back would make his actions too rapey.
LOL. I was pretty active back then and Lisa tends to make people ask around here about her puzzles, even though I answered them two comments before, sorry about that lol.
But answering your question. you don't "Give" the note to Lisa. Lisa takes it from you.
When opening the suitcase the game checks if you solved the code or if you have the Altered Note, Then she catches MC opening the suitcase and when asking "May I ask what you think you're doing?" you are given some options.
IF you DON't have the code, then you'll only get "Lin gave me permission" and "It's for a quest"
IF you HAVE the code then you'll be able to choose "I solved your puzzle" MC will take out the note and show it to her but with a twist. Turns out that what Cassidy said was true and it has a secret message inside.
After failing the quest in that loop you need to start a new one, but because of Looping shenanigans you now remember to alter the note. To do that you only have to grab the note, witness Lina's camera working and ask for Lina's help under the tree, all in the same loop, no need to go with the other girls. Then, you choose again "I solved your puzzle" and you'll give her the altered note.
Keep in mind that because of a bug on recent versions it is currently impossible to have the code (Since Haily hint gets skipped automatically) and by extension the option to give Lisa the note as an excuse. I recommend you to go to page 134 on this forum for the patch that Nunu dropped a few weeks ago that fixed Hailey.
In short: Get the note > talk to Cassidy about the note > Then talk to Alex about the note. > Then talk to Hailey under the tree about the note to get the code > Unlock the suitcase with the code > Use the Note as an excuse > Fail the quest. > New loop > Get the note > See Lina's camera working > Ask for Lina's help > Unlock the suitcase with the code > use the note as an excuse again > ??? > Profit
Well, Cassidy seems to "remember" somethings. Because even when i cheat to go back in time, she is like "did't we talk like this before?" and you can't talk to her again, she just skips the dialog.
And even thou i haven exactly explored her level 3, it's about exploring the island and what the f is going on around. With her cristals and the energy and all that stuff...
Like she remembers, and even in the next loop, the dialog changes a little the second time you start some conversations with her. And apparently she is next to get a new level, so maybe the MC will get some awareness, maybe not on the loops per se, but on their existance.
That now the game that was just a "3 days loop sort of harem" has a deeper history to it.
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Now, my problem with the code was that i didn't knew the code, it was an alien code to me, a code that i had to follow in-game clues to get and there was no other way to get them. The same with the other answer:
Well, Cassidy seems to "remember" somethings. Because even when i cheat to go back in time, she is like "did't we talk like this before?" and you can't talk to her again, she just skips the dialog.
And even thou i haven exactly explored her level 3, it's about exploring the island and what the f is going on around. With her cristals and the energy and all that stuff...
Like she remembers, and even in the next loop, the dialog changes a little the second time you start some conversations with her. And apparently she is next to get a new level, so maybe the MC will get some awareness, maybe not on the loops per se, but on their existance.
That now the game that was just a "3 days loop sort of harem" has a deeper history to it.
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Now, my problem with the code was that i didn't knew the code, it was an alien code to me, a code that i had to follow in-game clues to get and there was no other way to get them. The same with the other answer:
Honestly, I don't really know a whole lot about Cassidy. I stopped playing before she started to get content and right now I'm still catching up with the rest. But she's always been a special case. Probably top 3 on the "Resistance to looping" tierlist.
And don't worry about the Tunnel vision thingy. It happens to the best of us and Lisa in particular has some mean puzzles. Apparently Nunu has said that they are done by a friend/coworker who's a bit of a cryptographer nut so they are particularly difficult by design haha (Flashbacks to the spinoff "Lisa's Quest")
"Cabin By The Lake Time Cheat.rpyc" is not version specific and will work for current and future version of the game. *Unless Nunu312Decides To Remake The Game*, Updated to add extra time slot and for the Ren'py keymaping update.
"Cabin_By_The_Lake_Cheat_v2" Will need updating for new future dialogue content, but should still work just fine. You just won't be able to re-ask questions.
Cabin_By_The_Lake_Cheat_v3 Updated to add extra time slot for the game and added reset for the new contents.
Honestly, I don't really know a whole lot about Cassidy. I stopped playing before she started to get content and right now I'm still catching up with the rest. But she's always been a special case. Probably top 3 on the "Resistance to looping" tierlist.
And don't worry about the Tunnel vision thingy. It happens to the best of us and Lisa in particular has some mean puzzles. Apparently Nunu has said that they are done by a friend/coworker who's a bit of a cryptographer nut so they are particularly difficult by design haha (Flashbacks to the spinoff "Lisa's Quest")
I'm gonna wait a little, it seems like Cassidy it's gonna get a level 4 next update. the previous time i played she had her first level and only a few things on her second level. Now she has a third level that i haven't explored but i'm going to wait.
At least until Lisa gets a level 5(she is at 3) with Cassidy at level 4 or Cassidy gets a level 5 and Lisa a level 4.
With Lin at level SOMETHING. Because she was fine during most of the game. But progress with the rest of the girls is starting to leave her behind somehow... so she needs a "level 1" that is like the level 5 for the rest of them.
Basically, since the rest of the girls is full levels, with most of them pregnant, i'm going to wait until these 3 catch up, or at least get close to them because they are FAR behind.
hehe~ I've always enjoyed secret lore like this so I tend to create my own theories and try to archive everything about it, it really reminds me of peak Gravity falls in a way. (DELTARUNE 4 DAYS AGO BABY)
I remember archiving the questions and the answers, but never actually posted the quotes. I still have the save and the version it works on, so I can try to do it again. (Future me here. I checked the Wiki, but appears that the secret lore is, in fact. Secret. So here it is the interactions with her. Surprisingly the exploit still works on recent versions, though it will crash after picking an option. probably because its an older save)
Pretty sure I've gotten the other two encounters on my current save so I won't be able to archive them in here.
And Yes. MC is completely oblivious to things looping and probably always will be. Talking from a meta standpoint Nunu has made it really REALLY clear about their opinions on consent (See Lin's comment about MC and Carla and that one scene of Sami and Alex that had to be rewritten multiple times) and I feel that MC doing the things he does knowing he can just loop back would make his actions too rapey.
LOL. I was pretty active back then and Lisa tends to make people ask around here about her puzzles, even though I answered them two comments before, sorry about that lol.
But answering your question. you don't "Give" the note to Lisa. Lisa takes it from you.
When opening the suitcase the game checks if you solved the code or if you have the Altered Note, Then she catches MC opening the suitcase and when asking "May I ask what you think you're doing?" you are given some options.
IF you DON't have the code, then you'll only get "Lin gave me permission" and "It's for a quest"
IF you HAVE the code then you'll be able to choose "I solved your puzzle" MC will take out the note and show it to her but with a twist. Turns out that what Cassidy said was true and it has a secret message inside.
After failing the quest in that loop you need to start a new one, but because of Looping shenanigans you now remember to alter the note. To do that you only have to grab the note, witness Lina's camera working and ask for Lina's help under the tree, all in the same loop, no need to go with the other girls. Then, you choose again "I solved your puzzle" and you'll give her the altered note.
Keep in mind that because of a bug on recent versions it is currently impossible to have the code (Since Haily hint gets skipped automatically) and by extension the option to give Lisa the note as an excuse. I recommend you to go to page 134 on this forum for the patch that Nunu dropped a few weeks ago that fixed Hailey.
In short: Get the note > talk to Cassidy about the note > Then talk to Alex about the note. > Then talk to Hailey under the tree about the note to get the code > Unlock the suitcase with the code > Use the Note as an excuse > Fail the quest. > New loop > Get the note > See Lina's camera working > Ask for Lina's help > Unlock the suitcase with the code > use the note as an excuse again > ??? > Profit
Getting mentioned in the same breath as Gravity Falls might be one of the best compliments I've ever had. It's definitely one of the reasons the mysteries exist and I wish I had emphasized them more, but that hasn't been the reality of development.
Though, we're certainly getting some reveals in the most recent builds...
My cryptographer friend only actually made the creampies puzzle, I did the rest. I'm actually very fond of Lisa's riddle, though I do realise that you shouldn't have to solve them to make progress (hence being able to ask for answers for them), it's not that kind of game. Though I am constantly surprised about how many people don't actually get the creampies puzzle even after you can ask Carla for help... I realise I should probably make another step for it that just says the answer... but come on...
The one time questions haven't been much of a thing since those versions as they tend to be related to repeatable events (meetin alex in the forest etc), and instead I've been doing unique one time scenes.
hehe~ I've always enjoyed secret lore like this so I tend to create my own theories and try to archive everything about it, it really reminds me of peak Gravity falls in a way. (DELTARUNE 4 DAYS AGO BABY)
I remember archiving the questions and the answers, but never actually posted the quotes. I still have the save and the version it works on, so I can try to do it again. (Future me here. I checked the Wiki, but appears that the secret lore is, in fact. Secret. So here it is the interactions with her. Surprisingly the exploit still works on recent versions, though it will crash after picking an option. probably because its an older save)
Pretty sure I've gotten the other two encounters on my current save so I won't be able to archive them in here.
And Yes. MC is completely oblivious to things looping and probably always will be. Talking from a meta standpoint Nunu has made it really REALLY clear about their opinions on consent (See Lin's comment about MC and Carla and that one scene of Sami and Alex that had to be rewritten multiple times) and I feel that MC doing the things he does knowing he can just loop back would make his actions too rapey.
LOL. I was pretty active back then and Lisa tends to make people ask around here about her puzzles, even though I answered them two comments before, sorry about that lol.
But answering your question. you don't "Give" the note to Lisa. Lisa takes it from you.
When opening the suitcase the game checks if you solved the code or if you have the Altered Note, Then she catches MC opening the suitcase and when asking "May I ask what you think you're doing?" you are given some options.
IF you DON't have the code, then you'll only get "Lin gave me permission" and "It's for a quest"
IF you HAVE the code then you'll be able to choose "I solved your puzzle" MC will take out the note and show it to her but with a twist. Turns out that what Cassidy said was true and it has a secret message inside.
After failing the quest in that loop you need to start a new one, but because of Looping shenanigans you now remember to alter the note. To do that you only have to grab the note, witness Lina's camera working and ask for Lina's help under the tree, all in the same loop, no need to go with the other girls. Then, you choose again "I solved your puzzle" and you'll give her the altered note.
Keep in mind that because of a bug on recent versions it is currently impossible to have the code (Since Haily hint gets skipped automatically) and by extension the option to give Lisa the note as an excuse. I recommend you to go to page 134 on this forum for the patch that Nunu dropped a few weeks ago that fixed Hailey.
In short: Get the note > talk to Cassidy about the note > Then talk to Alex about the note. > Then talk to Hailey under the tree about the note to get the code > Unlock the suitcase with the code > Use the Note as an excuse > Fail the quest. > New loop > Get the note > See Lina's camera working > Ask for Lina's help > Unlock the suitcase with the code > use the note as an excuse again > ??? > Profit
I just looped until I got "The Beginning" achievement, and this is what she says then (you don't get dialogue choices) (leaving this here for me in the future):
Haley seems to remember the loops! But I think it's a case of her being too... how should I put this... dumb? Like, resetting her brain is like trying to crush a sponge flat. The moment you step away it's going to just repuff into its pervious shape, lol.
Haley seems to remember the loops! But I think it's a case of her being too... how should I put this... dumb? Like, resetting her brain is like trying to crush a sponge flat. The moment you step away it's going to just repuff into its pervious shape, lol.
Getting mentioned in the same breath as Gravity Falls might be one of the best compliments I've ever had. It's definitely one of the reasons the mysteries exist and I wish I had emphasized them more, but that hasn't been the reality of development.
Though, we're certainly getting some reveals in the most recent builds...
My cryptographer friend only actually made the creampies puzzle, I did the rest. I'm actually very fond of Lisa's riddle, though I do realise that you shouldn't have to solve them to make progress (hence being able to ask for answers for them), it's not that kind of game. Though I am constantly surprised about how many people don't actually get the creampies puzzle even after you can ask Carla for help... I realise I should probably make another step for it that just says the answer... but come on...
The one time questions haven't been much of a thing since those versions as they tend to be related to repeatable events (meetin alex in the forest etc), and instead I've been doing unique one time scenes.
I've said it previously but this is on my top 3 favorite VN. The mystery plot is obviously what hooks me more personally but i'm also a sucker for deep loving relationships and the way you write them makes my face hurt because i'm constantly smiling while reading them (Lina my beloved). I'll admit that while it is a shame the mystery plot sometimes needs to take a back seat to accommodate the "Meat" of the show, I personally think you struck a nice balance of leaving enough breadcrumbs to make it engaging <3
Haley seems to remember the loops! But I think it's a case of her being too... how should I put this... dumb? Like, resetting her brain is like trying to crush a sponge flat. The moment you step away it's going to just repuff into its pervious shape, lol.
Hailey is the definition of a High INT but Low Wisdom Character. Smart enough to deduce the answer to a Cypher by looking at it for a few seconds but dumb enough to not realise she's topless while searching for her top
Nooo angry Hailey? She might squish me with her boobles! Actually, that doesn't sound too bad.
Also, I just checked and if you have everyone available pregnant in the current go, your stats say 10 Pregnant. So that would be Sami, Carla, Lina, Alex, her five friends, and Haily. But in the movie date memory of pregnant Haily Bess is also pregnant. So Bess makes 11, if I'm counting right.
Sorry, my bias for Bess is showing. I know you said she can't ever come to the reunion, but you have to know how mysterious and that makes it!
I just looped until I got "The Beginning" achievement, and this is what she says then (you don't get dialogue choices) (leaving this here for me in the future):
Ok, so I kind of messed up and the "?" bubble interaction in the menu is the same as the questions. BUT there's a prelude before the questions that I didn't archive in my previous comment So I'll leave it here for you (For reference. It's the achievement "A Meeting")
"Cabin By The Lake Time Cheat.rpyc" is not version specific and will work for current and future version of the game. *Unless Nunu312Decides To Remake The Game*, Updated to add extra time slot and for the Ren'py keymaping update.
"Cabin_By_The_Lake_Cheat_v2" Will need updating for new future dialogue content, but should still work just fine. You just won't be able to re-ask questions.
Cabin_By_The_Lake_Cheat_v3 Updated to add extra time slot for the game and added reset for the new contents.
Am I the only one who finds it strange that there's no MILF tag, with the female characters' body shapes like that and they're all the main character's friends, it just seems absurd.
Am I the only one who finds it strange that there's no MILF tag, with the female characters' body shapes like that and they're all the main character's friends, it just seems absurd.
