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tenki_b

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you can't search for specific VNs by spoiler tags...only by the site tags... and thats the tags most people are referring to...
there is no f95 netori tag , yet... there will be in the future

for now ... cheating appliies best to netori.. and that's mostly used as replacement netori, until they introduce the new tags but ... who knows when that's going to be
I understood you! Thanks for the info.
 

MadLad Nomad

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Jul 16, 2020
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The netori type will evolve. There are several girl characters in the game, one of them is married, the other is dating a guy and there will be both Netori and Netorare.
I haven't touched the game yet, just seen it in new releases and checked this page out.

Here's a tip that hopefully helps in the future, it seems your new to making games and stuff and maybe a lot of your game features are still a work in progress but for the Tags and descriptions of the game please do try your best to be as clear and specific as you can.

For an example in the tags above the title it says Netorase and that lead me to Believe this is primarily an NTR/sharing game so I checked the Spoilers section to see if the tags there listed it as avoidable/optional and it's not exactly clear if anything id avoidable or optional or how things are going to be handled.

Regardless if you love or hate anything remotely similar to Natorare/Netorase, Sharing, Swinging, cuckold or some "she wasn't an LI at the time" stuff people get really upset or on the fence on both side...

So the more clear you can be about the more controversial stuff the less people you may have to deal with asking questions or sharing opinions...

Basically you wanted to advertise this game as accurately as possible for the specific audience you are treating and please for the love of god I really really don't recommend making a game where it's 50/50 Harem and NTR based on the route or something you pick, both sides will complain they are only playing half a game because only a small percentage of players will actually play and enjoy both routes.

Anyway good luck and hope you can clarify things in the games page for those who are probably going to want more information about your plans for the future if the game.
 

JenMistress

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So, decided to give this game a try, and interesting start, specially for a first game, quite impressed. Very interested in seeing what these twists are that you spoke of at the end. Totally be looking forward for more. Thank you so very much for this!!!
 
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tenki_b

Medical Special Care Dev
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I haven't touched the game yet, just seen it in new releases and checked this page out.

Here's a tip that hopefully helps in the future, it seems your new to making games and stuff and maybe a lot of your game features are still a work in progress but for the Tags and descriptions of the game please do try your best to be as clear and specific as you can.

For an example in the tags above the title it says Netorase and that lead me to Believe this is primarily an NTR/sharing game so I checked the Spoilers section to see if the tags there listed it as avoidable/optional and it's not exactly clear if anything id avoidable or optional or how things are going to be handled.

Regardless if you love or hate anything remotely similar to Natorare/Netorase, Sharing, Swinging, cuckold or some "she wasn't an LI at the time" stuff people get really upset or on the fence on both side...

So the more clear you can be about the more controversial stuff the less people you may have to deal with asking questions or sharing opinions...

Basically you wanted to advertise this game as accurately as possible for the specific audience you are treating and please for the love of god I really really don't recommend making a game where it's 50/50 Harem and NTR based on the route or something you pick, both sides will complain they are only playing half a game because only a small percentage of players will actually play and enjoy both routes.

Anyway good luck and hope you can clarify things in the games page for those who are probably going to want more information about your plans for the future if the game.
Yes, you're right. This is my first game as a developer. I got confused with the tags and already understand how important they are. I won't make the game 50/50 with NTR or without it. Right now, I've created a ticket to figure out which tag exactly suits the game.
 

tenki_b

Medical Special Care Dev
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Sep 25, 2023
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So, decided to give this game a try, and interesting start, specially for a first game, quite impressed. Very interested in seeing what these twists are that you spoke of at the end. Totally be looking forward for more. Thank you so very much for this!!!
Thank you for the feedback. The next version of the game will be available to the public quite soon!
 
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tenki_b

Medical Special Care Dev
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For general understanding: Currently, there is NO NTR (Netorare) content in the game. In future versions, Netori content is planned (there won't be moments of harsh sexual betrayal and moral infidelity). Spicy situations will exist, and this is already clear in this version of the game. For now, I cannot achieve the removal of the tag, so I'm explaining the situation.
 

marvelfreak3000

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Netori my favorite part of NTR, the main tags I look for in a game and determines if I play it or not is MILF, Incest, Cheating aka Netori and Optional NTR. One game I played and it bothered me that the developer added incest into the game BUT with only the sister and not the mother. Now if you are going to add incest into a game either do all of it or none of it dont just do half of it, now IF the dev had written that the parents or mother died or the mother just wasnt in their lives period that is different BUT to have it written that both the sister and mother are in the MC's life and both alive and have incest with one of them and not the other to me is just not right. It would be the same way if you add the Aunt and cousin but dont add incest for the cousin but just the Aunt. Either all or nothing when it comes to incest.
 

tenki_b

Medical Special Care Dev
Game Developer
Sep 25, 2023
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Netori my favorite part of NTR, the main tags I look for in a game and determines if I play it or not is MILF, Incest, Cheating aka Netori and Optional NTR. One game I played and it bothered me that the developer added incest into the game BUT with only the sister and not the mother. Now if you are going to add incest into a game either do all of it or none of it dont just do half of it, now IF the dev had written that the parents or mother died or the mother just wasnt in their lives period that is different BUT to have it written that both the sister and mother are in the MC's life and both alive and have incest with one of them and not the other to me is just not right. It would be the same way if you add the Aunt and cousin but dont add incest for the cousin but just the Aunt. Either all or nothing when it comes to incest.
There is no incest in the game yet. But when I get to this genre, it will be fully embodied.
 

Richard Fappington

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To some it's enough that it's there. Including me.

However, if that's what YOU want to do, do it. But only if YOU want to do it.

In my experience, if it's not your main tag, adding it is always trouble. Then it turns your fans into two different camps of people asking for more or less content. So if you are planning on adding Netori as a more main tag, then the other one is a bit of a waste.

Either way, I wish you a good day and development!
Some great sentiments here.

tenki_b be careful about trying to please everyone. It's an impossible task and likely to lead you down a rabbit hole you can't get out of, which so often ends in an "abandoned" prefix.

Stick to your guns where you feel the need and preserve that drive to keep making something you're proud of and enjoy.
 

tenki_b

Medical Special Care Dev
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Sep 25, 2023
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Some great sentiments here.

tenki_b be careful about trying to please everyone. It's an impossible task and likely to lead you down a rabbit hole you can't get out of, which so often ends in an "abandoned" prefix.

Stick to your guns where you feel the need and preserve that drive to keep making something you're proud of and enjoy.
Thanks for the advice, I'll do that!
 

tenki_b

Medical Special Care Dev
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Sep 25, 2023
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MadLad Nomad

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Yes, you're right. This is my first game as a developer. I got confused with the tags and already understand how important they are. I won't make the game 50/50 with NTR or without it. Right now, I've created a ticket to figure out which tag exactly suits the game.
I might be Biased here because I prefer no NTR/Sharing of any kind (girl on girl is okay)

But yeah i think games without NTR/Sharing and such I think make more money for the developers assuming the games got decent writing and characters and looks good and such and harem games even more so.

Here is my reasoning for that.

As someone myself who doesn't like NTR, Sharing, cuckolding, swinging or any girl that you can or will fuck eventually ever being seen with other men, doesn't matter if she was a LI at the time or not.

Anyway the reason is because those who enjoy NTR and sharing and similar tags... They likely can enjoy most other games that have no NTR. I'm not a fan of Anal in games but It doesn't bother me, I just select Pussy if that's an option but if not oh well anal sex here we go..

But someone who dislikes something NTR and sharing... Well it's not a simple kink like Anal... NTR in my opinion is less of a Link and more like a lifestyle choice or a crucial trait in your life because your either for or against it. NTR in a game can make or break a romance or characters and opinions and such... A Love interest asking you for anal or another Kink that doesn't involve other penises isn't really bad. It's stuff we can look past but NTR effects NTR haters more emotionally I think because we are more inclined to develop feelings for said characters. I don't mean that in a weird way but we begin to like them and someone who loves NTR probably doesn't give to shit for the characters as a whole and just want to watch a nasty gangbang, the nasty the better I imagine is their opinion.


So I am not expert or statistic keeper or anything but I think there are more males in the earth playing porn games who rather have a harem instead of sharing any girls but those who enjoy sharing girls which is likely a smaller population of players can and will likely enjoy your game without NTR...

TLDR
NTR = only NTR lover play
No NTR = both NTT lovers/haters play
Admittedly there are some players who won't even play if NTR is 100% optional and can be avoided.

For an example likes say Landlady if about to be Raped and sexually assaulted by some creep in an alley at night, normally you have the option to run towards the situation and best up the creep or you can sit there jerking it off watching landlady get sexually abused... Some say it's rape so it's not NTR but most NTR haters call a rape situation in game NTR anyway because it gives us the same negative emotions or feelings as regularly girls cheating willingly or if the MC gives permission for sex acts NTR haters still see it as NTR.


Anyway to the point even if it's fully optional like that where there are 2 paths with 2 different scenarios playing out some may still not play but those players I think are an even smaller number than NTR lovers so you will still get a lot of players playing if there are 1 or 2 optional NTR scenes in the game so long as they are fully optional and the optional to saying yes or now has different scenes play out... We NTR haters really like to see some obvious shit like you and girlfriend walking away from the optional NTR male... We really hate screens that fade to black and pretend like we're drunk and don't remember anything. Don't leave any ambiguities
 

tenki_b

Medical Special Care Dev
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Sep 25, 2023
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I might be Biased here because I prefer no NTR/Sharing of any kind (girl on girl is okay)

But yeah i think games without NTR/Sharing and such I think make more money for the developers assuming the games got decent writing and characters and looks good and such and harem games even more so.

Here is my reasoning for that.

As someone myself who doesn't like NTR, Sharing, cuckolding, swinging or any girl that you can or will fuck eventually ever being seen with other men, doesn't matter if she was a LI at the time or not.

Anyway the reason is because those who enjoy NTR and sharing and similar tags... They likely can enjoy most other games that have no NTR. I'm not a fan of Anal in games but It doesn't bother me, I just select Pussy if that's an option but if not oh well anal sex here we go..

But someone who dislikes something NTR and sharing... Well it's not a simple kink like Anal... NTR in my opinion is less of a Link and more like a lifestyle choice or a crucial trait in your life because your either for or against it. NTR in a game can make or break a romance or characters and opinions and such... A Love interest asking you for anal or another Kink that doesn't involve other penises isn't really bad. It's stuff we can look past but NTR effects NTR haters more emotionally I think because we are more inclined to develop feelings for said characters. I don't mean that in a weird way but we begin to like them and someone who loves NTR probably doesn't give to shit for the characters as a whole and just want to watch a nasty gangbang, the nasty the better I imagine is their opinion.


So I am not expert or statistic keeper or anything but I think there are more males in the earth playing porn games who rather have a harem instead of sharing any girls but those who enjoy sharing girls which is likely a smaller population of players can and will likely enjoy your game without NTR...

TLDR
NTR = only NTR lover play
No NTR = both NTT lovers/haters play
Admittedly there are some players who won't even play if NTR is 100% optional and can be avoided.

For an example likes say Landlady if about to be Raped and sexually assaulted by some creep in an alley at night, normally you have the option to run towards the situation and best up the creep or you can sit there jerking it off watching landlady get sexually abused... Some say it's rape so it's not NTR but most NTR haters call a rape situation in game NTR anyway because it gives us the same negative emotions or feelings as regularly girls cheating willingly or if the MC gives permission for sex acts NTR haters still see it as NTR.


Anyway to the point even if it's fully optional like that where there are 2 paths with 2 different scenarios playing out some may still not play but those players I think are an even smaller number than NTR lovers so you will still get a lot of players playing if there are 1 or 2 optional NTR scenes in the game so long as they are fully optional and the optional to saying yes or now has different scenes play out... We NTR haters really like to see some obvious shit like you and girlfriend walking away from the optional NTR male... We really hate screens that fade to black and pretend like we're drunk and don't remember anything. Don't leave any ambiguities
This is good thinking. I also delved into this issue and realized that if we were already making NTR, then it would be better to make a separate game based on it. In this game, the main idea is that the main character conquers female characters (who initially don’t care much about him) and eventually this will lead to a "harem".